Talk:Saxons

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Does this mean Englishmen and North Germans are ethnically one & the same ???

No. Ethnicities often decide themselves because of historical, cultural, political, geographical and linguistic issues. It only means that Saxons were one of the component progenitors (along with Angles, Jutes, Frisians, etc.) of Anglo-Saxons. - Gilgamesh 07:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Well I would say that they are connected, as they are part of the overal Germanic Ethnic Group (Yes the English are Germanic, due to liguistics, culture and history)...however to say the English are Northern Germans is slightly incorrect (As the people that became Anglo-Saxons were from the Netherlands, Northern Germany and Denmark...which all have different albeit connected identities). Some would disagree with this however I am afraid they are mistaken and/or guided by nationalistic biases!

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[edit] Laender

I'm a native German speaker and wonder if "Today's Laender Nordrhein-Westfalen" is correct English? At least it's not correct German because Laender (or Länder) ist the plural of Land and Nordrhein-Westfalen is just one federal state of Germany. --217.229.88.91 15:08, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Invasion of Britain

This needs to be cleaned up a bit. Most historians AFAIK believe the Roman withdrawal happened some time before the Saxon conquest, something like 50-100 years. In the interim Britain was ruled by Romanized Britons speaking British (i.e. Welsh).

As well, the whole "Hengest and Horsa" bit has to be taken with a grain of salt. Many believe that one or both of these were mythological figures. --Saforrest 18:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, British is more 'Old Welsh'. I have amended the section to remove the idea that the Britons fled in the face of the Teutons and replaced it with the accepted historical account, that the Britons were absorbed into England. Enzedbrit 04:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Culture?

Shouldn't there be some description of saxon culture? This really doesn't give a good picture of who the saxons were, just what they did. (82.12.202.32 20:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC))

I agree with the culture question above. You wouldn't 'just' invade and colonize. There was something built into the culture (like the vikings?) that encouraged invasion and colonization. Also, there must have been a decent economy to help support the invasions. An economy that was better that the invaded area?

[edit] Saxons are Scythians?

I think saxons are scythians considering their traditions and similarity .Interestingly english oe german is quite close to Marathi,an Indo-European language .Marathas are also considered as probable descendents of scythians.They also professed more or less same warlike culture .kasar59.184.152.183 09:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Romanian Saxons

This is misleading. The Romanians distinguish between three types of Germans in Romania: Saxons (Saşi), Austrians and Swabians. I have edited accordingly.GordyB 12:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)