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"Meddling kids" cliche should get a mention. Seems to me that Scooby-Doo is the template for it.24.85.227.237 17:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Should who does the voices be mentioned?

yes, if you know them -- Tarquin

Casey Kasem was the original voice of Shaggy. Someone else does both Shaggy and Scooby now, though. Kasem also did various incidental voices, such as supporting characters for single episodes. --Frecklefoot

Kasem was in and out as the voice of Shaggy through the 90s and into the present day, depending on the particular project. Frank Welker, who also does the voice of Freddie, is a well-known voice actor with a particular talent with with animal sounds, and he has voiced Scooby-Doo in most recent projects.12.162.189.80 16:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Over the last week, I updated the listings for all the voices for the Scooby incarnations. That seemed logical, since this is a page for the character and all the shows he appeared in, as opposed to just for "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?" Hope this helps! -- TOM-H-CRGL3 22:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

The voices in the article are the ones I got from the IMDB for "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?"; since that's the focus of the article, I didn't bother with later Scooby incarnations. If we want those, this article should probably be changed to deal with Scooby-Doo in general, or maybe split into separate articles for the character and the show. -- Shammack 15:56 Apr 16, 2003 (UTC)

Moved this comment from the article, since it belongs here anyway:

somebody care to name others?

Referring to some other cartoon series of Hannah-Barabara of mystery-solving sleuths. --Frecklefoot 13:47 23 May 2003 (UTC)

I think we got them all...except Ruby-Spears Productions' Fangface. I will add it. --b. Touch 22:39, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I also added "Speed Buggy" as well. --b. Touch 22:50, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Also, what about Scooby Doo and the 13 Ghosts? There was some boy who was with Shaggy, Daphne, and Scooby, but I dunno his name.

Flim-flam was the name of the Asian boy on "The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo" --b. Touch 21:31, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I deleted the following:

Though the cartoon was rooted in the present, the name had its origins rooted in the past. "Scooby-Doo" was culled from a nonsense line on Frank Sinatra's 1964 recording of Bert Kaempfert's Strangers In The Night. That line, "scooby-dooby-doo," would also go on to become one of the program's indelible catch phrases.

Um, that's DOOBY dooby doo. RickK | Talk 06:48, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

There's a lot of sites on the internet that mention this Frank Sinatra / Scooby Doo connection [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] .... the question is, is this what really happened or is it a myth/rumor? Unfortunately Snopes doesn't have anything about it. Does anyone have a primary source either confirming or denying it? PenguiN42 00:40, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

It's true. CBS exec Fred Silverman was reportedly listening to the song on the plane ride back from the first meeting (where "Who's Scared" was rejected by Silverman's superior's). the info can be found at the official Ruby-Spears website (Ruby and Spears, of course, being the creators of Scooby-Doo): http://www.rubyspears.com/scooby.html B Touch 21:30 18 Sept 2004 (UTC)

[edit] #1 claim

Removed:

Scooby-Doo (in both old and new series) is the #1 animated TV show on Cartoon Network, and is the second most popular cartoon with kids on television to Spongebob Squarepants, its major competitor.

It is an opinion. May be presented only with indication who stated this. Mikkalai 05:34, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I do not know whether this is true or not, but this would not be a matter of opinion. It is either true or not. There is such a thing as Nielsen Ratings.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 05:31, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

From: User:65.73.0.137 Subject: Something's gone wrong.

Dear Wikipedians:

How come it seems that a previous edit with the Frank Sinatra connection with Scooby Doo appears on the page and doesn't appear in the editing section? Please explain to me why this sometimes is. Thank you.

I don't know, perhaps someone removed it. You can look back through the 'page history'. If you think it was removed in error, feel free to put it back. Mark Richards 21:59, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

My favourite ever comment about Scooby-Doo was: "The thing that worries me about the show is why, during a period of unprecedented economic growth, were so many American theme parks left abandoned?" --bodnotbod 21:44, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Page revamp

Would it be a good idea to make short seperate pages for each incarnation of Scooby (since no two are alike)? That way, we could better list and discuss characters that are exclusive to each version, and also discuss the shows that were packaged with Scooby-Doo as well (e.g.: Scooby-Doo and Dynomutt in 1976). --b. Touch 22:50, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I started working on all of the information for each individual Scooby show. It seems to read better as one long article instead of breakout articles; breakouts could be done for an episode list and for the package series The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Hour, and Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics (also known as Scooby's All Stars). I've gotten to 1979 so far (haven't yet mentioned Scooby-Doo Goes Hollywood or Scooby and Scrappy-Doo yet.) Anyone willing to help out? Please?? :) I've posted what I've written so far on my personal page as a temporary placeholder--b. Touch 02:38, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, I finished the info. I only made breakout pages for the "package shows" which contained more than just Scooby-Doo cartoons (e.g. Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics. If someone wanted to make breakout pages for the direct-to-video movies, they could do so. --b. Touch 20:34, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It is true, he had a guitar in the cartoon-series sometimes performing with a band in one eposide. Why did you remove this link? 18 Sep 2004 (CST)

Scooby's gutiar playing in that series is only a minor gag as far as the series in involved, and only appeared in a few episodes. Not even a breakout page dedicated to A Pup Named Scooby-Doo would mention Scooby playing guitar; it isn't essential to the article. --b. Touch 23:28, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have no idea if "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" cartoon series had rock & roll music in the past, or the music changed in the show away from rock & roll later on to something to "crossover" music?

