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Contents 1 Re: Images 2 Problematic images 3 Category:Aspergian Wikipedians 4 Tyrannosaurus page 5 Spelling 6 Dinosaurs! 7 Warning 8 Blocked (again) 9 Another block 10 Blocked

[edit] Re: Images

Hi, Scorpionman. I'm not sure I understand your question. I think it would help me if you were more precise; I certainly haven't deleted all the images you've uploaded. It looks to me like you have uploaded around 30 or so images, of which I've deleted three. All three were deleted a month ago, for reasons I explained on your talk page at the time. Did you not understand the explanations, or is there something else that's bothering you? I'll do my best to alleviate your concerns. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Scorpionman, I understand your frustration—locating appropriate images is one of the more difficult areas of Wikipedia. However, I do feel your position is somewhat unreasonable. The reason that you feel your most helpful images are deleted is probably because those articles are the ones for which it is the most difficult to find freely licensed images. Therefore, the article has no image; you upload a copyrighted image, which gets deleted. It was wrong of you to upload those images, regardless of how badly the article needed them. To use another's work in this manner without his permission is unethical as well as against Wikipedia policy, not to mention in contravention of U.S. and international copyright law.

Replacement images may not exist; even if they do, it is not the responsibility of those deleting the copyrighted images to find them. Copyrighted images not licensed for use here cannot be used. Furthermore, the onus is on the uploader to ensure that his contributions are free for use. It is not the responsibility of other users to police your contributions for you and tell you if they are legal or not. I am taken aback at your suggestion that other users should watch your contributions, investigate where you obtained the images, and tell you within three weeks if you uploaded something you shouldn't have. It is no one's responsibility to watch over you. Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for additional information.

They are long pages, so I will try to summarize the general principles. For any image you upload, it must be under a free license (except fair use images). This means that it must be in the public domain, or must have been released under a free license such as the GFDL or one of the allowed Creative Commons licenses. Basically, the copyright holder must agree that anyone can reuse the image for any purpose, provided the copyright holder is credited (basically similar to how the text we right is licensed). This must be explicit—a lack of copyright notice does not imply that the image is available for use. Under US copyright law, works are automatically copyrighted unless explicitly otherwise stated. Nor is it sufficient that the copyright holder agree that Wikipedia can use the image only, or that it can be used only for non-commercial purposes. Our mirrors and so on must be allowed to re-use content, including selling it if they so desire. Fair use is an exception in which under limited circumstances, we might use a copyrighted image to illustrate the subject, like a cover of a book for the article about the book.

Before you upload any further images, you must first check if it is legal for Wikipedia to use it and if it's allowable under Wikipedia rules. If not, don't upload it. It's similar for text. One can't copy text here from somewhere else unless it has been released under the GFDL or less restrictive license. If you determine the image meets uploading criteria, you should note the exact source of the image (including the URL of the page on which it's located, as well as the URL of any copyright statement to support your copyright claim). You should use the appropriate tag to describe the license; don't just pick one that sounds good. It is unethical, for instance, to assert that the copyright holder has irrevocably released all claims, like you did for those two images, when there is nothing to support such a statement, and this puts Wikipedia in a precarious legal position.

