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[edit] The American Cato?
Wikipedia:List of encyclopedia topics/Biographies A lists Samuel Adams as having the nickname, "The American Cato."
However, there is presently nothing about "The American Cato" in this article. Would anyone care to research this and add it?
Kevyn 07:39, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
[edit] article moved
I moved Samuel Adams (American revolutionary) here because he had by far the largest number of incoming links: see [1] (after I changed the links to that page), compare to [2], [3], [4], and [5]. —No-One Jones (m) 18:09, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Differing viewpoints
Just a question to put out there, and before doing any editing i thought i would ask it. There are opposing views of Sam Adams' role in various events leading up the American Revolution, and this article tends to be more biased towards the "Sam Adams intentionally instigated (event)". For example the article states he organised the Boston Tea Party, whereas there is actually speculation as to whether he really wanted the event to happen and that he have tried preventing it. In light of this, i suggest a few minor edits to the article, or alternatively, a subheading could be placed at the end of the birography discussing these oppising interpretations. This is in the interest of balance and transparency. Lawson
- As long as you have sources to back up your edits, go ahead. Also, please remember to sign next time using four tiles (~~~~)--TBC
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[edit] Sons of Liberty
I am removing an anonymous addtion. Its format and placeent are bad, even if the material is good. I cannoy recommend the link but, with improvement, the material might go in the article. Lou I 13:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Removed material:
(After failing as a brewer and newspaper publisher, Adams found that his chief preoccupation, politics, was his true calling. Following lengthy experience in Boston town affairs, he rose to prominence in the Massachusetts assembly during the opposition to the Stamp Act in 1765. An organizer of Boston's Sons of Liberty, he played a key role from 1765 until the end of the War of Independence in Patriot opposition to what Adams believed was a British plot to destroy constitutional liberty.) from http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/ah_001100_adamssamuel.htm
[edit] Concluding Sentence
The final sentence really bothers me: "Samuel liked young schoolchildren, he wanted them to be present at his funeral; his daughter refused, as she didn't want them to miss school."
I changed a comma to a semicolon to make it more grammatical, but I feel like the sentence really needs to be reworked or deleted. As written, it hints at the perverse. Did Samuel Adams like "young schoolchildren" in the manner of Miss America? Or in the manner of Lewis Carroll? Or in the manner of John Wayne Gacy?
This is my first edit at Wikipedia, so I thought I'd comment first, before just deleting the sentence.
- I agree that it sounds odd and ambiguous. Also, I hadn't heard that before so I would like confirmation that it is true, anyone have a source for this? Welcome to wikipedia Idahogie, thanks for the edit, I hope you enjoy the stay. You can sign you posts by typing four tilde (~) characters in a row, it will replace it with your username and the date/time, like this: Lorax 02:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Concluding Sentence Removed
As it's been about two weeks with no objection, I've deleted the following sentence: "Samuel liked young schoolchildren, he wanted them to be present at his funeral; his daughter refused, as she didn't want them to miss school."
PS. Thanks for the tip, Lorax.
Idahogie 19:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Patriot: Adams fits the definition
The Dictionary (Webster's 3rd) defines Patriot as: one who advocates or promotes the independence of his native soil or people from the country or union of countries of which it is a part (as a colony). Fits Sam Adams perfectly. (The Loyalists did NOT call themselves Patriots.) Rjensen 02:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More quotes?
I would like to add some more quotes to the samuel adams entry to help give it more depth. Feloniousd 04:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Posted the following quotes to entry on Samuel Adams:
"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions" --Samuel Adams, Debates of the Massachusetts Convention of 1788
"Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in matters of conscience, direct their course to this happy country as their last asylum." --Samuel Adams, Speech, 1 August 1776
Source for both was liberty-tree.ca [[6]]
I'm an infrequent editor, so I'm sorry for any breach of convention. Please contact me if there are issues with my edit. Feloniousd 04:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Am I right in assuming that, a quote that is not recorded by the the man himself on paper should be labled as "atributed", and if possible by whom? For instance; "blah blah blah" --atributed to Samuel Adams by Jon Doe at his grandmother's funeral, 1783 Feloniousd 04:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Added another quote; "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
if anyone knows the source text let me know
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- "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men" = The Writings of Samuel Adams - Page 213
by Samuel Adams - 1904 online at [7] Rjensen 20:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] what where his siblings?
What were Sam Adam's siblings? I can't find it anywhere, thank you.
Like many who were born during the 18th century, Samuel Adams was the only surviving child of his parents. They had 13 children in all-Adams was the youngest. As I understood it, the children died in infancy and in early childhood. Some of them were not named I believe.
Finding out information on Samuel Adams' early and personal life online can be difficult. I had to hunt for sometimes to find out the names of his first wife and his children. I did read in one of his biographies that he had a son of the same name that was a doctor and after some tweaking and googling I found references to him. Many things tend to be centered around his life just before, during and a little bit after the Revolutionary War.
Hopefully in the future Samuel Adams will get the same type of resuscitation that his cousin John has enjoyed.
Ladydayelle 15:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
