Talk:Scrooge McDuck

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To-do list for Scrooge McDuck:

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  • lots more references w/ inline citations needed
  • images need fair use rationales and sources.
  • red links
  • any infomation on whom the character was based on?
  • has the creator commented on what he thinks of this character and where the character has gone since creation?
  • has Scrooge's drawn appearance change over the years?
  • Is Carl Barks the only man to ever draw scrooge or has the films, comics and shows featuring him had their own artist?
  • who handles the character development? were the creators of each show/movie/comic given a free choice of taking character development anywhere they wanted?
  • how are the rights of the character handled. Is disney the sole owner of the character and all films and movies of their production? if not, how is giving the rights handled?
  • any criticism of this character, like him not wearing any pants? Wasn't he banned for that in some country or was that Duffy Duck?
  • A Carl Barks picture is "fair use"? The image isn't dated, no provenance or context is given for it, thus none of the article's commentary on Scrooge's changing appearance and personality relates to it. Moreover, the article is appropriately encyclopedic, which means it does not exactly discuss Bark's work "critically".
  • The "External links" used as references need to be called out into their own section,
  • the lead is a bit short.
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Where should we add that he speaks with a Scottish accent?--Sonjaaa 21:57, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

At least according to the DuckTales series... 81.232.72.148 23:45, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually the Scottish accent is mentioned in the comic books as well. In the "The Swamp of No Return" by Carl Barks, first published in May, 1965, Scrooge is brain-washed into a new identity. He considers himself to be Spanish. Donald Duck still recognizes his Scottish accent. User:Dimadick

True, I remember that, now... 81.232.72.148 23:45, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] What?

4.19.78.126 removed all these Spirit of 43 comments? Someone thought Scrooge was that Scotsman there. Can we get a confirmation of what?

[edit] scrooge's languages

Where we could list languages Scrooge can speak? Arabic, Spanish, Dutch, German, Catalan and Finnish, for example.

According to Barks and Rosa stories, or what? Don't forget Chinese (Old Cathay?) in Barks' Tralla La story. 惑乱 分からん 12:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't remember Scrooge being fluent in Finnish. In the Don Rosa story where the Ducks were in Finland, it was never said the ducks spoke Finnish. At least in the Finnish version of the story. Most Finnish people speak English, at least in some level. --Lalli 14:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added link to the list of Scrooge's name in other countries

Along with many of the characters of Duckburg, Scrooge has enjoyed popularity in many countries, particularly in Europe. To find Scrooge's name in other countries, please see the list of Disney characters' names in various languages.

After making a list of Scrooge's names in other countries as a part of the great big list I figured there should be a link to this from the scrooge article. I was in a little doubt to where to place the couple of lines associated with this link, but in the end I placed them in the introduction. Feel absolutely free to move those lines to a more fitting place if found. Also I'm aware that To find Scrooge's name in other countries, please see the list of Disney characters' names in various languages sounds rather clumsy, just couln't come up with anything better. (WoiKiCK 00:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Whatever happened to

Who removed the timeline, and why? 96T 18:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It happended here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scrooge_McDuck&diff=55352321&oldid=55214296

I moved it to the Scrooge McDuck Universe because it was crufty. It has its own article, there is a link to the timeline on this page. -- Wikipedical 00:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nomination

Well someone was silly and forgot to even add the template to the talk page. Anyways, none of the images contain fair use rational. That needs to be fixed before it gets renominated.--SeizureDog 05:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedical

The user wikipedical removed so much info without proper explanation. I propose to reverse his edits.201.1.155.29 17:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry that I did not provide explanation. I am trying to move the Scrooge Timeline and the information on historical figures into Scrooge McDuck Universe. In the main one here, these sections aren't well written or sourced and can subtract to the value of the article. -- Wikipedical 22:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] French Name

For me the traduction in english of the french Name "Picsou" of Scrooge Mcduck is not "Uncle Steal-a-coin" but "Uncle Peak-coin". Because "Pic" is a moutain and "Piquer" is "to steal".--Locusfr 07:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Net Worth + Cubic Acre

