Talk:Salad
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It is being proposed at Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion that Greek salad should be deleted. I have suggested that it should be kept at the moment because Greek salad ought be treated in a consistant manner to Chicken salad, Egg salad,Fruit salad,Pasta salad, Potato salad, Somen salad,Tabouli,Waldorf salad and Watergate salad. There are historical developents, related events, cultural influences, variataions and interpretations and fictional references to many of these salads however many of these specific salad types have very short articles, the content of which I reackon could be merged into the salad page, without it becomming too long. Richard Taylor 01:10, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I think the original problem with the Greek salad article was that it was a recipe (see older versions). Since then, it has been modified into a legitimate (but stubby) article. I think this was supported by the votes on VfD. So, I don't think there is currently any need to merge. ike9898 13:29, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
- All the articles on different salads need working on to justify keeping them as separate articles Chef salad, for example is also up for deletion - as it too is a recipe. Richard Taylor 17:49, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I don't know if it's appropriate for an encyclopedia, but leftover runner beans are great the next day cold in salad with tomatoes & vinaigrette. :-) -- Tarquin
Could we sort out this salmonella thing? AFAIK, once cooked, eggs are fine. At least this is what was said during the salmonella scare in the UK -- Tarquin 10:08, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- Salads, especially when left out in the sun, as at long picnics, can definitely grow bacteria and cause food poisoning. It's often Staph aureus rather than salmonella if it doesn't >>come from<< the mayonnaise, but it still >>grows in<< the mayonnaise. -- Someone else 10:11, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Oh I see. Is salad seen a specifically a picnic food in the US? It isn't over in Europe. -- Tarquin 10:16, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- Well, it's more like "potato salad" and "macaroni salad" that are seen so, but the basic mayonnaise principle applies<G>. It's one of the "usual suspects" that are rounded up when food poisoning occurs... like rice for Bacillus cereus and such. -- Someone else 10:19, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- For completeness sake, I probably should also point out that the more "usual" salads are often put out in "salad bars" where people sneeze and drool on them... -- Someone else 10:30, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I think this is another US-POV problem -- salad itself isn't the problem; it's the way it is served & perceived in the USA, and we should change the article accordingly. I make salad at home ;) -- Tarquin 11:35, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- I wouldn't blame it on nationality. If it's a problem, it's my "things that cause disease" problem, not my "US" problem. I think we probably don't need any mention of disease in a salad article. -- Someone else 12:33, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Salad - that is to say the things like fresh tomatoes, lettuce, celery, cucumber etc are only likely to be cause food posioning if they have been washed or grown in contaminated water, or if they have been handled badly or sneezed on. In the greter scheme of things these salads are less likely culprits in any food poisoning outbreak. The real risk is from other bits that are added to salad. High risk additions are: mayonnaise, egg / dairy, meat and rice. David Thrale 13:58, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Quote?
Is it appropriate for an encyclopedia article to begin with a quote? It seems like something out of a magazine. - Vague | Rant 04:04, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Agree... with a heavy heart. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:06, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"A salad is a food item generally served either prior to or after the main dish as a separate course, as a main course in itself, or as a side dish" - glad we cleared that up
- LOL! - Ta bu shi da yu 08:06, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 'Salade'
Umn, I think this just actually means lettuce, but I'm not sure enough to change it. Perhaps a french scholar (or someone with more than my 10 year old standard grade could check this?
[edit] Rapunzel
Surely Rapunzel's mother was yearning for radishes? But then, I've never heard 'rapunzel' used as a name for corn salad, or whatever random plant it is this links to.
- I found this
- The German word "Rapunzel" is defined variously as "field salad," "corn salad," or "lamb's lettuce."
- at [[1]]
- Not sure what shall be the "lamb's lettuce."--Romaine 22:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Broad dressing
"Common salad dressings in the United States tend to be very broad". Maybe someone with a knowledge of US cuisine can rearrange this sentence? I haven;t a clue what it means. Does it mean there is a wide variety of dressings in use there? Palmiro | Talk 23:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
A wide variety of salad dressings are used. I am from Canada but salad dressing is very similar here as it is in the USA. Commonly used dressings range from vinaigrettes to creamy ones. Perhaps the sentence could be changed to "There are a number of different commonly used salad dressings in the North America: either homemade or commercially bottled; they are simple or complex vinaigrettes, creamy or mayonnaise versions." EJ Minston 12:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cultural Consequences of Salad
You don't make friends with salad.
[edit] gourmet ingredients???
I think the part about burnet and sorrel being gourmet today must be a US thing. They both grow wild in britain, and are often cultivated in gardens.
[edit] big mistake!
the word is lettuce in french not salt!
[edit] Green salad: vegetables vs. ingredients
I reverted change to "ingredients" from vegetables because:
- First instance of "vegetable"/first sentence in section: A green salad is indeed most often "composed of a mixture of vegetables", and quite often nothing else, although there is nothing in the following text that precludes non-vegetable
- Second instance of "vegetable"/second sentence in section: That list is indeed nothing but vegetables, so it makes no sense to change the word to something more inclusive.
- Third sentence in section: Now we come to the list of other "food items". If you prefer the word ingredient it could logically replace the current word "food item". I went ahead and made that substitution. --SFDan 07:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
