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[edit] Numbering of characters

You may have seen this at other places on the Internet that I used to frequent. I always refer to the individual Sailor Senshi by number and not by name, and I reflected this "numbering scheme" in the picture that I just put into this article. If you want to change or delete the caption of that picture, feel free to do so, but please ask beforehand, either on this page or on my talk page, why I have this numbering scheme in the first place, how I devised it, and/or how other people have responded to it in the past, if I have not already explained it to you in the past. Denelson83 07:33, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

See also User talk:Denelson83/Sailor Moon. Denelson83 19:56, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I may not be the first who have wondered about this, but how come "Sailor Moon" is "Sailor Moon", instead of "Sailor Tellus", which would have been more logical? ^^

Takeuchi-san's choice, I guess. Denelson83 23:03, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

Actually, Senshi redirects here. A disambiguation link that has been recently removed makes sense, but with different words, like Sailor redirects here. For the professional wrestler, see.... Or make Senshi a disambiguation page with two links. -- ReyBrujo 18:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meaning of "Senshi"

  • Could someone explain this to me? This article (or Sailor Moon, not sure) claims that "senshi" has no particular meaning, but I see it used a lot in other anime, and it's translated into "warrior". Thanks in advance. Danny Lilithborne 06:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
According to Gjiten: 戦士 (せんし) (n) soldier; combatant; warrior; (P); -- ReyBrujo 07:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Quite correct. I've attempted to clarify the section of this article that looks like it might have prompted that confusion. --Aponar Kestrel (talk) 07:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

The word, セーラー戦士 (Sērā Senshi) means, "Sailor Warrior". --PJ Pete

[edit] Merge of Sailor Wars

I propose merging in the Sailor Wars article, as most of the information there is covered here already. If no one objects, I'll do this Friday, September 8th. --Masamage 04:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It's only 1 am, and I try to wait until later than this, but this particular merge seems pretty noncontroversial, as it involves the addition of just one word. Moving ahead. --Masamage 07:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not mentioned

As far as I can see, the only Senshi who aren't either mentioned or linked to here are Cosmos and Chibi Chibi Moon. I'll add those tomorrow, unless anyone wants to go for it sooner. --Masamage 05:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes thats true but other senshi have no info and that is more inportent I propose we add a page for "Other Senshi" that inculudes info on senshi like, Demios, Phobios, Buttress, and other "Little known senshi" The site Shrine of little known senshi has good info on them.Lego3400: The Sage of Time 16:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I'd rather put those at List of minor Sailor Moon characters and link out to it. That's what it's for. --Masamage 01:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No MAKE UP! said.

(since this applies to all senshi I put this here, if its in the wrong place please move it) Instead of saying that "In the english Dub she does not say MAKE-UP!" 5 times on each page. how about includeing a note that says they never say it unless other wise noted.Lego3400: The Sage of Time 01:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Good idea...I feel like it has enough immediate relevance (since the henshin sequences and other powers are all about spoken words) to stay in the Senshi articles. However, each bio should only mention that once, either before or after the list of transformations. --Masamage 04:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notably, though, the Inner Senshi transformed...

Notably, though, the Inner Senshi transformed into their Super forms under their own power while the Outer Senshi had to rely on the help of a crystal to transform into their Super forms. This is not quite true - in the manga and anime Saturn powers up the Outers, and in the anime, wasn't it Pegasus who helped the Inners' tranformation? (I'm a little foggy on the last.) --KagamiNoMiko 10:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

The Saturn thing is right, but I'm foggy about how the Inners powered up, too... Looks like it's time to dig around in Hitoshi Doi's summaries... --Masamage 16:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
It was indeed Pegasus who got the Inners into their super forms. --  Denelson83  02:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
It was in the episode where Fish-eye used a fake pegasus to put doubts into the Senshi's minds. When the pegasus remless trapped Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon in a dome, the real pegasus pleaded with the other Senshi to open their hearts to him and to believe in him so that he could give them stronger powers. From that moment on, they used their new henshin wands and the "Crystal Power Make-up!" phrase. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 06:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soldier or Senshi?

While we're at Mask/Kamen, let's vote for this too. Which term should we use?

In this case, I actually vote in favor of Senshi, for a few reasons. The first is that the translation of senshi seems to vary a lot depending on where you look, so this sidesteps that problem. That's the big deal of it for me.

The second thing is that it gets 83,000 Google hits, where "Sailor Soldier" and "Sailor Soldiers" combined get 43,700. Warrior/Warriors gets 23,600, so Senshi outdoes both those translations combined.

