Talk:Russian nobility

[edit] Merge proposal

I agree that it should be merged. Gryffindor 13:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Disagreed. Dvoryanstvo is a special category of Russian nobility. Precisely because these notions are often conflated, the articles must be kept separately and, merge should go in opposite direction, and the current content must be restored to original state (namely, redirect to Russian nobility and royalty) until a good overview written. 23:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mikkalai (talk • contribs).
I desagree, aristocracy and nobility are conected conceptions, but the first is more comprehensive. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.18.166.239 (talk • contribs).

I also disagree because this title may be earned, while nobility connotes a hereditary honor 68.158.188.193 02:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC) Andrew

merge, the Dvoryanstvo page is so vague (and confusing) on the concept. If you look closely you can see that the translations of the two words (Дворянство) is the same on both pages. Unless the base Russian word is incorrect or the translation is wrong, Dvoryanstvo is Russian nobility. I'm tagging Dvo with a cleanup tag for the meantime. Radagast83 00:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Merge They are one and the same. One just has a Russian language title and the other an English-language one. Clearly, we should merge the Russian-language one to here, as this is the English-language encyclopedia. The unsigned comments from 68.158.188.193 are incorrect, nobility is not just hereditary: nobility can or could be inherited, bestowed, bought, and/or acquired by conquest. DrKiernan 15:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Agree. It is quite short and should be able to fit right in. Radagast83 03:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)