I'm going to go through all your images to see if there are any other ones which should be removed. Please let me know if you don't understand any part of my explanation, or if you have any questions. I'm trying to help you. Repeat copyright violators are normally indefinitely blocked. Given the choice between losing a possibly productive editor or breaking copyright law and being open to lawsuits and such, the Wikimedia Foundation has decided to comply with the law (and I of course agree). Wikipedia's policy is clear. Do not upload copyrighted images. Not only does it create extra work for other editors, you will eventually be blocked once people realize you're not willing to stop taking others' work without their permission. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to explain, and I apologize if I was overly harsh. Basically, assume all images are copyrighted. Under U.S. law, any creative work is automatically copyrighted unless otherwise specified. For instance, I own the copyright to this text I'm writing, even if I don't explicitly state it or register it. Now, in the absence of any other specification, you must assume "all rights reserved"; that is, the copyright holder has not released any of his copyright rights. If I were to create a blog and write an entry, that entry is automatically copyrighted and others cannot copy it (though they could quote parts of it). I may, however, choose to license it differently; perhaps I will allow others to use it if they credit me or perhaps if it is used for non-profit purposes only. So for instance, you used an image from [1]. In the absence of a specific directive, for us to use this image would be a violation of copyright law. The notice at the bottom states "© Copyright 2005 Frank Peretti. All right reserved." which confirms that we cannot use this image. These sorts of images are absolutely not allowed. Now someone may license their work in a way that others may use it. For instance, while both you and I retain the copyright to what we've written here, by posting it to Wikipedia, we agreed to license it under the GFDL. The tricky part is figuring out if an image's license will permit us to use it. At one end are images with completely free licenses, that anyone may use in any way for any purpose; obviously those are fine. At the opposite end are "all rights reserved", like that of Mr. Peretti's photograph (and the vast majority of images on the Internet). Another example is the beautiful portrayal at [2], illustrating the Earth-Theia collision that led to the formation of the moon. I wanted to use it for my article History of Earth. However, a link at the bottom takes us to [3], which informs that we can use the images provided they are not modified and that they are not used by gamedevelopers. So obviously we could use this within copyright law here, and in the past, these images were allowed. However, Wikipedia's policy is to have all our content reusable, so there are further restrictions. Basically, Wikipedia will only accept images if they can be modified and they can be used for any purpose (credit to the copyright holder must be provided). So unfortunately, that rules out the Nova Celestia images. Similarly, if I were to e-mail the copyright holder and ask if it were OK for us to use the image on Wikipedia and he agreed, that's still not enough; others must be able to reuse the content. If I were to e-mail him and he agreed that anyone could use the image for any purpose and make distributive works, though attribution of his copyright would be respected, then we would be able to use it, and there's actually an e-mail address here that you should forward the e-mail to, for record-keeping (see the links I sent you last month). Something similar has been done at this great photograph of the Taj Mahal. In the absence of such indications, we cannot use the image.

There are two exceptions to this. One is using something under "fair use", which is complicated and you'll have to read about yourself or ask someone more knowledgeable. The other is public domain. There are some works which aren't copyrighted. In general, works of the U.S. government are placed in the public domain. This means, among other things, that we have some beautiful images to illustrate space-related articles, such as the humbling Hubble Ultra Deep Field, since it was created by NASA. Also, copyright expires after some time (see Public domain#expiration, which is why we can have images like da Vinci's classic Vitruvian Man. We are free to use public domain images, although the source should still (as always) be specified.

Does this help clear things up? What other questions do you have? — Knowledge Seeker দ 20:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear it, Scorpionman. Yes, virtually all the images I've uploaded were taken by me, with the exception of a couple from the first edition of Gray's Anatomy and a couple from the U.S. government. It is very difficult to find freely usable images, and in fact I'm suprised Wikipedians have been so resourceful to obtain so many. Now that I think about it, you might be able to claim the Peretti image as fair use for his article, but you should ask someone more knowledgeable than I. For archival, you may find Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page helpful. By the way, I wanted to make sure you knew that I do not condone the recent statements of violence towards you that were made on my talk page. I would appreciate you letting me know if additional statements like that are made to you (or anyone else). — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Those were the ones to which I was referring. Did I make any violent statements? — Knowledge Seeker দ 15:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I apologize if I was overly harsh (is this in response to the images discussion)? By the way, have you made any progress in identifying the missing pieces of information for those images? They'll probably start getting deleted in a couple days, unless you supply the missing information. — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:35, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! I investigated the similarity; you're right, one's definitely a copy. However, it appears to me that the Newsdial site is the copy and Wikipedia is the original. Among other things, the line at the bottom licensing it under the GFDL and the image (doesn't exist, but is called "wikipedia.gif" and either is intended to show that Wikipedia is the source or was accidentally left in when the article was copied, I presume) both suggest Wikipedia as the source. Looking at the edit history of Shot clock, I don't see the large copying and pasting typically seen in copyright violations of this nature; rather it exhibits the slow changes and improvements typical of Wikipedia-style writing. Edits such as this, where minor changes are made which cause the two articles to match further suggest that Wikipedia is the source. But I agree, Newsdial is not properly citing Wikipedia as the source; it should clearly state so and link to Shot clock. Maybe I should add this to Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. I appreciate the vigilance; let me know if you see any other problem pages (or you can add them to WP:CP, if you wish). — Knowledge Seeker দ 17:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problematic images

