Talk:Schleswig-Holstein Question

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Many Wikipedia users prefer to avoid having tags at the tops of articles, particularly if they aren't relevant to readers. Consider using these tags sparingly, and use the talk pages to discuss how to merge articles where it's not obvious whether or how the articles should be merged. 217.140.193.123 4 July 2005 17:02 (UTC)

[edit] Merger: yes or no?

  • In the History of Schleswig-Holstein, the problematics of 1840's-1860's (which, after all, is only a few decades of a history of thousand years), has taken disproportionately big space. In other histories, special questions or eras have received own articles. Why not allow it here? There is much else in the province's history, and all that should not be dwarfed. Therefore, I think I am for not merging these articles. 217.140.193.123 3 July 2005 09:36 (UTC)
You are right, but I think both articles need to be heavily rearranged, which seems like a lot of work. Martg76 4 July 2005 20:24 (UTC)
What Marg76 said. There is lots of good information on all these pages, and they need lots of work. But the current titles are just fine, and the S–H Question is a valid and common entry in encyclopedias and history books. Oppose the merge (although without zeal). Arbor 5 July 2005 11:48 (UTC)
  • Since it was me who added the merge tags in the first place, I am now replacing them with the more appropriate cleanup tags. Martg76 6 July 2005 21:58 (UTC)
I've put merger-tags back in, even though clean-up may be more appropriate. There are too many double infos, even within one article, and the more important issues and results are hidden behind lots of details. --Matthead 06:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Although I oppose the merge, whether it ultimately occurs or not, it will probably be easier to edit these articles into shape separately before trying to merge them, since the amount of detail in each seems appropriate for the interest level in each. Lethiere 01:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Much of the history of Schleswig-Holstein has a bearing on this question: see history of Schleswig-Holstein for details.

and merged what bits of the history matter was not duplicate. Anthony Appleyard 14:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup issues

  • Notices that parts of this article seem to have written or translated by a non-native speaker. Caravaca 10:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I have spell checked the article and tried to make sense of a few garbled meanings. The source for this article is a bad OCR scan of Encyclopedia Britannica. Thuresson 22:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The Schleswig-Holstein question might have been thus early settled but for Valdemar's ill fortune in being taken prisoner in 1223. During his captivity his governor was beaten at Molln by Count Adolf III, to whom Valdemar restored his countship as the price of his own release. A papal dispensation from oaths taken, under duress excused a new war; but Valdemar himself was beaten at Bornhövede on July 22, 1227, and Holstein was permanently secured to the house of Schauenburg.

Were the governor and Valdemar physically beaten (whipped or something?) or were they defeated in battle? Nloth 23:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What happened between 1472 and 1767?

Currently we have one paragraph ending: Finally, in 1472 the emperor Frederick III confirmed Christian I's overlordship over Dithmarschen and erected Dithmarschen, Holstein and Stormarn into the duchy of Holstein.

The next paragraph begins: In 1760's the duchies' rulers of Russia had no interest in maintaining their part of Holstein and their confused and disputed common rights in Jutland, and in 1767 the empress Catherine II resigned them...

What happened? How did Russia get involved? Nloth 23:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

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