Talk:Sacred Band of Thebes

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What are details of the excavation of their grave? For example, who directed it, when was it done, & where are the findings published? -- llywrch 18:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

It was done in the late 1800's. but I do not know by whom. Haiduc 22:18, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Does anybody know where the statement that the band was composed of charioteers and drivers came from? I'm almost certain the band was a hoplite regiment, and the chariot was out of use in Greece by this point. Robth^Talk 14:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

1 Plato
2 Too big a change?
3 Pederasty had nothing to do with the Sacred Band of Thebes
4 Source for Thebes being conquered by Sparta in 404

[edit] Plato

Hlieberman would like you to know:

"Plato also references the Sacred Band of Thebes once in his "Symposium." A small excerpt: "And if there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their loves, they would be the very best governors of their own city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour; and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would overcome the world."

--maru (talk) contribs 03:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too big a change?

$I n s e r t f o r m u l a h e r e$ I’ve made some changes to the article. These changes might credibly be seen as too far-reaching. If so, please revert. I wanted just to change one paragraph at a time, but, as in the nature of paragraphs, one thing lead to another. I hope my changes make sense, and that they might inspire other editors to improve the article beyond these changes. I don’t wish to be treading on anybody’s toes. I find myself quite fond of the Sacred Band. It seems that there was previously, in this article, a representation of their grave-monument. And it was removed. What would be the Wiki rquirements of a representation of a well-known monument? MacMurrough 05:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pederasty had nothing to do with the Sacred Band of Thebes

Why on Earth do they keep removing my note that the link to the Pederasty in Ancient Greece article deals with a form of homosexuality quite different from the homosexuality that was an integral part of the Band? They weren't pederasts. They were consenting adults (at least, adult by ancient Greek standards...adult enough to be sent off to war) in devoted relationships not as a mentor and his protege, but as comrades...as equals. To link pederasty from this article is misleading, and might cause some to think the Sacred Band of Thebes was nothing more than an army of pedophiles, which couldn't be further from the truth. This link NEEDS to be clarified!

Please provide an academic reference for your contention. Haiduc 03:06, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, every source I've read states that they were, in fact, pederasts... of course I cannot get any sources, mind you.. I'll start looking. Heweyeweyeweyeweyeweyewey... The Duke of Copyeditting, Bow before me! ^{You can't control me!} _{I'm a P. I.!} 23:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)