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[edit] Thanks for your voting!
Hi, thanks for your voting on my RFA. It has finished with the result 88/14/9, and I am promoted. I am really overwhelmed with the amount of support I have got. With some of you we have edited many articles as a team, with some I had bitter arguments in the past, some of you I consider to be living legends of Wikipedia and some nicks I in my ignorance never heard before. I love you all and I am really grateful to you.
If you feel I can help you or Wikipedia as a human, as an editor or with my newly acquired cleaning tools, then just ask and I will be happy to assist. If you will feel that I do not live up to your expectation and renegade on my promises, please contact me. Maybe it was not a malice but just ignorance or a short temper. Thank you very mach, once more! abakharev 07:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you
Thank you for the award. I know I don't deserve that as I sometimes loose my temper. Although, I'll keep that to remember the standards I aim to adhere to. :-) alx-pl D 22:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Help needed
Hi, I wonder if you could take a look at Talk:Erika Steinbach, where among other things one of the editors explains that Polish territory was not occupied by Nazi Germany during WW2 but was "integrated" into Germany instead. I hope it could be useful if not Polish but German editors would voice their opinion there. --Lysytalk 17:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hallo, ich würde mich gerne mit Dir (und all den anderen, die das unerträglich dumme und selbstverliebte Geschwätz nicht mehr ertragen können) über Molobo und dessen Verquerung/Verzerrung/Falschgewichtung/etc geschichtlicher Tatsachen (zB Kulturkampf) auf der englischen Wiki-Seite sowie über geeignete und angemessene Gegenmaßnahmen sprechen. (Eigentlich sollte einem dieser Ignorant egal sein, aber) Wenn man bedenkt, wie viele Menschen im englischsprachigen Raum täglich diesen Schwachsinn lesen und - mangels anderer Informationen - am Ende auch noch für bare Münze nehmen, kann einem nur Angst und Bange werden.
Da unter Molobo und seiner Clique der Glaube vorzuherrschen scheint, dass der von ihnen verzapfte Unsinn, wenn man ihn nur lange genug wiederholt, schon irgendwann wahr wird, sehe ich jedenfalls keinen Sinn darin, sich mit dieser offenbar völlig verblendeten Truppe im Wege einer sachlichen Diskussion auseinanderzusetzen (dass Du das - wie man sieht - bislang tapfer versucht hast, ehrt Dich, ist aber mE ein Kampf gegen Windmühlen). Es sollte aber noch andere (selbstverständlich faire und zulässige) Strategien geben sich gegen die Kamerilla zur Wehr zu setzen.
Hallo Sciurinae At your age you should not have to wrestle with heavy problems and burdens like the topics you are trying to keep fair in wikipedia, but somehow you stepped into this morass by trying to use reason with a group of people, who are determined to and are taking over at wikipedia and elsewhere. I found this article, which gives some pretty good inside to what is really going on here and elsewhere [1]. Perhaps an independend school/student/academics or other group project somewhere could individually list the problems and the quotes. wiki is not an independent site, despite of what it seems to be. The problem is much too detailed for one or even a handful of people alone. American user Sca wrote a while back, who tried to reason with them, but gave up, as so many others did, 'these people are not bothered by facts at all'. Mind you, every word you write and is written about you, every poisonous false utterance, every statement, by Molobo & Co or others is multiplied by wikipedia mirrors and shows up on search engines manyfold, also Vorsicht. MG 3/31/2006
Sciurinae, just a note for clarification:
The article on internet talks about 'Poland and the Falsification of its History'. Therefore this link was posted for its book title only. Neither the book nore any of the people are known to me and it is not an indorsement or a recommendation of the book or anyone related to it. Merely the title reflects what Molobo & Co are doing at Wikipedia constantly.
The article starts (Translation): Have the courage to speak your mind ... there will be no longer doubts, the words bring clarity. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
If you want to, you (or I) can take the link out and just replace it with the title: Poland and the Falsification of its History.
False Accusation: Claims, that 'your friend' recommended other books from the site and a number of other nonesense rantings. Twisting and turning seems to be a Molobo speciality.
MG 4/6/2006
Other books from the site recommended by your friend:
- Arnold S. Leese, et al. - Jewish Ritual Murder resources.
- Von Verschuer - Racial Biology of the Jews.
- The Godless - What the Nazis were fighting against.
The site also uses nazi propaganda imagery: [2] signed:Tell her the truth about history, race and culture.