10 Nov 2004 (CST)

User 10:07 P.M.

The music in "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" was rock music based on late-50s, early 60s style rock and roll & doo-wop. --b. Touch 16:39, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Do you know any popular soundtracks used in that cartoon series? This show is currently off the air, this time.

There were no popular songs used in the show; just new, original songs similar to popular old songs. --b. Touch 03:49, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] What's New, Scooby-Doo?

What's New, Scooby-Doo? is not a part of the original series; therefore it should not be listed as such. It technically isn't a spin-off, but a revival/reimagining of the series, and that is how it is currently being listed as in the filmography. --b. Touch 06:22, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] The series guide

I moved the bulk of what I originally added (all the info about the various Scooby series) to Scooby-Doo series guide. I was going to call it "episode guide," but if you want to be the one to be the one to list all 350+ episodes of Scooby-Doo, be my guest. :).

Anyway, I moved the page because the main page was too long. I was getting the "this page is approaching 32K" error message while editing.

--b. Touch 09:21, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Adult themes and the Scooby Gang

Any reason why this page cannot be merged into the main Scooby Doo article? Nothing links to it outside of a user page and this page. --Woohookitty 23:01, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Nominate it for deletion and ask for a merge with no redirect. see what the general consensus is. --b. Touch 23:39, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Merged material from Adult themes in Scooby-Doo as per the VfD. --Death phoenix 03:51, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I reverted your edits. There was no consensus, adult themes isn't important to the main article, and it takes up too much space in the main article. Marcus2 15:27, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

And I redid the merge and redirect, as per request on the discussion of whether or not to merge. Even if the article is very long, that information is relevant in discussing Scooby Doo's effect on pop culture, and the section by itself did not merit its own page. Cybertooth85 18:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scooby Doo as a franchise

I suppose it makes perfect sense to not only have this article refer to the television program, but since it is pretty extensive, to at least discuss the business of the Scooby Doo franchise (after all, it's a HUGE marketing thing.)

If anyone happens to know anything relevant to this aspect, it would make a good addition to the article.

JD 06:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Major clipping

I clipped this entire section out of the article, as it's honestly truly stupid and doesn't really belong in the aricle. I've included it here as it's still a big deletion. I'm no prude or anything, but do we really have to include every sarcastic teenage conjecture? --Yoshi348 03:14, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Adult themes

There is a long tradition of subtle inclusion of adult themes in children's media, especially cartoons. Here are some conjectured adult themes in the Scooby-Doo television series.

[edit] Scooby Gang as "Potheads"

It is often mentioned that there appear to be veiled drug references in the series. The Scooby gang do bear some resemblance to potheads, and the authors of the show have admitted to allowing some degree of ambiguity to develop around this issue, while never explicitly showing any of the gang taking drugs. This can be considered fanon.

"Clues" include:

Shaggy and Scooby always being hungry.
Their passion for 'Scooby snacks'—could these really be just dog biscuits? (this was referenced in the song "Land Of a Million Drums" by OutKast featuring Killer Mike and Sleepy Brown, featured on the Scooby Doo movie soundtrack)
The mystery machine being covered in pictures of flowers.
The gang's inability to solve the obvious cases (excepting Velma).
An episode of the series Harvey Birdman, Attorney At Law on the Cartoon Network (which now owns the characters) featured Shaggy and Scooby being arrested for "possession" while laughing uncontrollably in a smoke-filled Mystery Machine. However, they were innocent of the charges, and the show made no explicit references to cannabis.
The paranoia experienced by Shaggy and Scooby, despite the fact that they had both been involved in the foiling of dozens of so-called spirits. Yet in each new episode they experience fear right up to the moment of the unmasking of the villian.
Shaggy always said "like" to the extreme, e.g. "Zoinks! Like Scoob, let's get outta here!!"
Scooby and Shaggy were always the ones in the back of the van, although it was suggested that the two were too busy eating.

Fun Lovin' Criminals built on this rumor, releasing a song about being "wacked out on Scooby Snacks."

[edit] Sexual relationship between Daphne and Fred

Daphne and Fred almost always pair off to 'look for clues' together at some point in the show. In the Scooby-Doo film, this idea is self parodied.

[edit] Velma a lesbian?

Fans have long speculated that the frumpy, no-nonsense and not-very-feminine Velma is a lesbian. The reasons for this suspicion basically boils down to two points:

Velma is quite butch, both in manner and dress, especially when compared with Daphne.
She is never shown with a boyfriend (at least not until the motion picture).

It has often been suggested that Velma has a crush on the clueless Daphne. Additionally, Velma has a considerable fan base among real-life lesbians, who see her as one of their own. The idea of Velma as a lesbian is parodied in the 2001 motion picture Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

Cartoon Network seems to deny this, and offered Velma to be the girlfriend of Johnny Bravo, a hero of another (more recent) show bearing the same name. The offer was well-presented in at least two Cartoon Network's self-made stub animations.