Ijuin assumes that a "Cubic Acre" is a cube with every side an Acre in size. A literal interpretation would be that every edge of the cube would be an acre in size, this would make it a six-dimensional object, which would be very hard to visualize. It would be interesting to include a rough calculation on how much a cubic acre would be. [1] 惑乱 分からん 12:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I do not think his statements or databasing this information is encyclopedic. Much of it is analysis-cruft and original thought. See WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. -- Wikipedical 00:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I keep the info in here, in case anyone would like a look at it, the link I included How much is 3 cubic acres? has a more thorough discussion. 惑乱 分からん 10:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I chose the "one cubic acre equals a cube whose edge is the width of an acre plot" (four rods) interpretation because it appears to be the most consistent with the depiction in the comics of the main vault of the Money Bin being approximately cubical and filled to an average depth of ninety-nine feet. If anyone has a more accurate measurement for the length and breadth of the vault, then please correct me.
Ijuin 06:30, 29 July 2006 UTC
Let us look for a moment at what three cubic acres of cash might actually entail. An acre is a unit 
of land area four rods wide and forty rods (one furlong) long, 
yielding a total area of 160 square rods, or 4,840 square yards. 
However, when speaking of cubic measures, 
only the width of a standard acre plot (four rods = sixty-six feet) is used as a reference length. 
Thus, a cubic acre is approximately a cube measuring sixty-six feet on a side.   
   
The main vault of Scrooge's Money Bin is depicted as being roughly cubical, and it has been  
repeatedly pointed out in the comics that the Bin is filled to a depth of ninety-nine feet, 
as shown on the Depth Gauge often shown in-panel. Using the above definition for the size 
of a cubic acre and the depth of ninety-nine feet, the money in the Bin would cover a square
floor measuring between ninety-three and ninety-four feet on a side, which is consistent with 
the size shown in the comics, and supports the above choice of value for the size of a cubic 
acre. Thus, Scrooge's three cubic acres of cash would fit neatly within a 
hundred-foot cubical space.   
  
To compute roughly how much cash three cubic acres would contain, let us assume for simplicity 
that it consists entirely of "silver" coins (US quarters, dimes, half-dollars, and dollars). 
A quarter is just under an inch in width, and fifteen of them make 
a stack one inch tall. Thus, we can estimate that $3.75 makes up one cubic inch. 
This gives us a value of approximately 5.6 billion dollars contained in the money bin, 
although the occasional bundles of Dollar bills would likely yield a higher sum.


[edit] Biographical dates edit

I do NOT wish to argue,but at a character page,the given year of birth and curent age is normaly given and it is not present at this page at all,,it's not "original research",for it is on wikip,just not here. New Babylon


[edit] Per 'Scrooge's wealth and personality'; 'Morality and beliefs'

I believe the final paragraph, containing - "Barks most outright defense of capitalism and the indictment of any political system that 'tries to make everybody exactly alike' - begins to put to the question an objective, unbiased authorial perspective. Continuing, "which is the Marxist philosophy of equality in all things. Accordingly, Scrooge McDuck is both morally righteous..."; here, our collective authorship has, I believe, passed judgment upon Scrooge McDuck and his creator Barks, who two paragraphs above has been quoted: "The thing I have against the present political system is that it tries to make everybody exactly alike". Here Barks is indicting Late Capitalism, yet our authorship, with the declaratory judgment "which is the Marxist philosophy", seems to perhaps confuse a fundamental Marxist tenet of socio-economic class equalization with an essential effect of Capitalism which, while relatiing to a form of societal leveling, I believe is more to the taste of a post-World War II hyper-marketization and consolidation of modern, initially American, consumer bases serving "to make everybody exactly alike". Furthermore, I don't believe Scrooge McDuck could be a "noble capitalist", as has been explained in paragraph five: his coming to fortune in the time of the robber barons and industrialists. Surely a sizeable percentage of workers in Scrooge's mills, mines, and industrial factories, with relation to labour conditions of these respective times (1890–1920), are still not only being exploited, but oppressed en masse; an under-girding concern within the systems of both Capitalism and especially Marxism. --Perolta 10:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)