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[edit] Thanks for the invite/article integrity

Hey thanks for the invite to WikiProject Military history! Most definitely interested in helping out where and when I can. I saw how badly the USS Simpson article was mangled, and decided to be bold. Looks like the person making the edits is unwilling or unable to play well with others.

Anyway, let me know if I can be of service in a particular area... I'm not the most experienced Wikipedian, but I will try!

BTW I'm a huge MSTie as well...

Supersquid 15:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Put the article back to where I had it. Spent days working on it, only to it destroyed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.204.215.147 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helpme

Hi, how can we help you? You can ask your question here and place to the {{helpme}} template at the end so we know to check back.--Commander Keane 21:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm having trouble figuring out a infobox I'm trying to make for one of my articles. I want to include an overall title (bold) on top of the subcategories (also bold), but my title keeps sticking to the left side and creating two extra empty boxes on its right that I don't want. Plus, why is it attaching to the end of the article when I want it within a particular category?
Also, how do I keep border=4 while also making the title and/or subtitles grey? I tried looking for the answers in help, but it's a tad overwhelming. Thanks much for your help. ScreaminEagle 21:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Mmm, it would really help if you can give us the example you are working on. In an infobox, heading (eg = = ='s) are not used. Instead you just make the text bold and larger, as done in Template:Infobox Film.--Commander Keane 22:03, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Then maybe it's not an infobox if that's what it has to look like. I'm working with the something-box pictured at the bottom here.
Commanding Officers of the JFHQ-NCR
Commander Deputy Commander Dates
Maj. Gen. Guy C. Swan III Rear Adm. Terence E. McKnight 2005 - Present
Maj. Gen. Galen B. Jackman Rear Adm. Jan Cody Gaudio 2004 - 2005
I want it in the middle of the article under "Organization (of the Agency)," not at the end of the article (where it's migrated for some reason) because it will appear somewhat random. Also, I'm trying to specify the box as "Commanding Officers of the JFHQ-NCR" since I will be going into detail about different aspects of the organization of the agency in relation to other agencies, etc., as well. Also, can I make the title and subtitles grey or should I just leave them be? ScreaminEagle 22:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that's just a table (Help:Table). It has been migrating to the bottom of the page because it needs to have |} at the end. I have added that on your example above. Also, which article is this for? When I know the article I will take another look. I'm still a little unclear on what the grey heading questions was about.--Commander Keane 22:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I have edited the above example above, to simplify it a bit. There are lots of different ways to do tables, so use whatever way you like.--Commander Keane 22:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
A-ha, that makes more sense. The article in question is Joint Force Headquarters National Capital Region. It's still in its infancy obviously, and I'm trying to finish one section at a time.
As for grey heading, I wanted the boxes that say "Commander," "Deputy Commander," and "Dates" to be a different color (preferrably grey) than the entries below them (or is that overkill with the bold, too?).
(new edit) Also, I like that everything was centered before--looks a little odd to me now, or at least the dates do. Thanks for the new example, though. ScreaminEagle 22:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok I've made some changes. You can choose any color from List of colors, and adjust the table in lots of different ways.--Commander Keane 23:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

This is what I'll stick with I think. Thank you for all your assistance! ScreaminEagle 23:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Commanding Officers of the JFHQ-NCR
Commander Deputy Commander Dates
Maj. Gen. Guy C. Swan III, USA Rear Adm. Terence E. McKnight, USN 2005 - Present
Maj. Gen. Galen B. Jackman, USA Rear Adm. Jan Cody Gaudio, USN 2004 - 2005

[edit] Categories' sorting

Hi there, You've been changing the category sorting of several articles, but you don't consider that some people have 2 last names. For instance, Sergio Galván Rey and Guillermo Barros Schelotto were correctly sorted as Galvan Rey, Sergio and Barros Schelotto, Guillermo, but you changed that sorting to their second last name (Rey and Schelotto). Since they make use of both last names, and the first one is the father's lastname (that's the costum in Spanish speaking countries), everyone would go to search them at the letter of their first last name. I'm reverting your changes in this two articles, and any other in my whatchlist. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 10:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Army Combat Uniform

