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Sam Spade 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Hi Salleman and welcome to Wikipedia. You're doing good work on the Scandinavian folklore section and I am glad to see you fill in sections that I have written but that I have not had the time to flesh out. Usually people come and write something off the back of their head, but I can see that you do quality additions. Good job and again welcome.--Wiglaf 11:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I saw that you have uploaded a Troll image. I hope that you're sure that it is not copyrighted, and you should add a tag about its copyright status.--Wiglaf 13:12, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Nix article

YOu just made extensive additions to the Nix article, with the edit comment "Made some research." If you got this information from somewhere, please cite your sources inside the article so we know where this information comes from. It's always hard to tell what information to take seriously or not, because it could have just been made up, it could come from a not very reliable source, or it could be from an expert, but we can;t tell because it doesn't say. If you did research than you ought to be able to fill in the details with references who say each of the things you claim. Thanks. DreamGuy 17:15, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Askefruer

You'd better take a look one what I've done with the Askefruer page, and re-edit it if I have gone to far. I don't want to be rude to fellow Wikipedians.
Great addition, Salleman. I think you have made it into a very interesting article. Perhaps it should be made known more publicly on Wikipedia since it shows the repercussions of Wikipedia articles in popular culture.--Wiglaf 07:30, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fascisten

"Eftersom den fascistoida, 21-åriga idioten och tillika moderatorn Grillo hade mage att radera de bilder jag lagt upp på animeartikeln utan så mycket som en rad diskussion (de var promotionmaterial, och därför fair use, ifall någon undrar) ämnar jag härmed avsluta min alltför korta tid som författare på svenska wikipedia."

Det har ingen betydelse, fairusebilder accepteras INTE på svenska Wikipedia, det är det inte jag som bestämt, det är allmänt bestämt. Igår rensade jag bort samtliga fairusebilder som inte var logotyper från svenska Wikipedia, gilla det eller inte, men så är det. Du kan skicka vilka personangrepp du vill efter mig, men det förändrar inte det faktum att jag helt enkelt gjorde både dig och svenska Wikipedia en tjänst igår. /Grillo 21:22, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

If the powers that be on Swedish Wikipedia has decided that fair use images should not be accepted over there, then that idiocy is a reason as good as anyone to abandon that particular branch of the project. Salleman
Because the law "fair use" doesn't exist in Swedish law? /Grillo 21:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
You could have made a number of things, better than deleting every single fair use image on sv-Wikipedia. You could have made categories similar to fair use which applies in Sweden, e.g. promotional image in this particular case; alternatively, you could have put the fair use images on US servers, sending some kind of compensation to the yanks for the cost of hardware space. Anything would have been better than to waste all the work people have put in placing those images there. Salleman 22:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  1. No, because we've come to the conclusion that it's better to simply not use fair use pictures since the law doesn't exist. The logotypes will probably be taken care of later.
  2. Which US servers? Firstly, the Swedish Wikipedia is on a American server, still, it's not clear what law is in effect if something illegal happens. Secondly, if you're referring to Wikipedia Commons, they don't accept fair use pictures, since everything can be considered "fair use" with enough fantasy.
  3. Wikipedia is "the free encyclopedia", that means not only that it's free to read, but also that it's free to copy and use for whatever means chosen. That's not possible with a lot of unfree pictures on the servers.

Let this go, if you don't want to use Sv Wikipedia, don't, but don't attack my person, argue at a better place why the pictures should stay. Why are we speaking English? /Grillo 01:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Fine, I won't discuss this any longer and I won't contribute to sv-Wikipedia anymore. It was obviously wrong to accuse you specifically. You COULD however have posted a link in "Edit summary" to the relevant discussion instead of zip explanation, and I would not have mistaken your action for that of a power-abusing moderator. We're speaking English on the English language Wikipedia. Nothing is more annoying than seeing some debate in Polish or Japanese or whatever and not being able to figure out if it's relevant or not.

