Talk:Sailor Moon (English versions)/Archive 01
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[edit] Curious
I'm just curious - how, exactly, did DIC fall into breach of contract? I like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable on this subject, but this is something that I honestly don't recall. --TheKid965 17:33, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] BANNED EPISODES
Maybe someone could make a seperate page about the banned episodes. Its a good idea :)
[edit] Episode 67
Does anyone have a source for Toei not allowing ADV to have the license for #67?
We have to be careful about this because ADV sometimes makes vague statements that are easy to interpret in ways that aren't necessarily correct. For instance, when ADV claimed they used the materials they were sent, this was widely taken by fans to mean that they *tried and failed* to get better materials. Yet it doesn't say that at all.
Unless someone comes up with a quote which *states* that Toei refused to license #67 to ADV, I'm going to delete that line. Ken Arromdee 03:08, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's Episode #67-J. The episode that I know with the number 67 is actually "Rubeus Strikes Out" in the English-language adaptation, or episode #67-C. Please disambiguate next time. Denelson83 04:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
I've deleted references to Toei not letting ADV have the license, in the absence of any source for the information.
While we're at it, does anyone have a source for Toei not allowing Sailor Stars because of unsuitable content? Ken Arromdee 18:10, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- There is a TON of info on the Wiki page for Toei concerning it, under the controversy section. There's a whole paragraph that is there that gives a LOT of info that isn't on this page (that should be). -Darkpower 08:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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- That shouldn't be on the Toei page either, for the same reason: it's just a rumor. There's no reference; nobody really has any idea where the information comes from or whether it's true. That section of the Toei page actually has a tag about a problem with not citing sources or references. Ken Arromdee 15:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Given the lack of a reference, I've deleted that too. Ken Arromdee 16:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Regarding episode 67, that's the "Chibiusa plays with a dinosaur" episode that is generally seen as an embarassment. Danny Lilithborne 09:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] sailor moon music
does any one know what the music in sailor moon dub when molly and sailor moon are talking befor she goes in the dark cristal ty —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.73 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Content
This article seems extremely bias. I understand the bad that occured with this series, but nothing, unlike its Japanese counterpart, is stated about the content unless its criticising it. If I knew enough about the later episodes (while they aired in Canada n YTV, it was erratic), I would do it myself. This article deserves some content about the characters, plot and setting as is; not comparing it to the Japanese version at every turn. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zero X Marquis (talk • contribs) .
It's a very interesting thought. It says Toei isn't going to put Stars or PGSM up for US rights, but says nothing about the dispute them and Naoko have over the copyrights. This really seems strange, and I think that should be added to this so people at least know something is going on that they should know. 08:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC) Darkpower
Maybe I'll add that to this page. Unless they actually search for it, no one is going to find info about Toei that easily to see that Toei is screwing around (in my opinion) yet again. -Darkpower 08:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Can someone link to an article (preferably in English) which talks about Naoko Takeuchi's dispute with Toei? I keep hearing about this, but never see any evidence supporting it. Danny Lilithborne 09:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- There's alot of people saying different things. That Naoko herself decided to stop the US from getting the rights because she didn't like how the US handled it (which I doubt VERY highly, because if that were true, then she would've stopped us from getting it YEARS ago), that Toei is stopping the US from getting the rights for unknown reasons, that FOX has the rights for that movie that the rumors are going on and on about which I STILL don't know if it's true or not (though the more I hear about it, the more I think there could be some truth behind it, sorry to say. No one has substancial proof to disprove anything, and everyone that is said to be responsible for the project are VERY hush-hush about it), that they want to wait for the craze on the Japanese box sets to die down, the thing on the Wiki page that you're concerned about, etc. No one has made it clear WHAT is the truth (no one has proof to make ANYTHING true). - Darkpower 09:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Sorry, but I wanted to add something to what I just said: I may be able to say this with all seriousness, that I may predict by this time next year, as it stands right now, we'll be hearing a HELL of a lot about a SM movie. Also, you should remove the stuff about Toei refusing rights, because it's actually unclear what moves they are doing, especially now. - Darkpower 10:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Whomever Kogsquinge is, thank you for the more focused on the English version update. Zero X Marquis 14:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No info
This article contains almost no info whatsoever. It only contains a comparasion with the Japanese series. Who cares about that? Sheesh! Could someone add some actual info about the series perhaps? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seldane (talk • contribs) .
[edit] Episodes skipped by Cheez TV
The episodes skipped by Cheez TV in Australia due to classification restrictions were "Match Point For Sailor Moon" and "A Friend in Wolf's Clothing". I can understand why they skipped the latter, but why do you think they skipped match point? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kogsquinge (talk • contribs) .
- The clasifcation laws got really strict. You might've noticed Seven didn't ever skip those episodes. Correct me if I'm worng, but I'm sure Cheez TV aired "Match Point For Sailor Moon" and skipped "Fight to the Finish" due to Jedite's death. Celebrity-Benji 17:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Disputed
See Talk:Sailor Moon/Archive 1#What is #2's actual surname? -- Denelson83 03:51, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] CN Skipped episode
What about the episode of Sailor Moon S that CN skipped. It was the one where Hotaru is revealed to be Sailor Saturn. It was later aired except CN had added a bikini top to the monster just like the ones they used in Tenchi Muyo --Sketchee 18:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Themes?
Could we have a list of all the English themes used?
Also, the English theme song copies from the Japanese...does it say that anywhere? 69.192.62.63 16:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- The English dub used only one theme track through its entire run. -- Denelson83 19:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Manga version
Do you think we should add info here about the English release of the manga? There is something about that on the main Sailor Moon page, but I think it would be more fitting here. This article's supposed to be about the English release in general, not just the anime, I think :)--Hanachan01 14:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hi; I moved your comment to the bottom to keep things organized. ^^ And I agree; that doesn't belong on the main page nearly so much as it belongs here. --Masamage 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Done! --Masamage 17:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Move
I don't know anything about Sailor Moon, but I found this article's existence quite confusing (and, hopefully, clarified somewhat what this article is for in the disambiguating hatnote on Sailor Moon pointing here).
The current title gives the impression that there is one work called Sailor Moon and one English version of it (which doesn't seem to be the case). Shouldn't this article be moved to English versions of Sailor Moon series?
Personally, I don't see why this article needs to exist at all. Why can't the different manga and anime series have seperate articles pointed to from seperate sections of Sailor Moon (with template:main)? Also, if this article must be kept, aren't there other English Sailor Moon works like computer games?
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 12:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- When the Sailor Moon anime series was dubbed into English, they basically dumbed it down about a hundred IQ points. Some aspects of the series were completely altered. Genders got switched. Death scenes were removed. Lesbians became (strangely flirtatious) cousins. This page catalogues the differences between original and dub versions. The English manga is much better, but also makes a few weird changes; none of the video games, or the musicals or live-action series, were ever officially translated into English, so they don't appear here.
- Maybe some confusion would be cleared up if we had more of the history at the top, before the list of changes. And maybe some sort of pluralized article title, yeah. On the other hand, I think the singular title works because Sailor Moon is a metaseries, meaning the anime and manga are largely the same and belong to the same people. A better history at the top seems needed, though. --Masamage 16:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I propose moving this article to Sailor Moon (English versions). This seems noncontroversial, since the article contains the English version of the anime, the English version of the manga, etc. In Japan, they were all essentially the same franchise; in North America said franchise is owned by lots of different people. Therefore, the plural, demonstrating that these are different from one another. If no one objects, I'll make the move on September 14th, 2006. --Masamage 23:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
