Talk:Secret Chiefs
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Wow. This article needs alot of work. Zos 16:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Once I get mroe info on this, I'm deleting most of the intro to this article. Its long and rather confusing. Zos 16:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Egads, the secret chiefs again! It might be worth referencing the article written by Agehananda Bharati that is directly related to this subject. [[1]] If I can find the time I will chime in as well. Chai Walla 08:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not adding web site sources. Zos 14:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'll get around to editing the article. Agehananda Bharati was a respected author and scholar. The small article I referenced, can be found on the web for easy viewing. The article was originally published in The Bulletin of the Tibet Society, an academic journal in 1974. The views expressed in the article are quite sound, and an academic journal is usually considered a fine source.-Chai Walla 18:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Then you might want to cite the actual journal. Zos 19:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'd second that. Citing "Wilson 1987 page 48" isn't going to help anyone. See {{cite journal}} for advice-- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Then you might want to cite the actual journal. Zos 19:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'll get around to editing the article. Agehananda Bharati was a respected author and scholar. The small article I referenced, can be found on the web for easy viewing. The article was originally published in The Bulletin of the Tibet Society, an academic journal in 1974. The views expressed in the article are quite sound, and an academic journal is usually considered a fine source.-Chai Walla 18:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Awaiting sources
Yemaya, please see WP:CITE. A source must be cited for all added information. I've removed your additions and placed them below until you can supply citations for the information as required by Wikipedia policy.
- However, the Golden Dawn is not supposed to be a specific order fixed in space or time, but to represent the outer ring of those who seek to become Initiates. The Golden Dawn, represents the end of process of Initiation itself, in which the Secret Chiefs are supposed to make themselves known to the would-be adept.
- Conceptually, the Secret Chiefs are ascended masters which have surpassed the great Abyss related to the Daath sephira, and form the inner ring not just of the Golden Dawn order but of any group involved in the Initiation process. They are supposed to make themselves known through methods such like posession, inspiration or massive synchronicity, a process which has been described in different cultures; as the descent to the Underworld/Hell, as Chapel Perilous in the work of Robert Anton Wilson, or as the attainment of the Knowledge and Conversation of the HGA in the Golden Dawn.
- Therefore, we have three concentric rings in the order; one composed by the Secret Chiefs, the next Inner Ring to which the Adepts -those which have been initiated- belong, and the Outer Ring of those which seek to be initiated.
