Talk:Sac (tribe)

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This page is tough! I see why it was tagged for Cleanup. I have added a little bit regarding the Tribe's name, but much more is needed. Here are some suggestion:

• Pre-contact life-style information
• Tribal migration from -
  • St. Lawrence seaway to Michigan
  • Michigan to S. Wisconsin/N. Illinois, Iowa/Nebraska and Kansas/Nebraska
  • Consolidation to Iowa, Kansas/Nebraska and Oklahoma
• Early contact information
• Treaties signed by the Sac with the US
• Treaty implications and life-style change
• US Policies and their effect on the Sac & Fox
• Establishment of the current 3 Sac & Fox communities
  • Demographics of each of the 3 communities
  • Major sources of income of each of the 3 communities
  • Education and cultural protection/enhancement programs
• graphics: ancient distribution, current 3 community locations, other enhancing graphics
• Additional links for more information

Due to the interconnectivity between the Sac and Fox, the Fox page would need updating as well. In conjunction to the updating the Sac and Fox pages, Kickapoo would need some adjustments as well.

IMPORTANT NOTE:

I have not changed it, but the whole "Early History" is based off of incomplete information. Two of the more notable errors...

Neither of the important leaders mentioned (Keokuk and Black Hawk) were Chiefs. Black Hawk was a respected war leader, but he was never a Chief; Keokuk was a peaceful leader and a respected orator, but was only given authority because he was favored by the Americans. The Americans effectively appointed Keokuk "Chief". Chiefdom in Sauk tradition had to be passed down by lineage and though both Black Hawk and Keokuk came from honorable lineages, they were never tribal/civil Chiefs recognized by the Sauk. Chief Black Hawk is a common misnomer!

The article also suggests that the Sauk fought frequently with the French; this was not the case! After the early Fox Wars, the Sauk actually had relatively good relations with the French and to a later on the British, but had many problems with the Americans. In fact, according to Roger L. Nichols book, Black Hawk and the Warrior Path, the Sauk were desmayed to hear about the loss of their French allies as a result of the Louisiana Purchase.

-J. Canales, Madison, WI 16 Jun 2006

[edit] Pronunciation of oθaakiiwaki

It would be great if someone provided a sound clip of the word "oθaakiiwaki", or at least the pronunciation in IPA. Omphaloscope talk 16:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)