It's somewhat good that people show sources of their views and edits. --Molobo 18:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused. You mean these racist books represent MGs' views and edits? Sciurinæ 18:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
MGs says its a good representation of what's going on. The book is a racists tirade on how inferior Poles are as a nation. What should I think of a person who presents such books and links to sites presenting Holocaust Denial and Nazi propaganda ? Anyway sorry for the interruption. Please continue your discussions with your friend. --Molobo 18:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Sciurinæ, here is a Polish site in English language on internet.
Molobo, might also want to read the following article. It gives insight and some sort of explanation for what is going on.
It is a Polish article on Falsification of History in Poland:
http://wiez.free.ngo.pl/jedwabne/article/35.html
Reading and pondering this might actually do some good. In any case it gives some explains, why the distortions, misrepresentations and twisting of facts at Wikipedia are going on. The extreme fanatism and destructiveness is difficult to comprehend though and constantly 'wiping up after them' gets tiring.
Anyway, have a good weekend. MG 4/7/2006
[edit] Kusma's RfA
Hello, Sciurinæ! Thank you for your support in my recent successful request for adminship. If you ever have problems that you could use my assistance with or see me doing stupid things with my new buttons, don't hesitate to contact me. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 02:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:AA Zyda.jpg
Hello, as we can see in
- http://www.digigarden.com/digicamera/pix2003/03-BizTrips/03-12-singapore/
- http://www.damer.com/notice/notice.cc.html
I change license tag cc-by-sa to cc-by-nc-sa. If you have author agremment, maybe it need to say it. fr:Utilisateur:Bayo 15:34, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello... your recent contributions have been almost nothing except reverts of other editors on many, many articles, numerous times the same editors... Please, this is not the way to resolve disputes. If you don't start discussing on the talk page and stop constantly reverting, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. In the interest of complete closure, I have also left this message for Space Cadet (talk • contribs).--Sean Black (talk) 00:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Berlin
Hi Sciurinæ, thanks for supporting Berlin Wikipedia:Good Article Collaboration of the week request. May be you have the time to promote it to other users or put the request in discussiongroups. Would be great ! Sashandre all the best for you
[edit] sorry
That was my first effort at using popups...I tried to clean it up, but you beat me to it. Best, Kukini 15:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Johannes Hevelius Polonus
John Hevelius was Polish astronomer in non stricte ethnical sense - see Mikołaj Kopernik casus. He was Polish citizen, supported by Polish king. See also casus of G.F. Händel who had German origins but he was British.
[edit] Vandalism reverts
I see you have recently done a lot of vandalism reverting, which is very good. (Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my userpage so quickly, by the way). To ensure that the vandals do get blocked when they vandalize repeatedly, could you please warn them using the warning templates and possibly report them at WP:AIV if they vandalize after a final warning? Thank you, Kusma (討論) 21:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- I generally use {{test2}} for deliberate but harmless vandalism and {{bv}} for really bad stuff. I use {{test}} for cases where I manage to assume good faith that the edit was a test ("Hey I can edit this page!" would be a typical example), while some other people always start with {{test}}. There are no hard rules for all of this; use your own judgement. And don't worry that your threats are empty: via WP:AIV, they aren't really empty, and also empty threats often work surprisingly well: Many vandals stop after the first or second warning because they realize other people are watching their edits. In your specific example, I would give a {{test2}}. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 22:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Expulsion
Do you really think that the map displayed at the Expulsions article is appropriate without a map that would reflect the pre-WW2 areas with german majority? I don't know anything about the extent, but I think that it is possible, that there was some new german expansion during WW2, therefore the map showing the land traditionally - I mean more than 2 centuries - inhabited by germans would be more appropriate. If we are talking expulsions, we talk about deporting people from their homes, not from the houses of polish Jews which they gained in WW2. I second the removal of the map frop. You can RfC if you dont agree. 85.70.5.66 19:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
For reverting the vandalism to my user page! --Charlie( @CIRL | talk | email ) 19:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re:[3]
Are you sure you made the right title ? I don't see anything uncivil.Perhaps you should be more specific ? Is the information that Prussia viewed Poles as inferior people uncivil in some way ? Is that why it is being deleted by you and your German collegues ? --Molobo 21:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
- Again, you're not succeeding in making me angry, Molobo. You know very well why these comments of yours ([4] [5] [6] ) are incivil. This way you're just blowing your last chance in Wikipedia. Sciurinæ 21:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Polonophobia article was just fine. Many Polish editors agree with it and want it restored. It simply attacked too often by various national POV pushers that vandalise it. Including Polish nationalists.
