Talk:Saw (film series)
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[edit] Saw (MySpace Edition)
What about an article about the MySpace edition of Saw? Of course the numbers signify the date of the third movie release, but hey, doesn't it at least deserve some kind of mention?--216.249.145.229 15:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
It is probably not that significant to mention here, and even if it is then maybee in the Saw III article itself. But it would be good as an external link. Maybee an External Links section is needed here to include this among other links. Jarryd Moore
[edit] Timeline
What do people think about adding a Saaw timeline? Something like this:
- John Kramer is diagnosed with a frontal lobe tumour.
- After learning of the bad news, John tries to kill himself by driving himself off a cliff, only to survive and get a new perspective of life.
- After waiting in the hospital, he begins to notice so many people that seem unappreciative for the life they've been granted, such as Dr. Lawrence Gorden, an orderly named "Zep" Hindell, Paul (A man who slashed his wrists), Amanda Young (A drug addict who overdosed on heroin), and Lynn Denlon (A nurse who seemed dead on the inside while taking anti-depressants).
- John makes it a goal to find a way to test people in vicious traps to see if they're deserving of their life. He begins to neglect meals and sleep to complete his traps and tests.
- John kidnaps his first three victims, Paul, Amanda, and Mark (A man who claims he is ill and unable to work). Paul and Mark fail their tests, but Amanda manages to complete hers successfully. She escapes and is interrogated before being confronted by "Jigsaw". She hands her life to him to become his apprentice and continue on his life work if and when he dies.
- With the help of Amanda, Jigsaw kidnaps Adam Faulkner (A man who follows and takes pictures of others for money), and Lawrence Gordon. Both of them fail their specific tests, but Lawrence still manages to saw his foot off and leave. Adam, now alone, is locked away in the dark bathroom to rot forever.
- Amanda, shaken with guilt, sneaks into the bathroom to put Adam out of his misery.
- Jigsaw kidnaps Michael (A police informant), and places him in a trap, also starting a trap for Eric Mattews (A detective known for setting up criminals) by leaving him a message.
- Jigsaw kidnaps Obi (A man who "burns others with his lies"), Xavier (A drug dealer), Jonas, Laura, Gus, Addison, and Daniel Matthews (Detective Matthews' son). He puts them all in a large, sealed house filled with nerve gas and traps. With them, he puts Amanda in to keep Daniel alive.
- Everyone but Amanda and Daniel dies in the house. Daniel is placed in a safe in Jigsaw's lair.
- Eric Matthews and his SWAT team arrive at Jigsaw's lair, and intend on arresting him before he informs Eric that his son is in the house. He proposes a deal: All Eric has to do to get his son back in a safe state is listen to Jigsaw.
- Eric fails his test and beats Jigsaw to within an inch of his life before he is taken to the nerve gas house, believing that his son is still inside. There, he finds the bathroom in the foundation of the house, and is attacked by Amanda, who knocks him out and chains him to a pipe before closing the door and informing him that she is taking over the role of Jigsaw.
- Eric manages to break his foot and escape the chain, confronting Amanda in the hallway outside of the bathroom. Their, instead of forgiving him and helping him escape, she kicks him in his broken foot and leaves him to rot.
- Jigsaw's condition worsens, and he is on the verge of death. With the help of Amanda, he begins his last tests.
- Amanda begins her own traps, kidnapping Troy (A man who continues to go back to prison), and leaving him in a trap to which their is no escape. Amanda then kidnaps Kerry (A detective who studies Jigsaw and his methods), leaving her in a trap that, once again, has no escape.
- Amanda then kidnaps Jeff Reinhart (A man who's been dwelling on his son's death for the past 3 years), Lynn (A woman who takes anti-depressants to bear with her family), Danica Scott (The only witness to Jeff's son's death), Judge Halden (The judge presiding over Jeff's son's murder), and Tim Young (The drunk driver who hit Jeff's son), all players in Jigsaw's last test.
- Lynn is forced to keep Jigsaw alive long enough to see Jeff make it through his series of tests. Amanda begins growing jealous.
- Jeff is forced to wander through a warehouse, finding Danica in a trap of her own. He has the choice to help her, which he tries to do, but fails.
- Jeff then finds Judge Halden in another trap, to which Jeff manages to save him from.
- Lynn begins operating on Jigsaw's brain, temporarily keeping him alive a bit longer.
- Jeff and Judge Halden find the last trap in the warehouse: Tim, the drunk driver who killed Jeff's son. While trying to save him, Jeff accidentally shoots Halden in the head, and fails to unlock the device in time to save Tim.
- With Jeff done his warehouse traps, Jigsaw orders Amanda to remove Lynn's trap. Amanda refuses, and rebels against Jigsaw, stating that nobody ever learns anything from his traps. She shoots Lynn in the stomach just as Jeff leaves the warehouse and enters Jigsaw's lair. Seeing this, he uses his only bullet to shoot Amanda in the neck. Jigsaw informs her that it was another test for her, to see if she could cope with the pressure of carrying on his life's work. It is revealed that Jeff was Lynn's husband.
- Amanda bleeds to death while Jigsaw gives Jeff a choice to either kill him or forgive him. Jeff, in a fit of rage, slits Jigsaw's throat with a circular saw blade, not knowing that if he dies, Lynn's trap will automatically kill her. Jigsaw plays a tape for Jeff, revealing that his daughter is somewhere, with a limited air supply. The exits to the warehouse slam shut as Jigsaw flatlines, and Lynn's head is blown apart by her trap, leaving Jeff alone in the warehouse.
JackOfHearts 00:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think the fact that the film series has each movie follow on from the last (i.e. a continuous story) makes a timeline a good idea. The only criticism i have is some of the detail. Maybee a smaller and less intracate account of events would be better in giving an overview of the events, especialy considering each movie has its own article that goes into more detail about the movie. Jarryd Moore 13:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Mmk, what could be trimmed? JackOfHearts 05:04, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Saw IV
If and when Saw IV were to be made (And apparently it is...) wouldn't it come out on the 27th of October next year (Friday) instead of the 26th (Thursday)? JackOfHearts 09:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Characters
Seeing the rise in the number of character pages, I would like to suggest that a minor characters page (i.e. List of Characters in the Saw Films) be made. Any objections or suggestions? --Spencer "The Belldog" Bermudez | (Complain here) 12:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's been made: List of Saw Characters. JackOfHearts 23:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thematic discrepancy
Perhaps the article should mention the fact that Zep does not fit with Jigsaw's rationale for choosing his victims. He supposedly chooses victims who take their lives for granted, but Zep goes out of his way to point out Dr. Gordon's "clinical" treatment of Kramer (Jigsaw), and the fact that Gordon knows nothing of the man as a person. The fact that he is an orderly who does this in front of a resident doctor who is lecturing interns and is possibly jeopardizing his job by doing so is important. Maybe this should be put in a "Criticism of the Series" section or something, but it does not fit with Jigsaw's supposed rationale of choosing victims who "take their lives for granted." If nothing else this is a thematic discrepancy on the part of the writers and/or director, and should be pointed out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.191.24.143 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC).