As I mentioned above, I am going through your contributions to determine if there are any other images that are in violation of Wikipedia policy. Here is what I have found so far:

• Image:Sarl1p.jpg has no source information. Where did you obtain this image?
• Image:Photo 29 thumb.jpg has no source information. Where did you obtain this image?
• Image:39m.jpg has no source information. Where did you obtain this image?
• Image:Alien01.jpg states it is from http://www.waroftheworldsmovies.info/, but I don't see the image there. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Melted.jpg has no license information (presumably you are claiming it under fair use?)
• Image:Aliens.jpg (same).
• Image:ClaytonForrester.jpg (same).
• Image:EYE10.jpg you assert that the copyright holder allows anyone to use the image for any purpose. Please provide documentation of this (for instance, the web page where he states this).
• Image:EYE7.jpg you assert that the copyright holder has irrevocably released all rights to the image. Please provide documentation of this (for instance, the web page where he states this).
• Image:Peretti6.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:ThisPresentDarknesscover.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Peretti7.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:PiercingTheDarknesscover.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Godzilla hump.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Hatch.jpg you assert that you are the image's creator. I don't believe this to be accurate. Where did you obtain this image?
• Image:Baby godzilla hatching.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Prophetcover.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Tribalwarfare.jpg the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?
• Image:Raptor 5.gif the source URL does not contain the image. What specific page did you obtain the image from?

Not all your images are problematic; there were several with the source clearly identified and being properly used under fair use. Please let me know how I can assist you with properly sourcing the images listed here. Please also be aware that many of these may be deleted without any warning to you under criterion for speedy deletion I4. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't have time right now to go through all the images; however, I will tell you that the War of the Worlds TV images are from the site I provided, you just have to go to "TV Series", and then a category entitled "Photos". I'll check the others later; please give me time to change the status before deleting them (I may need help). Thanks. Scorpionman 18:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Aspergian Wikipedians

Category:Aspergian Wikipedians which you have included on your user page has been proposed for deletion you can comment at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Wikipedians by mental condition. The is also a proposal to create an association to meet the needs of users with mental health conditions. --Salix alba (talk) 18:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

At the moment I don't need that association because I'm on a special diet (no dissaccharides or polysaccharides) that should help me with this problem. Scorpionman 14:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tyrannosaurus page

Hello. You recently reverted the Tyrannosaurus article to an old and outdated version without giving an explanantion in the talke page first. Not surprisingly, another user has since reverted your revert. Please use the talk page next time; major edits such as that should not occur without a community consensus. Thanks. --Every1blowz 21:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

No, I reverted it to an updated version. The other version is outdated; why was it reverted to this?Scorpionman 19:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Hi there. Please don't alter spellings such as "colour" to "color", as you did on holography. See the Manual of Style for more. --Bob Mellish 17:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Why are you so concerned that it be spelled the British way? This is an American version; it should be spelled the American way. Scorpionman 17:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• Because the MoS states that (for non-country specific articles, such as this) that the spelling should follow the usage of the first major version of the article. Since I wrote that version (way back in August 2002 [4]), it uses BE spellings. Please don't change it again, and follow the WP:MoS. --Bob Mellish 17:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't care if you think every article should have a British background, it should be spelled the way it is in the U.S. Scorpionman 17:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• If you want to try to change the WP spelling guidelines, please discuss it on the MoS talk pages (or perhaps the mailing list). However, until they are changed, I will use BE spellings on the holography article, for the reasons I give above. So far, you haven't made any argument other than "it should be spelled the American way". Perhaps you are under the misapprehension that this is the American English Wikipedia? --Bob Mellish 17:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