I don't know what happened-- the change I made certainly doesn't match my edit summary. I have put it back the way it was. Sorry about that! -- Mwanner | Talk 22:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You wrote: "That's strange that it would do that." I've seen other weird stuff happen once in a while, but it's also completely possible that I screwed up somehow. I had spent a lot of time reverting vandalism and spam using multiple sessions, and it can get you crazy when it comes in too fast. Either way, alls well that ends... -- Mwanner | Talk 02:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I figured it out-- it was me. I was reverting spam by User:24.185.9.190, checking all his edits, and I hit an edit he'd made to Army Combat Uniform where he added a wikilink to Galaxy Army Navy Store, which I knew had been deleted. What I should have done at that point is go to the current version of the article and edit out the Galaxy link. Instead, I just called up the edit before his and reverted to it, thus blowing away all later edits, including yours-- case closed, my bad. So, sorry, I guess I need to be more careful. Anyway, at least it makes sense. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 02:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: JFHQ-NCR

It's got a "History" section in the article, doesn't it? ;-)

More generally, we tend to wind up dealing with anything that's even vaguely military-related, since there's really nobody else working in this area. Kirill Lokshin 20:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the Military history WikiProject!

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[edit] Pershing Rifles edits

Per the Pershing Rifles page, I am wondering why you delinked the years. I was under the impression that we were to link years just as we link to other articles. This, because the year in which something happened, put in the context of other events that happened the same year or date in history, gives the reader a better idea of what was going on in the world at the same time of the event in question.

Also, you changed "the Ohio State group" to "the Ohio group." The group spoken of is not just from the State of Ohio, but rather Ohio State University (mentioned at the beginning of the paragraph). To avoid confusion, I'm going to change that back with clarification added. Thanks. ScreaminEagle 20:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I delinked standalone years as (as best I can tell) there's been a quasi-consensus that years only should be linked if there's a day and month to go along with it. For a MUCH more in-depth discussion of that particular debate, wander over to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers).
As for the Ohio edit, I just made an arbitary decision as to which way to go with that. Therefore, I assure you that my feelings aren't horribly hurt if you've changed and clarified it. :-) – Swid (talk | edits) 20:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Galen B. Jackman

The infobox should be for the more prominent/notable awards - you don't need to relist everything in the article. As far as the list of awards, there is really no set policy. Common sense should prevail. My personal opinion is that marksmanship badges should be left off (everyone in the army and marines has one), as well as AAMs and ARCOMS. MSMs are debatable - it's still a fairly low level awards, at least in terms of what most notable military people will have. I think all valor awards are worthy of inclusion. Unit citations I think are pointless for listing for individuals, but for ships and units are fine. And badges in general are all fairly important enough to list (except for Air Force occupation badges - like marksmanship badges in the army, in the air force pretty much everyone has one, if I'm not mistaken). Once again, though, this is my own opinion, and what guides me when listing awards. Others on the military history task force might feel differently.--Nobunaga24 02:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Atomic bombings of Japan

No problem. We've been trying various wordings for the importance levels over the past few days, so I wasn't sure if this was some difference of interpretation that was cropping up ;-) Kirill Lokshin 23:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Copyediting

Stopping at once. Please copyedit :) Thanks! -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 20:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the great copyedit!!! :)
Some more people will certainly review it, but I guess the article is moving in the right direction.
Btw, if you could support it at the FAC, it would be great too... :)
Thanks again, -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 22:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
You're absolutely right, it's that. Thanks again! -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 22:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Vandalproof edits

Hi ScreamingEagle, I always try to assume good faith. The majority of the time, when I see a redlink on a date page, I revert it using Vandalproof if and only if it appears to be nonsense (i.e. 1989 - Ashley, the queen of the world and that type of stuff). These are the only cases when I leave any sort of warning (t1, unless they have recently vandalized or repeatedly vandalized that page or another Wikicalendar page) on the user's talk page. If the user keeps adding the same entry, I clarify on their talk page that all entries must have Wikipages, and that to have a Wikipage a person must be notable by Wikipedia's definition, etc. If the edit is a no-link, I search for that name or simple variations it, and I revert it, usually manually, if I cannot find it. If the edit is a redlink but does not seem like a vanity/silly edit, I manually remove it and may note on the user's talk page (if it was the most recent edit to the page) that he or she might want to create a page for that person if the person meets notability requirements and then add the person's name to the page. Over the last few months, I have reverted hundreds, if not thousands, of additions to date pages, as I am actively involved in the Wikicalendar project, so it's inevitable that sometimes I mess up. I will look at the edit you noted and see if further action on my part needs to be taken. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Fabricationary 21:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Allow me

