Talk:Runic divination

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[edit] Image

Does anyone have a better image than one using Blum's "runes?" Septegram 21:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with it? They're real runes, being seen upside-down. 惑乱 分からん 23:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Blum's "rune cookies" are a mishmash of runes from several different eras, and the interpretations he ascribes to them are not supported by any of the extant records. Furthermore, he includes the completely ahistoric "blank rune." I'd be happier with a shot of an Asatruar or someone from the Rune-Gild doing a runecasting based on the (admittedly paltry) historical information we have.

Septegram 13:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... I figured they were based on the Elder Futhark. Anyway, it seems hard to reconstruct just about anything from the sources that's available... For now, I think I'd prefer a description of Blum's methods, along with criticism. 惑乱 分からん 13:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe they draw from the Elder, Younger, and Anglo-Saxon Futharks, although I confess it's been years since I looked at them (I much prefer the ones I made myself, and Edred Thorsson's books on the subject). But the "blank rune" is definitely his invention. For myself, I'd be happier if the image was more historically accurate, since there's no record the ancients used anything but slips of wood for divination.

Anyhow, it's not a big deal. I just wondered if there was a better picture. If not, this one is at least using three from the same Futhark.

Septegram 14:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Runecasting

I'm for it. 惑乱 分からん 23:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Disagree with Germanic runic astrology being merged as this article should have it's own entry just like the following do: *Celtic astrology, *Western astrology, *Babylonian astrology, *Horoscopic astrology, *Hellenistic astrology, *Persian-Arabic astrology, *Medieval & Renaissance horoscopic astrology, *Uranian astrology, *Nahuatl astrology, *Maya astrology, *Chinese astrology, *Kabbalistic astrology, *Cosmobiology *Psychological astrology or astropsychology. It has it's own history and sub-histories and this needs an article of it's own. I think if it is left then those in the known can expand on it. FK0071a 13:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • the problem is that "Germanic runic astrology", unlike most of what you link here, is not historical, but cooked up in recent esoteric literature. Sure, it can in principle stay separate, like Uranian astrology. In this case, the term should be presented as a creation of Pennick. At present, the article seems to just lump together Germanic mysticists. It is unclear what is so "runic" about this. The bits connected with runes belong on Runic divination, the bits just generally waving at Germanic mysticism belong on Germanic mysticism. You really need to stop your listing of random items and begin to write coherent passages on topics. dab (𒁳) 15:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)