What, you think we're sharing this with Britain, or is it the Old-English Wikipedia? It's 2006, for Pete's sake! Scorpionman 17:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow. That's...really something. Are you trying to suggest that Wikipedia is somehow owned by some particular country, and that it shouldn't be "sharing" it with anyone else? In case you didn't realize it by now, Wikipedia is an international project, and does not belong more to people of any particular nationality. And I don't see what Old English even has to do with it.--Hyuga 21:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Old-English uses spellings like "colour". No, I don't think that Wikipedia is owned by a particular country, but it is divided into languages. There's a Spanish version, a French version and so on. I think there should be an "American English" Wikipedia and a "British" Wikipedia. Scorpionman 21:37, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Old English does not use spellings like "colour." In fact, the Old English word for colour (or color, if you insist) is "hiw" or "bleo" (see the etymology of the world "color"). Also, American English and British English are not different languages. They are different dialects of English. Perhaps it would interest you to learn a little more about the history of the language of which you are such a big fan.--Hyuga 04:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Scorpianman, m'lad: I find British spellings irritating. English started to go downhill when the Norman upperclass told Shakespeare to stop spelling center "center", and color "color". Samuel Johnson's dictionary made things even worse. Our good friend Noah Webster reversed some of the damage (though, alas, created damage elsewhere...). But, here's the thing: none of this is relevant to Wikipedia policy! Here, on Wikipedia, there is established policy (see above) about spelling. The policy is designed to make editing and reading Wikipedia a productive and joyful experience for as many as possible. If you think there should be separate English language Wikipedias (as there soon might well be for Portuguese), propose such a change! In the meantime, please adhere to established policy. The articles whose spelling you have changed are not about a region where American spelling is dominant, and they were originally written using non-American spelling -- so they should not be changed to American spelling! BrianinStockholm 17:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

So where could I propose this change? Scorpionman 20:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm still somewhat new here, but I think the Village Pump [5] is the best place to bring this up. Note: this will be a very controversial proposal! I recommend trying to phrase it in a way that doesn't insult people who use other spelling systems. BrianinStockholm 05:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Did you ever list your proposal somewhere? If so, where? Thanks. --Cultural Freedom talk 07:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Not yet, but I will when I get around to it. Scorpionman 15:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll keep my eyes peeled. --Cultural Freedom talk 2006-06-20 16:09 (UTC)

[edit] Dinosaurs!

Just a suggestion, there are a fair number of Dinosaur articles lacking pictures at the moment. If it's just the Deinonychus you're interested in then never mind, but with a little research you could make a fair few articles a lot prettier by making pictures for them. Jefffire 16:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I can draw them but I can't scan them into the computer yet. Our computer's been giving us a load of trouble with the blue screen of death, so we have to wait for an overhaul. But I will certainly contribute when the computer is working normally again. Thanks! Scorpionman 15:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Warning

You have previously been asked to not use article talk pages to debate topics. Your recent comments on Talk:Evolution can by no means be construed to be intended to discuss ways to improve the article. If there are Wikipedians who wish to debate evolution or other topics with you, please carry this out on your personal talk pages. Alternatively, you may use the discussion forum of your choice. I must ask you not to continue in this manner. — Knowledge Seeker দ 22:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

All right, have it your way. Scorpionman 00:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked (again)

I have blocked you for making deliberately inflammatory comments, for using Talk:Evolution to debate evolution and stir up controversy despite repeated requests to stay on topic, for making personal attacks, and for inventing comments and attributing them to others.

[6] was a relatively mild personal attack. [7] was definitely an attack. [8] is just bizarre and a non sequitur; there is no way it could be construed as intending to help the article. [9] was mildly incivil. [10] is an outrageous personal attack and if you continue to treat other editors this way, you will be blocked without warning. In [11] you resume your old tactic of inventing comments from other users, presumably in a poor attempt to anger them or discredit them to other users. This is completely unacceptable. In [12], when your lack of useful contributions was pointed out, you again invent comments from other users, and fail to realize that it doesn't matter that you didn't initiate the discussion, but that you chimed in with irrelevant and completely unhelpful comments.