It appears that you vehemently try to ally with Ukrainian editors to fight against Russians. That would also explain why you're so keen on defining my "collegues" Looking at this I am really shocked Sciurinæ. Perhaps you should rest a while from Wiki. It seems you are seeing conspiracies and plots everywhere. The reason behind my actions is simple-I study history and I know how much wrongdoings are there between Poles and Ukrainians with both sides having some misdeeds to each other. I really advise you to either rest or distance yourself from Wiki as you are sounding more and more strange(I am really sorry if that offends you but this is the impression I get from your statements).
It's strange that you make me make friends with others. Hmmm. You take part in the same debates, use the same arguments, and pursue the same edits so I guessed I generalised you as a group due to similiar interests, behaviour and actions. somehow I get the idea that you're planning some kind of Wiki World War... Please Sciurinæ either rest or really distance yourself from Wiki, you are starting to sound very, very weird. I am simply interested in XIX and XX century history.
the others and then proceed without your prior approval. Hmm ? I agree with others if they are reasnoble and engage in sensible discussion. For example Richardshusr[7] Just use arguments, no insults, and discussion. --Molobo 01:45, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] H-K-T
Hi there, I just wanted to let you know that I have expanded the article on German Eastern Marches Society significantly and hopefully this would end the debates. I hope to hear your opinion on the matter. //Halibutt 22:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copernicus question
As you have noticed, I try to stay out of this debate. However recently Molobo pointed me to this edit. I am rather averse to edits remving sources - could you explain to me your reasons behind it? I don't want to go to article and revert anything before I hear both sides of the story.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 15:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV-Pushing
Hallo Scurinae,
beim durchlesen einiger Artikel ist mir ein User leider sehr negativ aufgefallen und zwar Molobo. Dieser user versucht bei vielen Themen seine germano und russophoben Meinungen durchzusetzen. Gibt es denn kein Mittel dieses zu verhindern. Das meiste was er von sich gibt scheint, mir zumindest, aus Deutschenhass und polnischem Nationalismus gespeist. Ich bin leider in der englischen Wikipedia kaum involviert, bin aber in der Deutschen und Spanischen unter Tresckow zu finden.
2 the expulsion u base ur conclusions on I completely fail to understand what you mean in this sentence ? UR-as in ancient ? "U base" what is "u base" ? I write nothing about bases ? --Molobo 18:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Backgroun - Czechoslovakia + Nationality
Hallo Scurinae,
I have added some text to the background part for Czechoslovakia into the Expulsion article. Me and Richard then trimmed it to fit into the article. I would like to know, if you have any comments on this part.
For the nationality issues: I have read an article on the German wikipedia about Kafka - some argued he was German because he was writing in German, some called him Austrian because Czech belonged to Austria, some argued he was Jewish because that is what he allegedly said in the census, and some that he was Czech as he spoke both Czech and German and died as a Czechoslovakian citizen.
To me, this is all crap. I think that nationality is irrelevant for most of these people as they would have to chose it themselves, and it was also irrelevant for them at that time (especially with Copernicus). If we have doubts about nationality in central european people before 20th century, we should call them European.
ackoz 
21:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nationality and Language in Czech lands
Hi .. i think it was you with whom I had the discussion about whether the German speaking people in 18/19th century Czech lands were ethnically German. I would like to point you to this article: http://www.expats.cz/prague/article/books-literature/czech-language/ by a norwegian journalist, which explains why many of the ethnically Czech inhabitants were German-speaking in that period. Greetings ackoz 14:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] please check this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Narcissism
[edit] I entered well sourced references
I entered well sourced references, which you simply deleted, disregarding any civility, in your usuall manner of trying to erase any information about persecution of Poles in Germany, like already tried to do in Kulturkampf and Hakata articles. Because your sole main actvitity is concentrated to following mine edits and deleting information I enter, because it conflicts with your POV, seemingly with with belief that Poles weren't victims of German state(a very strange one considering the amount of sources), I can't consider your edits as anything else then stalking vandalism. --Molobo 22:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I see you continue to use insults. --Molobo 22:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I could remove them, but I know you try to claim this is serious incivility etc. Really your efforts only delay the inevitable, sooner or later the information about persecution of Poles in Prussia or German Empire will be added, since it is historical fact. --Molobo 22:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, you won't get me angered, too bad. I think you went seriously out of touch with what I am doing and what my intentions are. You are of no importance nor motivation to my work, besides occasional deletions of information that I have to live with. --Molobo 22:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blocked for disruptive edit warring