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For helping me with the copyedit of Aleksandr Vasilevsky, this RAK Star for you! :) Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 23:31, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Commas

Ah, don't worry about it; I'm not the least bit offended. You're probably right as far as the placement is concerned. (The reason I wasn't sure is because words-as-words can also be italicized, in which case there wouldn't be any quote marks to deal with; I was wondering if there might be some exception to the general rule related to that.) In any case, I've usually found that it's easier to simply reword the offending text rather than worrying about these things. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 05:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes

Do you mean to move the code directly onto your user page? All you have to do is write "subst" at the beginning of the userboxes you want to save. So, for instance, for {{User USA}}, go in and write {{subst:User USA}}. When you save the page, it will put the code directly onto your user page. If you have a lot of userboxes, the easiest way to do it is to copy the contents of your user page into a textpad, do a search for "{{" and replace it with "{{subst:". Hope that helps, JDoorjam Talk 22:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The USS Simpson - the greatest, most important warship ever

I see you are taking on David Jason Silver, amateur wrestler extrordinaire, super-duper Balkan War veteran (who never left his ship while monitoring a peace treaty, so how he is a veteran of a land war I have no idea). Be prepared for tons of frustration - he is absolutely oblivious to any suggestion you make to him. He is living in a fantasy world where his naval service (2 years apparently) was the most important thing that ever happened in the history of the United States Navy. He has made a mess of articles by not ever using the preview button - he literally (I counted) had over 100 edits in a row on the USS Simpson article. Every time he changes the location of a comma, he hits "save page." He has made a mess of every article he has touched. For a good laugh, visit his "blog" [1]. I honestly (and this is not a personal attack) think he has mental issues.--Nobunaga24 23:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

He got himself banned yesterday after vandalizing my user page about 3 times. But Only for 24 hours (ToT)--Nobunaga24 22:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV tag

I'd appreciate your thoughts here. --uriah923(talk) 22:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm seeking copyedit help once again...

Hi,

Sorry to abuse your kindness, but can you please take a few minutes to copyedit the Battle of Moscow article??? According to Kirill's review, there are grammar problems but no significant style problems, so it can't be as bad as the previous nom... :) Since you helped me with Aleksandr Vasilevsky, I thought I could beg for some more help :P

Thanks in advance,

Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 18:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, and thanks for your copyedit!!! And really there is no problems with inline comments. Indeed, those were very helpful to me :) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 09:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You have to many question in the battle of moscow

Read Eastern Front (World War II) and it will answer some of your questions. The axis that attacked the Soviets were the germans the italians the hungarians, the romanians and many volunteers from several european countries in different waffen ss divisions. Ironplay 03:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Commander Lists

Hmm, not sure what the best thing would be. For major positions, using succession boxes directly on the articles might be worthwhile. There's nothing wrong with long lists, though, provided the topic warrants them; see, for example, List of Doges of Venice. Kirill Lokshin 17:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Doing both might work. The only drawback would be that if it turned out the list wasn't useful after the fact, you'll have wasted the time it took to create it, so whether you want to do that is a choice you're in a better position to make. Kirill Lokshin 18:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] 101rst?

Just curious as an old nam vet, whether or not your handle means you served with the 101rst. My son is with them now in Bagdad. Take care, old windy bear 22:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] salutes and acts of aggression and other happy things...

I think you said it best - "What the...?" Not sure what that means. As they say here, zen zen wakarimasen...--Nobunaga24 01:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Vasilevsky image

You're right, I messed the description up. I changed it to a left-to-right order. Thanks for pointing it out! :) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 20:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smith pic

No problems here. I can see the pic.--Nobunaga24 23:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Star on the ribbon

Thanks for the note. It did look like a star; with your note, that makes 4 out of 4 who see it as a star. I feel comfortable that there is a second award; it would be nice to be able to find out when and for what actions he received the second Silver Star. — ERcheck (talk) 23:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Single Words in Quotes

Ah, thanks for finding that! :-) Kirill Lokshin 16:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Sandbox edits

Don't worry about it. I do not mind people intruding in my sandbox to fix dead links and correct my gawd-awful spelling grammar. The disclamer at the top is more to warn people that I do not want them conducting any large scale edits that would otherwise compromise the material on the page. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 199 LIB