Several other users and I have explained to you many times that article talk pages are for discussing ways to improve the article. They are not to be used to debate the topic, and they certainly are not to be used to insult other editors. I understand your strong desire to spread your religious beliefs, but your actions have been atrocious. If I see you attacking or insulting other users in this manner, I will block you. If I see you making inflammatory or off-topic comments on talk pages of controversial articles, I will block you. You can expect rapidly increasing block lengths if you resume this behavior after your block expires. If you cannot treat editors with whom you disagree with courtesy and respect, then Wikipedia is not the project for you. Please rethink your approach to this community. — Knowledge Seeker দ 08:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think Wikipedia is the project for you either, since you seem to perseverate on blocking editors who disagree with you. By the way, there's no need to list all those instances; I'm aware of them already. Scorpionman 17:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Number 11 was not made up! I wasn't "inventing" that "insult"! It wasn't even an insult, for Pete's sake! Now you're going overboard. I told him exactly what he said, that "God must have made us, though we don't know how"! If you don't believe me you didn't read that section thoroughly. Scorpionman 17:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

So, how about all the other times? Do you deny that you are inappropiately using the talk page? Ladlergo 21:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Scorpionman, if you are referring to users who disagree with me on the importance of following Wikipedia rules or on treating others with respect, then you are correct that I would block them. And I don't think you could seriously think I was blocking you over ideological or religious differences. There are certainly numerous editors who hold viewpoints different from mine who I have not blocked, and editors who share views with me who I have blocked. I don't think you could deny that your behavior here justifies a block, and I challenge you to search the Talk:Evolution archives for anyone who has behaved worse than you who is still editing. I would be ashamed of such behavior if I were you, and I am certainly glad you don't represent my religion. The purpose of listing those instances are to demonstrate the behavior that is inappropriate in hopes that you will be able to modify specifically that behavior and remain active in other areas of Wikipedia. If you already know that you shouldn't be insulting other users and such and yet you do it anyway, then you shouldn't be editing here. The other reason for listing all the inappropriate comments, of course, is to document the reason for the block; that way, disinterested users can see exactly why the block was made—they'll be able to see that it wasn't because of your religious views, your interest in scorpions, or any other such irrelevancy. You're right about referring to Silence's comment, though I don't think you understood the use in which he intended it. But why do you write insult in quotation marks and vehemently deny that the comment was an insult? I did not claim it was an insult. This is precisely the sort of "inventing comments" that you do often and that gets you so angry. — Knowledge Seeker দ 00:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how my interest in scorpions came into this. I'm not even that interested in scorpions; I just thought the nickname was cool. Scorpionman 03:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I merely meant it as an example to illustrate that it is your behavior, not your interests, that merited the block. Your interests are irrelevant, as are mine. (For the record, Scorpio is one of my favorite constellations.) — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Fascinating. Scorpionman 14:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Now, when does my block expire?! I thought it was supposed to end today. Scorpionman 12:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Your block should expire at 08:09 (UTC) on July 23, 2006; this will occur in approximately one hour. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In the mean time, might I suggest that you try to edit as often as possible right up until your block expires? the best way to avoid autoblocks--152.163.100.133 21:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another block

You have been asked an inordinate number of times not to use article talk pages for debating or discussing the topic of the article; they are intended for discussion of how to improve the article. Examples of inappropriate comments since your last block include [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], and [25]. Especially problematic is your tendency to post inflammatory replies to months-old topics. There are copious forums, chat rooms, and blogs available for discussion of all sorts of topics; please avail yourself of them to discuss and debate in this manner—Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. You may expect rapidly increasing block lengths should you continue to misuse talk pages in this manner. — Knowledge Seeker দ 09:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Look, Mister Stalker, why don't you find something else to do rather than following me around, reading every single little comment I make, and then blocking me? I'm sure there's plenty of other articles you could contribute to without having to see what kind of "inflammatory" comments I've been making lately!!!! Why don't you follow someone else around for once?! Scorpionman 14:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I can't believe this! You're blocking me because I asked some bigot called Centauri to explain what he meant by "contradictory nonsense"? Why don't you block him for making such an inflammatory comment? Is it because you're biased against those who don't think the Bible contradicts itself? And why for pete's sake can't I even comment on The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (video game) without it being recorded in your "evidence for blocking" list???!!!!! Scorpionman 14:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