On the other hand ,"Sailor Scout" and "Sailor Scouts" get 104,000. So I guess you could vote for that, but...gross. ;___;

Thoughts? --Masamage 01:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Disgusting!! I hate "scout". While the subtitled versions use the word "soldier", I prefer the usage of "senshi". Simply because there is no real translation for it and I think that it's more popular, as you proved above. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 01:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • "Senshi" per google. --Kunzite 21:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Senshi. Um, yea. Danny Lilithborne 21:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Four for Senshi so far...anyone else want to sound off? --Masamage 07:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I say go with "Senshi". --  Denelson83  15:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Let's set a deadline for further comment at this weeked. If no one has objected by Monday, October 30th, we can probably call it decided. --Masamage 18:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

If we're sticking with Senshi throughout, then the name of the anime in the episode blurbs "I'll Punish You! The Fortune-Telling House is a Youma's Mansion! (おしおきよ！占いハウスは妖魔の館 Oshiokiyo! Uranai house wa youma no yakata?) is the second episode of the Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon anime." should probably be changed back to Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon, for consistency. - Malkinann 20:24, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

A good point to raise. I think I disagree, because a "Sailor Senshi" is something very specific, such that even if you know what the individual words mean, you'd still need to read the article to know what we're talking about. On the other hand, someone who reads those episode articles without knowing Japanese would have no idea what the name of the anime was. --Masamage 03:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Senshi FTW. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 20:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

i all was use senshi 195.93.21.4 16:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, this looks pretty decided. --Masamage 08:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I can't keep quite about this anymore. That image is too much of an eye sore (The pixalation is bad even when it is full sized!) We need a new one... BAdly!Lego3400: The Sage of Time 15:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree. I love the one we switched it out for at Sailor Moon, but since not everyone in that picture is a Senshi, it would probably just be confusing here.
So, should we try to find a group shot? Or just show one example of a Senshi? --Masamage 19:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd be in favour of a group shot, if possible - maybe there's a suitable one in the manga? - Malkinann 01:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Anything, As long as its not this.. infact if any one could track down the original image it would be fine.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Lego3400 (talk • contribs).
Wow, I didn't even think of that. Searching now. --Masamage 21:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I like this one, but again, they're not all Senshi; and this one here has them in their school uniforms. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 21:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm. The first one's certainly gorgeous, but you're right, besides which I think it's fanart. And it's probably best to show the Senshi uniforms themselves, for illustration purposes. I haven't yet come across another version of the one we have now, but I'd like to keep looking... Obey me, internet! --Masamage 22:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I know what you mean... I wish i knew where the uploader got it from.... When i found the image that We're useing on Sailor Moon, I was actully looking for the orginal one of this (which was also on that page at that time), but i saw that and liked it even more.. So i used it instead... Lego3400: The Sage of Time 16:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

There's this one from MangaStyle that shows all of the girls, but not their boots. - Malkinann 00:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

That one is one of my all time favorite images. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 02:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I also have this image and this one, too. We can always add a second pic of any missing Senshi, right? -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 17:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

For now i've put the Image we're using on Sailor Moon and changed the caption to "The Sailor Team and thier Allies... I just couldn't take the old one any more... (took me a bit to get the size right though) Lets keep it as a place holder for now (We would have needed to change the capiton anyways so we just upload our new one at where we had the old one and just remove the 2 from the link... (Simple! (And i planned it that way when i uploaded the file..)))Lego3400: The Sage of Time 16:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I combined several pics to form this one. Would this be okay to use? -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 00:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
That's very pretty, but when shrunk down it would be too small to see anybody.
I've been looking quite a lot. Still haven't given up on a good version of what we used to have...--Masamage 01:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Um, I see that you've added it. I still don't think it quite works. You had to make it unreasonably huge for any detail to show. --Masamage 01:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
It's big enough to be seen when clicked on...  :( -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 01:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Now I don't think it works and I feel like a bully. --Masamage 05:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Ummmm... I'll come up with something else, then. We can use more than one pic, right? -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 07:18, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah but try not too... I like the one that cut off their feet... I went looking and found this! http://aprilstar03.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sd_senshi_group_shot.jpg It even says Sailor Team on it XD! Lego3400: The Sage of Time 05:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I replaced the image file with an anime style one. It shows the main 10 Senshi with no modifications. I suppose that the Starlights and the Quartet can be added to the page somewhere as well. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 20:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Good find! That looks really nice. I'll toss the Starlights image back in. --Masamage 19:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How does a Senshi awaken?

Yes, I know, back to basics.  ;) Here's my first draft:

A girl with the power to become a Sailor Senshi lives her normal life, with perhaps some powers endowed by her slumbering Sailor Crystal (esp. in the manga), until she obtains her henshin item, whereupon she can transform into her Senshi form. For the Inner Senshi, when the girl is endangered by an evil monster, her planetary symbol begins to glow, which enables Luna to identify the girl as a Sailor Senshi, and produce the henshin item. After the girl has taken up her mantle as a Sailor Senshi, memories from the past life can begin returning. Sometimes, the girl can be spoken to by her Sailor Senshi form (ref from when the current girls got their Super forms) - this might be called the 'quintessential' Sailor Senshi. (A quote from the manga about what the quintessential Sailors are would be better than this piece of OR!) All of the current Sailor Team's awakenings have been recorded, except for Sailor Neptune and Sailor Pluto.

So there you go. Very much WIP, very much OR, and quite possibly needed. Little help, please? - Malkinann 01:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page name

These titles: Sailor Warrior and セーラー戦士 link to this article. --PJ Pete

Sounds fine to me. Please add new comments to the bottom of talk pages. --Masamage 05:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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