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[edit] Ableton Live

I just added a section on Sasha's present use of Ableton Live for his live sets. He seems to be the first major DJ routinely mixing with a computer instead of decks, so it really sets him apart from other DJ's. This is my first major edit, so I hope it's appropriate! — Nogard5 20:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are there any citations for this?--Paul E. Ester 16:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


It is widely known in the EDM community that sasha uses Live, ive seen his monitors and he was running Live, plus there's a lot of pictures on the net with him using it, pluus pluus, I think is mentioned on Ableton's site. Ivand Olivero 21:16, 4 June 2006 (EST)
  • I'm doing some major rewriting, sourcing and everything. If anyone has any especially useful links to articles/interviews or whatever involving Sasha, that'd be great. Info regarding Sasha and Digweed's relationship, touring, and stuff about Sasha's youth would be especially useful. Wickethewok 22:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Draft

I put up what I have so far. I realize that the citations aren't in the correct format, but I will fix that in later versions. Any resources, online articles, other sourced information, etc. would be awesome! Wickethewok 22:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Okies, I completed what I needed to do on my subpage, so this is no longer undergoing a rewrite elsewhere. Wickethewok 21:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Nomination

I've nominated this for Good Article for hopes of feedback and getting some recognition for it. The peer review didn't generate any user feedback aside from automated feedback. I'd like to get this up to FA status, but can't really do that if I never get any feedback/other editors involved in this. Wickethewok 03:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I saw your comment and just thought i'd say that you haven't done anything wrong by nominating it for a GA, just taking a cursory glance at it, the article seems GA worthy, but since its at the top of the list, it wouldn't be fair for me to immedietly review it :/. Homestarmy 05:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nominee

I would pass this as a good article but it has two major problems: (1) The second lead paragraph is totally POV. Lead paragraphs summarize teh article. (2) The "Influence" section in only one paragraph, and really should be merged with the Early Years section, since it is expansion (and retread) or that topic.--Esprit15d 18:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Heya thanks for the feedback. I merged the "Influence" section throughout to appropriate locations. I also attempted to fix the second lead paragraph. Please tell me if you have any further suggestions. Wickethewok 18:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] date format

according to the manual of style the birthdate should be in () like:

  • Serena Williams (born September 26, 1981)

Course it's pretty dorky to read:

  • Sasha, born Alexander Coe (born September 4, 1969), is a Welsh DJ

What about:

  • Alexander Coe (AKA Sasha) (born September 4, 1969), is a Welsh DJ

I think the way it is written now would imply Sasha is his legal name which I don't think you've indicated, and is it more normally dj sasha or just sasha? The disambigulation page implies dj sasha.

BTW amazing work with the article so far. thanks. --Paul E. Ester 19:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


  • Hmm, well, Sasha is a common nickname or a "diminutive version" of "Alexander", so I think Esprit15d's change to
Alexander "Sasha" Coe (born September 4, 1969)

is consistent with nicknames (I've never read anything that's lead me to believe he actually legally changed his name. Most often in articles I've read, CDs/records, and such, he is almost always referred to as "Sasha" as opposed to "DJ Sasha". I don't think any of his mix album covers/credits have ever called him "DJ Sasha". As a side note, over the past ten years or so, prefacing your name/artist name with "DJ" has become a bit passe. Wickethewok 20:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Nom

Good article, nicely referenced, good writing, but most of the images need (better) fair use rationales. -Dark Kubrick 15:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Alritey, I'll write in some more detailed descriptions of fair use. Wickethewok 18:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Okies, I think I've written some fair-use claims up to the par of music bio FAs/GAs I've looked at. Wickethewok 19:02, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The album covers and DVD need better ones I think. -Dark Kubrick 19:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Are they sufficient now? Thanks for your help guys! Wickethewok 21:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm satisfied. -Dark Kubrick 06:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Awesome. I re-classified this from GA-actors to GA-bands as I think thats a more accurate description of a DJ. If anyone thinks I'm mistaken feel free to change it. Wickethewok 23:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Doesn't seem to be listed at Wikipedia:Good articles... (I was going to fix the link). Or am I somehow missing it? --kingboyk 16:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I guess the guy who passed it forgot to put it in there? I just added it there. Wickethewok 16:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auto Peer Review

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  • Alrite, I fixed all the stuff I could find. I removed a good deal of redundancies I couldn't find any years with full dates that weren't linked properly, nor could I find any inappropriately placed footnotes. Could someone point me to them? Wickethewok 04:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Footnotes 1-4 all have issues :). They should go immediatly after the punctiation. Go ahead and strike out stuff above when its complete. -Ravedave (help name my baby) 04:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Thank you muchly. I think I got everything except whatever the date linking issue may be. Wickethewok 05:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

  • "Sasha" is a Russian nickname for Alexander that his mother called him. I'm not sure how/if this should be mentioned in the article. Wickethewok 19:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] COMMENTS IN ALL CAPS FROM ANON EDITOR

  • JAMES ZABIELA INFLUENCED KIMBALL COLLINS? CLEARLY THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE IS COMPLETELY CLUELESS, HAS NO SENSE OF TIME (OR THE FACT THAT COLLINS WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF HIS SUCCESS WHEN ZABIELA WAS STILL AT SCHOOL), AND PROBABLY WROTE THIS WHOLE PAGE AFTER READING A FEW BOOKS!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.11.80.36 (talkcontribs).
  • Yes, I did write it after reading a few books. And online articles. And listening to Sasha's music for the past 10 years. I did fix the line in question - I can see how it was misleading. Collins was clearly popular before any influence from Sasha, which is why Collins is described as "already popular". As for whether or not Sasha in fact had an influence on Collins, I suggest you take that up with Bill Brewster, who wrote the book I got that from. Wickethewok 16:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncited info from anon

  • There was recently added info added by an anon editor. I am removing it as I can't find any sources for it. Wickethewok 18:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)