(Not to mention the comments made on Jurassic Park IV; why didn't you block any of the other users who were also debating on that talk page?!) Scorpionman 14:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Why the heck can't I even edit my own frickin' user page????????? Scorpionman 15:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your questions, Scorpionman. I had noticed some of the earlier inappropriate comments but was hoping that you would stop; however, when I logged in to revert some vandalism, I saw one of your edits on my watchlist. Since you have made only a handful of comments since your last block, and most were inappropriate, it was not difficult to see the pattern. An experienced administrator with a tabbed browser can quite quickly scan through a user's edits. I haven't seen anyone else making a string of inappropriate comments like that recently, but if you have someone in mind, I would be happy to investigate. Please don't call other users "bigots" or insult them in any other way. That's the sort of thing that would get your block extended, were it not already lengthy. You are correct that Centauri's comment, in isolation, is out of place. However, there are several differences. His comment was a direct reply to an earlier comment of yours; it was an inappropriate conversation that you started, and you re-opened the discussion months later. By all accounts, you instigated the unproductive debate. Add that to a general pattern of this behavior, and you'll get the reason for the re-block. Also, his comment was many months ago; in the cases were the discussion seems active, I left notices on the talk pages to try to restrict this sort of discussion. Again, if you can show evidence that Centauri or another user has been stirring up conflict like this on multiple pages, I would be happy to take a look. Your assumption of my motives is incorrect. I have not read the Bible and have no idea if it contradicts itself or not. Nor do I care. You are correct that the comments at Talk:The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King by themselves are not out of line; I normally would not even warn a user for those types of comments, though I would attempt to get the discussion on the talk page back under control (though I notice even there you were mildly chastised by another user). I wish to demonstrate it as part of a larger trend that you continually debate and express your opinion on the subject matters of articles on their talk pages; it is not limited to subjects and people that you perceive to be in conflict with your religious beliefs and that your block is not solely for those comments. You cannot edit your user page because I have currently blocked you from editing; you will be able to edit once the block expires. If there is an edit you wish to make to it, you may let me know here and I would be happy to do it for you. Please let me know if you have any further questions. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Nope. I know everything I need to know at the moment. Thank you. Scorpionman 14:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, wise guy! My block was supposed to end today!! So why am I still blocked, and why does it all of a sudden say that it's supposed to end Thursday???

You seem to have been blocked for nine days according to the log.... Homestarmy 12:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

You may refer to me by my username, "Knowledge Seeker". Homestarmy is correct. Your block will expire in a little over six days. I am not certain why you believed your block was to end today; as I've mentioned a couple times already, your block lengths will continue to increase if you continue to misuse article talk pages in this manner. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Kind of funny...Just two days ago I was able to edit, and now I can't. If I was blocked, I wouldn't be able to edit two days ago. And as for my thinking that, that's what the frickin' log said, GOSH!!!! Scorpionman 15:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Only the "Scorpionman" account has been blocked from editing, and your contributions show that your only edit that day was to reply to me. Perhaps you inadvertently logged out or edited under a different user name without intending to evade your block. I am not certain what log you are viewing; your block log shows the nine-day block. It appears you have triggered three autoblocks by trying to edit while you are blocked; these typically expire after one day and may be what you thought you saw. Does that make sense? — Knowledge Seeker দ 21:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks. Scorpionman 11:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