[edit] The martall images

Yeah, I could have moved the images to a new external links section, but the better picture is on some private homepage and those tend to be fairly unstable (i.e. may be gone tomorrow). What we really need are pictures under a free license. But if you feel strongly about it, feel free to create the external links section and add the links there. Rl 18:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks! And, by the way, despite the fact that every attempt of mine to create an artical fails, I love this place and would never leave. However, I think you should have a little talk with DreamGuy, who thinks my articals are a bunch of trash and is tossing them in the wastebasket left and right. Here is my artical history:

  • Toy Story Characters: My attemp at giving the Toy Story characters better descriptions to make up for the lousy ones I find elsewhere (no offence to whoever put the bios on the Toy Story page). Unfortunatlly, all my info was erased and the artical was made a rediretion to the Toy Story page.

Oh, and thanks. You and UtherSRG are alot of help. At least I have some friends here (gives DreamGuy an angry glare) GTG! Bye!

P.S. In case you don't know, GTG means "got to go." --Wack'd About Wiki 08:49, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Never mind about the whole DreamGuy thing. It was someone else...oops! --Wack'd About Wiki 08:49, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

P.S.: Thank you, but if you'd like, I can just copy the old page onto my userpage, so that way, you can delete the old one and I'll still have it, but PLEASE, DO NOT DO THIS WITHOUT WARNING, FOR I WILL NOT DO IT OTHERWISE, AND THEN YOU'LLDELETE IT AND I WON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE. Thank you.

P.S.S.: How do you post pictures? I tried once and it didn't work.

[edit] Thanks! Again!

Thanks you for the image thing, but how do I know what the name of a picture so I can upload it?

I mean the file image name, not the caption.

I don't upload files directly on to my computer, I copy and paste them on to Microsoft documents. So what I'm saying is, what if I don't know what the jpg or png name is?

What I'm saying is, what if I don't remember the file name?

Image:Thank you.jpg

[edit] Friends?

On my userpage, I listed us as friends. Since you're helping me out regularly, and I can ask you stuff without feeling like an idiot, that makes us friends, right? I made a mistake before (ask UtherSRG. Even though I shouldn't have assumed, we're friends now, but I can't help feeling really idiotic about the whole thing. On second though, plese don't ask her!). --Wack'd About Wiki 19:10, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm a he. *grins* - UtherSRG 20:11, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, it's just, I saw your first name was Stacey and I thought it was a girl's name. Now I feel like an idiot all over again! --Wack'd About Wiki 23:16, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Changeling

I've restored the Cleanup tag. It's most certainly not unnecessary; the article needs work. Exploding Boy 20:23, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vampire

Hi

I have posted an answer to your query re the FA nomination of this article on Wikipedia talk:Featured articles. Hope this is helpful. Filiocht | Blarneyman 09:00, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Troll

Thanks for revising my amateur-like natural troll story. I am a beginner at Wikipedia, so please sorry for this. When I saw the ineteresting Troll page, I remembered the picture I took in 2002. The Troll can be found at the coast of the island of Hamnaroey (opposite to the Lofoten) at Postion 68 07´N 15 24´ E. Access to this area requires some climbing along the coastline rocks. The Troll can not allways be seen. Sometimes the waterfall increases so much, that his face is completely covered. Hope, this helps.

[edit] Some thoughts on mythological articles

Thank you for the compliments. Semi-correct information seems to be the most common kind in articles about Norse mythology. When the sources are sparse I feel it is simplest to quote them in toto and, for the most part, let the reader draw her own conclusions. While discussing the Norse mythological figures one can more or less go through a checklist of evidence.

  • Prose Edda
  • Poetic Edda
  • Gesta Danorum
  • Skaldic poetry
  • Place names
  • Linguistic evidence

Sometimes we have other sources, like the odd Swedish rune carving or Faroese ballad or Danish folk song or European historical work. Then we should by all means mention those.

The point is to cite the sources and keep them separate. Haukurth 01:15, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] krill

hallo Salleman! thanks for the help - can you please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates#Antarctic_krill maybe help with some editing / formatting / vote - best greetings to fine Sweden (I was often there, we are from Germany originally and miss Europa a lot - maybe you can help moving some more to the Danish, Norwegian or Swedish krill site Uwe Kils 21:39, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thank you everybody

I would like to express my thanks to everybody helping in the nomination of Antarctic krill. I think 3 1/2 supports and a long long discussion are an unexpected and great outcome for a critter so remote and unknown - you should see how little and poor Antarctic krill is represented in Encarta and Britannica - this is the best reviewed and resourced general article of krill we know of - it is impossible to fullfill all wishes at the same time - this is what we did with our all product peer review stamp to qualify this stage of the article for academic exercises, especially for our dreams of a Virtual university within Wikiversity - good luck to you all Uwe Kils 21:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos!

