User talk:RVDDP2501

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Hi, This is regarding the Extinctioners page. Wow, you did a great job with the article. I see that you put a lot of calculations behind the size of the images. I only resized the images because it is starkly different from the layout in other Wikipedia articles. Anyways, I leave that to you to either resize it or leave it like that. However I want you to know that there are ways to deal with the blank space that comes beside the TOC - {{TOCleft}} and {{TOCright}}. Please see Windows Vista, WinFS, Alizée, Features new to Windows Vista for demonstration.

And for images, they must be non-copyrighted if you want to upload them. Otherwise they will be deleted. Also while uploading, you must specify the source. Most images from web are not in this category. But book/magazine covers can be used, under certain cirumstances.

And it is improper to remove warning messages from your talk page. If you ever get such a message, give a response justifying your actions both on your talk page, as well as on the talk page of the person who put the message.

Apart from that, Welcome to Wikipedia. --soUmyaSch 05:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thnx for ur comments.
The messages you said you got were only drawing your attention to the fact that the sources of the images that you uploaded were not specified.So, specifying sources is a good start. However, that is not entirely sufficient. Since all the images are copyrighted, you need to provide a rationale stating why using it on wikipedia qualifies as fair use of the image, without infringing the copyright. Only then it can be used in wikipedia. So in additionn to the {{Promotional}}, you must add one {{fair use in|<article name>}} tag as well.
As for the article, IMO it looks too heavy on pictures. The concept art images do not add any further clarification to the prose. Other than that, its a nice article.
As for knowing about Wikipedia, it just a matter of experience. Here are a bunch of links that will help you.
Hope this helps. --soUmyaSch 05:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Extinctioners Page

Thanks for editing the link to the Extinctioners site, listen, is there a limit to the number of pic on Wikipedia, cause a user named Pathoschild COMPLETELY edited my page last night, changed everything, left a ton of empty spaces, what do you think and what should I do? Do you think I have too many pics or are you like me, more visual info, the better —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RVDDP2501 (talkcontribs).

Generally, having too many non-free images is discouraged, but personally I like images. That said, I don't really want to get seriously involved in the debate. All I did was change a link in the external links section. Hope you don't get too much wikistressPengo 11:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, then can I ask your opinion, if thats ok with you, which pics do you think are not nessesary, which one you think can stay, etc. I really would like you opinion, if you want I can give you my e-mail address so we can talk in an easier way, what would you prefer?

If you want my honest opinion, making shrines to pop culture is a massive waste of time and you've already invested far too much mental and emotional energy to it. I really wish people would care more about conserving real animals and less about the placement of drawings of anthropomorphised ones. Pathoschild's version is much neater, and the images which have been removed could possibly be added in a gallery at the bottom, although they are basically unnecessary. Try reading what has already been said to you. If you like drawings of animals, why not make some yourself and add them to the relevant articles about those animals. There are plenty of mammals that don't have pictures yet. —Pengo 11:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll try and make it better, tell me what you think?

ok, its edited, what do you think (P.S. it was alittle bit difficult to remove pics that i worked to add)

I believe that the page is totaly overloaded with images, and happen to agree with Pathoschild (talk contribs)'s reworking of the page. The Wiki project on Fair Use states that we must keep fair use images to a minimum, and no page can be overloaded with them with out being a copyright violation. I like the page; but loose some of the pictures. Admrb♉ltz (tclog) 18:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The page is overloaded right now. Pathoschild (talk contribs) should not have made a gallery of fair use images, I believe there should only be 1 pic per charicter. Admrb♉ltz (tclog) 00:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

well, at least the page is much more neat, there ARE fewer pics and I created the model group at the bottom, Pathoschild (thank you) just turned it into a gallery, I like the two pic per character, it give viewers on one hand a coloured version and on the other, a full body view, plus with two pick on either side, it appears more even, don't you think?

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[edit] Extinctioners article

Hey there. Would you be opposed to my doing a major edit job on this article? I'm trying my best to find a way to save it from the AfD process, but the fact that most of the 'keep' opinions are from new or relatively new users is likely to play against it. I really think it needs to be pared down quite a lot - as one of the other people mentioned, cutting it down to a couple of pictures and removing all the detail about the characters would probably make it a lot more viable. If you're okay with it, I can give that a shot this afternoon and hopefully make it a bit safer. Let me know. Tony Fox 15:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree the article looked good with all the images, but if you compare it with other comics, like the Albedo article - a comic with a longer history than Extinctioners but similarities in publishing and market - it was just really overwhelming, I think. I'll do my best with it tonight. Cheers. Tony Fox 16:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey - checked out the WikiFur article - it looks pretty sharp. I like the breakouts for all the separate characters - it's nice that it can be expanded there. That's good stuff. The AfD is still ongoing, but I don't know whether a consensus has been reached at all - I think it's going to be fairly close to a no-consensus keep, but it will come down to the closing administrator's decision, and hopefully the reduced version will be okay. Really, the folks who started this are doing it for the best of the Wiki... it's amazing how minute the things that people think are important can be, and how much of a stress it can be to get rid of them. If they were to keep everything, it'd be a total mess. Extinctioners should probably qualify, but it really depends on the community consensus - we'll see. Tony Fox 02:35, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Let's not do anything too extensive to the article just now. I think some viewers will consider this version to be still too long, and if we started adding anything else in before the deletion debate closes, it could swing the final decision. (I'm surprised the debate hasn't closed, to be honest, but sometimes it takes a couple of extra days before an admin gets there.)Tony Fox 15:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
And it just closed as a no-consensus, which is basically a default keep. The thing is, it's likely to be tagged again in the future and the process will happen again, so major changes are definitely not advisable. Like I said when I did the rewrite, I think the main thing is to have an article here that will give people an idea of what the book is about, and if they want more, they can go to the WikiFur article for the big details. I think that's where it's at right now, anyhow... Tony Fox 16:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Messages from DragonMaster

Hey, no problem. Those images are awesome!

Why was the Extinctioners going to be deleted? I read through the deletion discussion, and it doesn't make any sense to me. They wanted to delete it because it wasn't a popular comic? -__-;;

I've never heard of the Extinctioners before. It looks like a really good comic. I need to read more furry comics. --DragonMaster 02:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I just checked it out, and it's really good. The only problem is that there's an image that cuts into the Table of Contents. The image is titled "Extinctioners_Banner." Other than that, though. It's amazing, especially since you haven't read the comics! That's really great work!

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know if there was a certain place messages had to go. -__-;; I'm still relatively new to this Wikipedia business. In regards to the banner, it must be my computer or something because even if I put the test size as small as it can be, it still covers the bottom of the table of contents. Maybe it's my monitor size, 800X600. Either way, it doesn't detract from the article, so it's not that big of a deal ^_~ --DragonMaster 19:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Extinctioners article

Hey there! Sorry I haven't responded sooner - I've been pretty tied up lately with work and travel, so haven't had much of a chance to take a look at the WikiFur version of the article. It looks solid! Lots of internal links and a decent layout. Nice job on that one. good to know the information's easy to find and use. (As for vandalism - that's a fact of life around here. There's always someone who wants to mess with the place...) Tony Fox (arf!) 15:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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