The reference was to the 3rd Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard). Today the battalion would be referred to as "2-3 Infantry Battalion", but during the CARS era it was referred to as the "2nd of the 3rd Inf" or just plain "two-three". It's only a presumption, but the Army possibly wanted a campaign streamer for the regiment for that conflict--as you can tell, there was no rhyme, reason, or tradition in assigning manuever battalions to the separate brigades constituted for Vietnam. I know it's popular nowadays to call an infantry division "the 3rd Infantry" but the word "infantry" has always referred to regiment and never division. (I'm old-fashioned in that regard, I guess, because to me an infantry division does not need that adjective--it's the "3rd Division"). Anyway, it was the regiment. Thanx for asking. --Buckboard 07:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] military brat

Thanks Screaming for your assistance with this article. Grammar and spelling are my weaknesses... so I really appreciate your proofreading the article.Balloonman 20:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all of the work and help on the Military Brat article. Balloonman 06:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for all of the work and help on the Military Brat article. Balloonman 06:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Schloesser

Go to the Fort Campbell webpage, click on the Division tab towards the top, then look around on the left side of the screen for the "Commanding General" link. Click on that and the website will first take you the Thomas R. Turner II page, but then suddenly redirects to a new one with Schloesser's biography and such, stating him as CG. The URL is still listed for Turner, but it's Schloesser. Besides, I know the Schloessers.--SOCL 02:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I am in total agreement with keeping the picture and Ryan, General Schloesser, and Colonel Schloesser in the article--indeed, it serves its importance in historical terms. I also agree with making an infobox with General Schloesser's picture for his biographical article. Sadly, I'm not very good at Wikipedia editing and such...well, at least, I normally take guesses at what I'm doing based on other articles until I get it to look right, or someone else comes along and fixes it. And thanks for the Change of Command newspaper article! I had been looking for it, but couldn't find it anywhere!--SOCL 19:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
No worries about the rant. The same thing with the picture happened to me, but I managed to crop the picture out and fix it up so that now it's good--check the article: I added the infobox with picture. Let me know what you think. I also updated the 101st article. Do you think it would be pertinent to place the Change of Command photo in the 101st article? Perhaps in the subsection of the commanders, just as one example of the numerous changes of command at Fort Campbell. In any event, I couldn't tell you about most of his combat and other experiences, mostly due to the nature of the matters. That's not to say I don't know, but I'm really not at liberty to talk about much of it since...well, it's the nature of working with the SOAR...--SOCL 20:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and added the 2006 Change of Command image from The Leaf Chronicle to the 101st article. Thanks for the help!--SOCL 21:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commas and periods

I thought that in Commonwealth English the periods go outside of the quotation marks? Not relevant to this particular article (Military Brat), which should be and is written in American English, but it may not be a hard and fast rule for other than American English--and it can be problematic when editors partially correct an article that has been written in one dialect. This article does need some good copyedit work, though. KP Botany 21:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

If it is part Commonwealth/part American English, please take the time to make certain the article conforms entirely to American English--I'd like this article to be really good. I did not notice that, but am also doing a major comment/edit on the Sei Whale article which is written in Commonwealth English. KP Botany 21:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I thought you were saying it was a mix of both with this comment, "and given that this article had a mixture of both," on my talk page. I was horrified that I didn't catch that. Yeah, yeah, the major author missed quite a few grammatical niceties, but put together a much better article, in spite of that, than a lot of the FAC I've read lately. Any day give me someone who put the effort into the content, readability, and logical flow, and missed some grammar points that others can clean up. KP Botany 21:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Can't help but comment here... this kind of made my day ;-) And since my mastery over the English gramer an spellin isn't that great (despite being my native tongue) I appreciate the effort that BOTH of you are putting into this article to get it over that final hump.Balloonman 22:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colorado

Screamin, do you live in CO right now? If so, what part? I'm in Denver in the Park Hill neighborhood (I-70 and CO.)Balloonman 22:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linguistic Reclamation

So Screamin, what did you think of the new section on research and the acceptance of the term brat?Balloonman 23:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Loved it. Loved, loved it. Great job. Again, didn't think there'd be enough to make a whole section out of that, but you did it, and good job! It explains a lot and it was very much needed I think.
Hey, have you ever seen the Denver City and County Building lit up at Christmas? If not, go see it. And then take a picture of it for me. ;) --ScreaminEagle 00:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I'll try to remember next week... I work in LoDo...Balloonman 01:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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