User talk:Seaworldpunk

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[edit] Headings and quote marks

Hi, I noticed you've been fixing a lot of album articles. Thought you should know that standard Wikipedia style is to use lower case for words in headings apart from the first word, and proper nouns etc., also be aware of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums which has a number of useful standards to work to. Keep up the good work, Regards, Rich Farmbrough 20:10 4 August 2006 (GMT).

[edit] You deserve this...

I hereby award this barnstar for such great in the field of hardcore punk! Cheers! Bubba hotep 22:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I hereby award this barnstar for such great in the field of hardcore punk! Cheers! Bubba hotep 22:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Good work. Keep it up. And to think it only came to my attention because you edited one of my first articles, no matter how small the edit was! Cheers Bubba hotep 22:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Dunno if you saw, but I changed my mind about this. Sorry for the false alarm.—Chowbok ☠ 03:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up the Vandals page. I hope you like the facts I was able to supply about Escalante. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fretlisa (talk • contribs) 20:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Escalante

Thanks for your dedication to Wikipedia. I used to work for Kung Fu Records and I've spoken with a lot of people involved with the Vandals over the years. I thought you might remove some of that stuff I posted but it's all true and hopefully it can be referenced and verified to help the page be more fair and accurate. Simple things like where he was born and grew up, etc.

What you need to know is that Joe is the victim of an extortion attempt that L.A.P.D. and l.a. county D.A.'s office are both investigating. This is public record but be careful of negative material about him because a lot of it is planted by the people that were not happy with how the case was settled, and chose to extort money out of Joe if he pay money to Jan Sakert, Steve Pfauter, Steve Jensen's estate, and Chalmer Lumary. He called the police instead, and the extortionists have been poisoning his reputation on the internet ever since. So Wikipedia is one of their main tools to make him look maniacal so they can justify their legal case they tried to ruin him with. It was so much crap and lies and greed it was sad.

It's possible that devoting so much space to accusations from people he was in a band with 20 years ago for a couple years, is biased considering what they are trying to do to him. The fact that this stuff is repeated in two sections on this page is extremely misleading and makes this guys life look like it's all about what disgruntled ex band mates that sued him want to get across. He's never plagerized anything and this page makes him look like he's under a cloud. Not very useful, and not very fair.

the credit on the 1993 version of their first recordings says "all songs written by Joe Escalante" it doesn't say words and music by Joe Escalante. You should look at it. What does it mean? A court determined there was a deal for ownership when the current band allowed Jensen and Ackerman to perform under the name, 14 years later they thought they could make some money by suing him. He settled with them. What was the terms of the settlement? We don't know. I can appreciate your attempts to tell both sides but be careful you don't do people's enemies work for them by putting clouds over people.

actually, I don't think this stuff should even be here, it should be in the vandals page if people want to see it. You have put it here which makes Joe look like his life is embattled. These people sued all the Vandals, not just joe.

Jan had a few singers before Stevo. Why say that Steve Jensen founded the band if it's not true? Where is your evidence that Stevo founded this band? Everything I've been able to find says he was third or fourth singer depending on who's memory you accept.

It doesn't matter but why is one version in here?It's deceiving. It's designed to make Joe look like he stole someone's punk band. What about the bass players like Steve Gonzales or Steve Soto that were in the early version of the band. According to Joe, it was Jan's band, he and Steve Gonzales started it and went through a few singers and drummers before they settled on Stevo then Joe on drums. Then Gonzalez quit because he hated Stevo. Then Steve Soto came in, then Steve Pfauter. Steve P ended up quitting the band because he also had problems with Steve which stemmed from what he eventually died of, drug abuse. This is documented. Why doesn't anyone mention it? Why so interested in plagerism that we know didn't occur because that was the only thing that has been fully established by the court.

Jan Sakert works for the D.A.'s office and is probably very easy to get ahold of to verify this. Joe himself is easy to get a hold of as are any of the current vandals, joe@vandals.com, etc. I have corresponded with them myself.

Joe was born in Long Beach, he grew up in Rossmoor, and is 1/2 Mexican 1/2 Irish. He doesn't take bullfighting lessons. He trains and fights regularly though.

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You're doing a great job. I will provide some referenced info when I can. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fretlisa (talk • contribs) 19:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

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