[edit] Character bases

"Fred was based on Dobie, Shaggy on Maynard, Velma on Zelda and Daphne on Thalia. Once you know this, when you look at the first season's shows, it becomes obvious.

                                       Mark Evanier
                                       Former SCOOBY-DOO Writer" [7]

The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis is listed as an inspiration in the "creation and development" section. --FuriousFreddy 18:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gold Key Comics.

Don't forget that Gold Key Comics published a few also...

Michael 02:07, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

And the comic books dropped him? :(

Now listen to me, there are no more brand new Scooby Doo shows on the air in Fall of this year, and in 2006 on television, not radio.

He cannot be compared to Charlie, I will tell you. Charlie is a mixed breed, with the same black nose and long ears, his head shaped like a lightbulb, also a yellow-creamed dog, there are no shows featuring him today also on television.

Bugs Bunny? He did not appear in his cartoons, after all, BB is not a dog, I just want you to know. :-|

[edit] Vandalism

Someone has fairly extensively vandalized this article with juvenile insults and rambling nonsense. Anyone want to take a crack at fixing it?

Done -- believe it or not it takes more effort to vandalize an article than it does to revert it....all it takes to revert a vandalized article is a few mouse-clicks ;) --EmiOfBrie 17:57 CST 11/25/2005

[edit] Whatever you like Scooby or not

His cartoons are are being shown these days on television. This is nothing, but mostly haunting mysteries involving Scooby and Shaggy. No, Shaggy is a person, not a dog. All of this began from the start of 1969 to maybe present.

Others being involved with S.D.

Charlie - Cartoon dog character, what does he do? His attempts to sell himself, and he is mostly a tan dog, but he often changed his appearances. But, despite a lot of people said he was not directly involved with Scooby. Perhaps he was sometimes shown in the Scooby cartoons between 1974 and 1979, but they are both talking dogs.

Both characters either have little or no appeal to older people, but this information must be put on the article.

--65.54.155.47 03:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scooby Doo 3?

Is it really coming out? Anybody have a source?

No, it's not coming out until they at least announce a signed cast, a script, and annouce the start of pre-production. --FuriousFreddy 02:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Information from Joe Barbera's autobiography

Not that I want to detract at all from the tremendous amount of work that has been put into this article, but I noticed that the autobiography isn't in the list of references, so I thought I'd check my copy.... The book is out of print, but here's the general citation: Barbera, Joe (1994). My Life In 'toons: From Flatbush to Bedrock in Under a Century, First hardcover edition, Turner Publishing, Inc., Pages 170-172. ISBN 1-57036-042-1. On the pages listed at the end, Barbera discusses the original Scooby-Doo series. According to Barbera, Silverman originally called the series "House of Mystery", even before "Mysteries Five." There's also some discussion about "working like mad to get some artwork whipped up", the initial CBS rejection, despite the 10:30 AM slot being locked, and discussion on how Don Messick's voice for Scooby made him the centerpiece for the show, and that in turn helped Silverman convince the network to buy the series. If anyone would like specific quotes, or other information, please feel free to contact me - leave a message on my talk page! --JohnDBuell 03:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scooby Dumb

Why isn't Scooby-Dumb mentioned???

The character is Scooby-Dum, and he's mentioned in the second paragraph. --JohnDBuell 03:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

He is also mentioned at the bottom of the page in "Characters" --Will James 02:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cartoon Network Special

The name of the special escapes me now, but I can't find any information in the article about a special which Cartoon Network produced and aired the halloween of 2002(I believe) which featured David Cross and Gary Coleman, shouldn't there be some mention on this page? --NeoVampTrunks 17:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The title is Night of the Living Doo, and it has been added to the article. --FuriousFreddy 22:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

I reverted your revert restoring POV. Yes, most of us can agree that it's popular, but it remains POV. Any thoughts? Marcus 13:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Female Dog Character

I may be wrong but I remember a female dog who was around during the Scooby Dum days that was a cousin of Scooby's and had a southern accent. I have seen no mention of her in the article and was wondering if anyone else remembers this. Flagg 29

Her name was Scooby-Dee? Flagg 29

Her name was indeed Scooby-Dee, and she appeared in one 1977 episode of the Scooby-Doo portion of Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics, "The Chiller Diller Movie Thriller". The character is briefly mentioned at Scooby-Doo (1976-1979 television series). --70.119.147.160 18:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

In the trivia section, a series of facts are told, ALL of which are direct copies from the inside cover of the Scooby Doo box set of seasons 1 and 2. Should this be cited? (I repeat, the trivia is an EXACT copy of the facts)--Will James

Removed is what it should be, and has been, especially since all of it is already included in the prose. --FuriousFreddy 14:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Scooby-Doo series guide back here

It doesn't make sense to create a new article which just reproduces the TV filmography already seen in this article (Scooby-Doo#TV_series). It should be redirected back to this article, unless we're going to start creating new pages for every single subsection in an article. 172.200.78.219 20:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

As no one has contested this proposal I've now merged the series guide back into this one. 172.141.12.63 01:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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