You've been doing a great job fixing mythological articles. :) Haukurth 01:13, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] response from London

Uwe wants to share this with you (from his talk page):

[edit] Hello Kils

Just would like to state that i have very much enjoyed being involved in a project of this nature. To see the speed of co-operation between various people was (Uwe, Lupo and Salleman and all others) fantastic. It was a complete buzz to go off researching about a scientific subject and coming to some understanding and appreciation of a creature that i would have no knowledge or interest in otherwise. I would like to say that it takes a damn good teacher to get others interested in what they teach and i for one, if only in a rudimentary and general way have found the subject of Krill and sorrounding issues of ecology and environment fascinating. I think that says a lot about your willingness to let others participate in something which you obviously have great knowledge in and could easily have been a lot less humble with. At some point i will put up some informtion on my home page so at least people know a little more about me. Am going to try to extend the article on Ice-algae so any info you may have would be good. I hope the article on Antartic Krill gets featured as i think it is now very good.

Wikiversity sounds like a good idea but will need more time to go through the proposal (not too sure what help i could be).

Once again thanks Uwe! Yakuzai 22:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

that feels good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Antarctic_krill

did you see who gave the picture of the day? take care Uwe Kils Image:heringmini.jpg 23:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Do You Know How...

...to create a sub-artical? --Wack'd About Wiki 23:40, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Er, never mind, someone else told me. Sorry for the disrupption. --Wack'd About Wiki 09:55, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Face templates

What are your face templates for?? Georgia guy 20:35, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Atlantic Herring

Hi Salleman. Uwe and myself are going over the Antlantic herring article to improve it hopefully to FA status at some point. As you did such a great job with the Antartic krill article i thought you maybe interested in lending a hand, it would be much appreciated. Yakuzai 28 June 2005 21:04 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish Wikipedians' notice board

Hi, I've noticed that you are active on Swedish topics. I'm trying to breathe some life into the Swedish Wikipedians' notice board. My hope is that Wikipedians interested in Swedish topics will watch this page and use it to keep track of ongoing debates and votes relating to Swedish articles, and as a place to list "weak spots" they don't have the time or knowledge to fix, in order to attract the attention of someone knowledgeable in a specific area. Would you consider signing up? / Alarm 30 June 2005 18:53 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. I'm not really a history/politics/geography guy, but I'll put the notice board on my watchlist. Salleman 30 June 2005 21:48 (UTC)
Not everyone has to be. We'll have use for a wide array of competences and interests. There are a lot of other areas that ought to be covered, so feel free to add any missing or incomplete articles on all kinds of Sweden-related topics - not only history/politics/geography. And if you notice an interesting debate and/or vote going on relating to an article on Swedish matters, it would be great if you could post a short notice under "News". / Alarm 30 June 2005 22:38 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

Hi Salleman, as you probably have noticed I have added some quotes from a book of mine. IMHO, they are good examples of folklore and being from deep Sweden, Närke, they should be quite representative. I hope you agree, otherwise feel free to remove them.--Wiglaf 8 July 2005 11:38 (UTC)

Quotes are always good. That's what folklore consists of, after all. Please add more of those if you have any in stock. Salleman 9 July 2005 16:04 (UTC)

[edit] Kraken

Good added material! I tweaked the format. Very handsome page now. --Wetman 02:07, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Thx! Glad to be of service! Since Denys de Montfort according to [1] (in French) based his description in part on the stories of American whalers, I'm now wondering if those, whom I presume were at least partially Anglophone, where not aware of Kraken before Tennyson "disseminated" it in English.

[edit] Astrild

Thanks for clearing that one up :) - Haukurth 20:42, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jan Guillou

Thanks for adding the pronunciation! --Iceager 06:45, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:2004-tsunami.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.