Sciurinæ, more than a month ago when you were part of that unimaginable revert rampage with Molobo, which resulted in my blocking him indefinitely and then for a month, you got some stern warnings about edit warring. Recently you've engaged in extensive edit warring on many distinct articles, including, Soviet partisans in Poland, History of Poland, Historical Eastern Germany, Otto von Bismarck, Teutonic Knights, German Empire, and those are just the ones I found in the last few days before I tired of looking at your contributions. I am disheartened to see you continuing this behavior, rather than using proper, constructive, dispute resolution processes. For continuing this disruptive behavior, I have blocked you for 72 hours (which is only so light because it is your first block, but you are certainly not new here). Molobo will also be receiving a block from me. Dmcdevit·t 05:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Allright, I have deserved it and will try to change for the better in the future. Sciurinæ 07:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks for your quick reverts to vandalism on my user page Thegraham 14:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pesfan oops
- Heh, somehow I didn't get the edit conflict warning as we both tried to fix the vandal edit. Sorry bout that, I'll defer to you to fix it right :) -- MrDolomite | Talk 21:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Eh he, and I was actually briefly trying to find the deeper meaning of the sentence "Andio has a new combine harvester and he's giving me the key." [8] ;-) Finally it's sprotected... But I must admit I liked their picture of a duck.. Sciurinæ 21:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Warning
??? Sciurinæ 11:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- LOL, yes I did. Sorry for scaring the hell out of you. I removed the warning. VP is acting up for me for some reason. --Bearly541 12:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Someone was vandalizing a userpage, I did my best to revert it, but VP acted up. If you have issues with that, contact the makers of VP, but be glad that I rv that page from the suspected vandal. End of discussion. --Bearly541 12:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
desolé je voulais juste faire une surprise, j'aurais supprimé se message par apres !
[edit] Sock puppet tag
A lot of people know of Karin Friedrich's book, even you, since you say it's excellent. Whoa, what a coincidence, maybe I'm your sock puppet. Tirid Tirid 15:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Robert R. Ruffolo, Jr
Hey -- just so you know, {{db-copyvio}} is only for articles that are ripped off from websites trying to make money off of the copied content. This certainly doesn't seem to be the case here, so I changed to a regular {{copyvio}} tag. Also, even with {{db-copyvio}}, you should remove the copyvio content from the article. It's better to have questionable material off the pages than on them while we decide. Mangojuicetalk 16:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I see.^^ Sciurinæ
It's been changed now so it's not just commercial sites. Tyrenius 00:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Numa Numa
Nice little bit of vandal reversion and warning. Tyrenius 00:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- Well, thank you. Sciurinæ 09:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Federation of Expellees article
Hi Sciurinae,
I think your addition to the article regarding the court decision is way too vague. Please provide an English translation of the German website that you referenced and, in particular, I think we should at least provide the phrasing that the court approved. I would even go so far as to suggest that we consider putting in the phrasing that was ruled against. (It's a sort of difficult question. It may be libel to state that X is true. However, IMO, it is not libel to state that the court ruled that stating "X is true" is libellous. I'm not a lawyer, though, so I may be wrong.
For further expansion of my argument, see the comment that I made on Wikipedia talk:Libel.
Thanx.
--Richard 03:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- The original source for the sentence was Lesser's press release (ger.). In the fourth paragraph she didn't elaborate on what the concrete sentence that she was forbidden to repeat was, either, but revealed that she somehow misquoted Steinbach: she wrote "bomber" instead of "fighter plane" or sth like that and somehow cited "Western values" before "human rights" (I didn't quite get that). In the second paragraph she wrote what she is still allowed to state: "Als der Bundestag 1999 beschloss, in Berlin ein Mahnmal für die ermordeten Juden Europas zu errichten, forderte Erika Steinbach, dass auch die deutschen Vertriebenen ihr Mahnmal in Berlin bekommen müssten." (roughly translated: "When the lower house of the German Parliament decided to erect a memorial for the murdered Jews of Europe in 1999, Erika Steinbach demanded that the German expellees must get their memorial in Berlin, too.") I wasn't really interested in expanding upon the paragraph but it needed to be updated because the previous state implied that the "recent" court proceedings were still going on, which is definitely not the case. I understand that here my briefness was clearly at the expanse of clarity ;-) But actually right now I can't think of any solution to keep it that brief but make it lesss vague at the same time. Sciurinæ 09:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bot
I'm not sure what you mean. The bot account is simply a way to avoid sky-rocketing my own stats, as I use WP:AWB there, not some fancy bot. Which means that every single edit is being approved by me before it is made, it's by no means automatic. Besides, the account has been approved by some admin (no idea whom it was) who added me to the list of users to be allowed to use the ABW. Is there any other page where I should list it? //Halibutt 21:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- So if it is just manually operated, it's not a real bot. "bots are automatic processes". To avoid any confusion, you could explain it on the bot's userpage, which you've done now, well, and since it doesn't work automatically, its chic Emergency bot shutoff button is redundant. I don't think you need to list Halibott anywhere. Sciurinæ 08:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks for the vandalism revertion :) --Fr3nZi3 01:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please consider also warning vandals