Article talk pages are intended for discussion of how to improve the article. I have repeatedly asked you to stay on-topic on article talk pages, and not to reply to months-old topics, especially if you don't have anything useful to contribute. I don't know how you could possibly think that this edit was appropriate in the slightest, or what you hoped to accomplish by insulting me. Article talk pages are not to be used to insult other editors. Especially when you are inventing complaints about other users. You'll bet anything that I deleted that image? I'll take that bet. How about temporary use of your editing privileges as the stakes. You can expect rapidly increasing block lengths if you resume this behavior after your block expires. — Knowledge Seeker দ 21:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

You know, he did appear to take the comment back right afterwards in the next comment he made in that section..... Homestarmy 23:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I was right, Knowledge Seeker; you are stalking me. How is it that you seem to find out about every single, stupid little comment I make? I can't believe it! You know, I did say I didn't mean to insult anyone, but you're pushing me towards changing my mind. How can you do this? Don't you have anything better to do than to find reasons to block me? Huh? Can you? No, I didn't think so. I think that users who follow other users around trying to find reasons to block them should be blocked. Okay, I'll stay off off-topic conversations, dang it! We swears on the preciousss! Now, seeing as how I've promised, will you please leave me alone! PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE OR SO HELP ME I WILL CALL THE POLICE! HA HA! Scorpionman 03:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I find out about your edits via your contributions page; it is freely available to any visitor. Since most of your comments are inappropriate, they are immediately apparent. I am not certain what you are trying to convey in this rant, but I invite you to express it more clearly. Your promise is irrelevant. It's simple: If you avoid the behavior in question, you will not be blocked. If you do not, you will. You are welcome to contact the police to assist you. In the meantime, I've extended your block to indefinite as per Wikipedia:No legal threats. You will be welcome to resume editing when your legal matters are settled and your prior block has elapsed. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd think the "HA HA" would signify sarcasm.... Homestarmy 12:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Knowledge Seeker, I think you're being a bit unfair here. It appears very obvious that he was being sarcastic, and as for that "insult" in the Gary Larson talk page it was also apparent that he wasn't trying to insult you. You're overreacting. BugEyedMonster 16:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Heck, yes! Didn't you see that "Ha Ha", Knowledge Seeker? Why the heck do you take everything seriously? I put the "HA HA" in there to signify sarcasm! Now will you PLEASE stop being so dang unreasonable and lay off of me?! And why are you paying so much attention to my contributions page? Are you looking for reasons to block me? That was a rhetorical question; of course you are! You should realize, or course, that I wasn't trying to insult you in the Gary Larson talk page; didn't you see that little disclaimer I added at the bottom, which is what Homestarmy is trying to point out to you???? I had no intention of contacting the police; you're looking for reasons to keep me off of Wikipedia. Scorpionman 16:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Let me ask you, Knowledge Seeker, do you have me on your Watchlist? Is that why you find out when I "insult" you? Scorpionman 16:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

And now you're rudely ignoring everything I say. Scorpionman 15:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, he does seem to be...BugEyedMonster 18:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I apologize for the delay in my response; I was absent from Wikipedia for several days. I have removed the indefinite block and restored the original one. Your talk page is on my watchlist, as is the talk page of most users with whom I communicate, since my preferences are set to automatically watch pages I edit. Contributions pages cannot be watchlisted. Your "insult" itself doesn't concern me—I don't particularly care if you insult me or not, so apologies and disclaimers don't really matter. What does concern me is that you posted a personal complain about a user on an unrelated article talk page, replying to a discussion that was months-old, and making deliberately untrue and misleading statements (obviously, I didn't delete that image, and I've only deleted three of your images, as you well know). I don't really care if you make wild claims about me; those who are familiar with me will know that such a mischaracterization is obviously untrue, and those that don't will realize it once you are unable to produce any evidence to back up your claims. But your next target could easily be someone who is new to Wikipedia, or who can be more easily intimidated than I. This sort of posting lies about and attempting to smear users is unacceptable, and detrimental to Wikipedia's environment. You know this sort of behaviour is inappropriate, as you have previously indicated. Please stick to discussion of articles on article talk pages. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)