[edit] krill on mainpage in Danmark today

hallo Salleman! today our antarctic krill is on the main page in Danmark (where my roots are!) http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside - thank you again for your help - maybe you can start moving the article to Norsk - Viele Gruesse nach Skandinavien von Uwe Kils Image:heringmini.jpg 15:18, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

thanks for the message - thats funny, we see it today on http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside - maybe then you could start translating some into your language, please, all images are on commons Uwe Kils Image:heringmini.jpg 16:22, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Elves

Hi, Wiglaf! Good work on elf, there; though I see that you shun the "show preview" button :D

Thanks for the support about the changes. Yes, you have a point the previews, but it is because I spend a lot of time, interrupted by family life, reading the article and find new things all the time :).--Wiglaf 12:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I note that you like to capitalize "Elf" and "Elves". I believe that unless you are Tolkien and view "Elven" as a sort of nationality, proper English is to not capitalize mythical beings: elves, fairies or what have you. Merriam-Webster gives elf and fairy with lower case initial and e.g. Norwegian (and Aesir and Vanir) with an initial capital. --Salleman 12:27, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I have been thinking of asking your opinion on this. Since Vanir and Aesir are spelt with capital letters, it seems natural to capitalize elf as well.--Wiglaf 12:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

::All that said, I can see the reason behind "Æsir, Vanir and Elves," but I prefer "elves" as much as possible. Maybe a compromise could be to use "Álfar" more extensively? --Salleman 13:11, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I have no strong feeling about capitalization at all. If you prefer it to be non-capitalized, go ahead. However, I'd rather avoid overusing álfar due to a semantic law named the no synonymy principle and which may make uninformed readers believe that elf and alf are separate notions.--Wiglaf 13:24, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More on elves

Well, why not. The two new articles could be merged. As for the other categories you suggested, I think they can wait until the page size is once again getting too large.--Wiglaf 18:18, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] commons:Image:2004-tsunami.jpg

Hi,

I was wondering if you could fill out a bit more information about commons:Image:2004-tsunami.jpg, such as exactly where the photo was taken? Thanks very much, Peregrine981 09:46, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take his word for it that this is Khao Lak. Seems quite possible. Peregrine981 11:44, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Back to the Picture Books

How do you upload a picture? Now I need to because the image isn't already on Wikipedia. --Wack'd About Wiki 15:26, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

PS: Sorry we haven't spoken in a while but I remembered how you helped me out before in the picture section and I thought I should ask you.

[edit] articles you started are VfD

I think it is fair to inform you that two articles you started not long ago are being voted for deletion: Votes_for_deletion/Svenne and Votes_for_deletion/Blatte. Regards, --Fred-Chess 07:37, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Uhu ... Aw, what the heck. Let the exclusionists have their way. Not exactly my finest edits. --Salleman 09:49, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be interesting if you gave your opinions on them... they both seem to be voted to be kept, by the way. --Fred-Chess 10:26, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Columns

Do you know how to put text into two equal columns? --Wack'd About Wiki 20:54, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About the LOTR Elf photos

NO they can NOT be used under fair use. Anyway, they are spurious and silly and add nothing to the article. Wikipedia is a serious knowledge base, not a fan mag. — J M Rice 21:41, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Sea serpent.jpg

Hej, fin bild. Du kan lägga dem i wikimedia commons direkt nästa gång, använd kategorin "Category:Historia de gentibus septentrionalibus".

--Fred-Chess 05:10, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Sad

Template:Sad has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Sad. Thank you. (Including all his buddies) ∞Who?¿? 08:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Rwl.gif

This image appears to be missing. Would you be willing and able to reupload it? Tomer TALK 06:32, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baldr's name

Hi!

I was wondering if you had anything to add to the discussion of Baldr's name on Talk:Baldr. I'd value your opinion, even if you happened to disagree with me on this :)

BTW - good work sorting out this valkyries+aurora borealis mess. I knew it was wrong but I also knew that if I just removed it someone might add it again. The right thing to do is to trace the misconception and clear it up in the article, as you have done.