Thank you for reverting vandalism on Wikipedia. Could you also please consider using our vandal warning system [9]? First offenses get a "test1," then a "test2," followed by a "test3" and "test4." At the end of this, if the vandal persists, he or she merits blocking for a period of time. If you do this, it will greatly help us in decreasing vandalism on Wikipedia. Much thanks, -- Kukini 16:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you but please consider taking my contributions into account - and you'll see that I already do often actually use warning templates - before you ask me to consider using warning templates at all. Sciurinæ 17:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism reversion
I just noticed that you reverted some vandalism by 72.74.210.124 to my userpage. Thanks for that. Tonywalton | Talk 09:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: No personal attacks
Space Cadet, I'm sick of the insults coming from you. Yes, I've told you before trying to be polite after you had made a not-so-polite comment on Talk:Kaliningrad. What happened was you just removed my request as "PA". Your new comment at talk:Kaliningrad was no better. You should know WP:NPA very, very well by now. But still you topped the PA by adding another uncalled-for insinuation, "biased, one track minded, pseudohistorian who has nothing better to do, but to judge people he barely knows". I'd sincerly liked to refer it WP:AN/I, yet it is suggested that "Personal attacks should be reported at the personal attack intervention noticeboard", who in turn demand the user to be warned first. All right: Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by administrators or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. Sciurinæ 00:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Sciurinæ, I'm on the other hand sick of your know-it-all, judgmental attitude. Sca's behind my back, weasel attack on me was completely uncalled for, unsubstantiated and unprovoked in any reasonable way. In the past me and Sca never had any conflict, except normal civilized discussions. I even admired his objectivism, ability to find compromise and his tendency to remain calm in stressful situations. Then all of a sudden he comes out of the blue and without any action from me against him, he goes ahead and calls me an ultra nationalist. Doesn't even have the decency of coming to my Talk page and explain his opinion on me, but without any explanation he goes on another page and starts name calling to discredit somebody else's intentions. Think about it before you post crap on my Talk page. Space Cadet 10:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I had no idea of your good relationship with Sca, not even now (see, I only saw messages like [10]. Glad to know I missed some updates, didn't I?). If you felt I sat in judgment over you with the comment, sorry, I did not intend to judge you for the sake of judging you, rather to be able to refer the next matter to someone else. Sciurinæ 11:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- ...er, what? Space Cadet 21:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
I just noticed you fixed some vandalism to my userpage 5 days ago. Thanks! Here's a flower for your efforts. - Mgm|(talk) 15:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Expulsion of Germans after World War II
Hi, I think there is an interesting and possibly positive development going on at Talk:Expulsion of Germans after World War II. I wonder if you'd spare a minute to take a look at it before the discussion gets too long and difficult to follow. If you can, try to read starting from the "Thoughts about future directions for this article" section to see what's it about. Your help/comments would be appreciated. --Lysytalk 19:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I'm not sure whether I'll have enough time for that now and in the next few days or so because it looks like some knowledge about merging, moving and naming of content should be aquired first. Sciurinæ 14:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism/NPA
There was an attack against you here. I already warned the user of NPA, but since you already warned him, you might want to report him. But I'll leave that up for you to decide.--Ed ¿Cómo estás? 02:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- The user was blocked. Here's a Barnstar!--Ed ¿Cómo estás? 03:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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The Purple Star | |
| For enduring all of the vandalism and NPA on your userpage while keeping a cool head =). --Ed ¿Cómo estás? 03:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC) |
[edit] Removal of Slashdoc
Slashdoc.com isn't a reputable website but was reported to contain "scholarly essays." I came upon this website when doing research on Brave New World and was appalled at the quality of the "essays" contained on the site. The website allows anyone to post anything that they want, with very few, if any, cited references, and there is nothing scholarly about it. It was formally known at A+ Essays and seems to be a site that people would use to plagiarize school reports or papers. I plan to take down the rest of the links when I have the time. Although there may be some quality information contained on the website, this is mixed in with too much misinformation and conjecture by amateurs without citing to be linked with a Wikipedia article. This site can be very misleading to those who do not know much about the work in question. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Torisuna (talk • contribs) 19:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
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