I'd like to make Baldr into a good article but I just moved abroad (Reykjavík -> London) and still haven't got an Internet connection at my new home. And most of my books are still back home in Iceland... I just sneak a few peaks at Wikipedia now, probably won't be very active for some time. I've got to trust you and Wiglaf with the mythology pages :)

- Haukurth 12:15, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pic of the day

The picture Image:2004-tsunami.jpg that you nominated for FPC is due up for Picture of the Day on Sunday and so will also appear on the Main Page. If you get the chance, could check and correct the associated caption at Wikipedia:Picture of the day/September 25, 2005. -- Solipsist 07:08, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merseburger Zaubersprüche

Thanks for your request to translate de:Merseburger Zaubersprüche into the English Merseburg Incantations. It is highly interesting article and I thoroughly enjoyed every moment translating it. --BorgQueen 04:22, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baldr's accusative

Btw, is the r in Baldr a nominative case marker? It seems strange then that his name in the mainland Scandinavian languages doesn't become Bald. - Salleman

The r is not a nominative marker, it's a part of the stem (nom. Baldr, acc. Baldr, dat. Baldri, gen. Baldrs). Btw, kudos on getting the Merseburger charms article translated! - Haukurth 19:42, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Skuld

Hi Salle. There is a vote at talk:Skuld, and I thought you might have an opinion. Cheers.--Wiglaf 14:40, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Skuld

In regarding your vote, for the sake of the argument, think of someone looking for the Norse mythology pricness, skuld, up on wikipedia. He/she will end up with a norse mythology character thats not the one he/she is looking for. This will minimise conflusion. I ask you to reconsider your vote. Thanks --Cool Cat Talk 16:54, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Höðr

Hi, Salleman! There's currently a request to move Höðr to "Hodur". I thought you might have some insight into the question - Talk:Höðr. - Haukurth 09:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Sweden 1658.png

Hi. Just wanted to inform you that I have modified the colours a little. Regards, Fred-Chess 13:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anglicizations proposal

Óðinn
Etymology: Debated. Possibly from òðr (fury) + -in (lord)
Cognates: Wõden (OE, OS), Wotan or Wothan (OHG), Wodan (OF), Wuoden (Al), Godan (Lo)
Possible anglicizations: Odin, Ódin, Othin, Odhin, Odinn, [etc]

On East Asia related pages, they sometimes have a transliterations box listing all notable alternative names. See for example tao, qi, kirin and Zen. We could perhaps come up with something similar, as seen to the right. This would remove the long list of anglicized names from the body of the article, thus making it more readable.

Concerning other systems, I prefer putting the anglicized names in an etymology section, in an alternative names section or, if it is a short article such as Sæhrímnir, at the end of it. --Salleman 22:16, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I like it. How about you add it to the discussion on our much maligned ON spelling standard? Maybe we could rewrite it and incorporate something like that. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 22:19, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Sure, but I guess that calls for me producing like three page downs of elaborate text, explaining all the fine details about the proposal; something like your posts on that page. It just sprang to my mind that the box also needs a row about alternative names, such as Yggr, Hárr, Grímnir, Valfaðir, Alfaðir, etc --Salleman 22:36, 7 October 2005 (UTC
Right. It's certainly non-trivial work. I'll be happy to help you cook something up. If you don't feel it's ready for the Wikipedia name space at this stage then let's work on it in your user space. I'm going to sleep now but hope to work on Wikipedia during the weekend. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 22:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Some votes on WP:RM

Hi!

I don't know if you'll be interested, but there are some votes going on at the moment on WP:RM involving post-ASCII characters.

I'm sending the same note to Wiglaf.

Regards,

Haukur Þorgeirsson 23:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bye

Good bye to you, and I respect you decision -- Wikipedia is after all not real, just a digital bubble world. // Fred-Chess 03:22, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Far heill!

Sorry to see you leave - you were one of the best. Let me know if you ever come back :) - Haukur Þorgeirsson 01:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dravidians

I've no idea what motivation you had for the ridiculous tag you added to Dravidian people, but such hyperbole is unlikely to be appreciated by editors involved. Paul B 00:50, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:MultiLicenseCommunism

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