Talk:Rules of Settlers of Catan
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(Discussion moved from talk page of Settlers of Catan.) --Fritzlein 01:55, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Game mechanics in the main entry have been meticulously checked against the official rules. Please maintain this standard when contributing to it and its subsections. If you are unsure about a particular aspect, first check Mayfair Games's Rules Clarifications. Then start a new thread here, before changing the Settlers of Catan documentation by altering a rule that has already been checked, or adding details that may not be correct. Then we can all work to find out what the official word is, and someone can email rulesguru@mayfairgames.com if necessary. ~ stardust 16:33, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] questions regarding the official rules
- When discarding on a 7, are lost cards up or down? ~ stardust 16:42, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- I'd say up, as they end up back at the bank, which everyone has access to, otherwise the banker recieves an unfair advantage, as he knows what everyone has discarded Gentgeen.
- Uhm... official rules say face-down. ~ stardust 13:50, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- where? I've only got the normal game and the 5-6 expansion, and it's not explicitly stated in there. It does say that players keep the cards in their hand concealed, but there is no comment on the cards being concealed when discarding because of a 7. In the Almanac (pg. 12) in the example of discarding because of a 7, it tells us what cards the sample player returns to the pile, suggesting it is common knowldge. Gentgeen
- Uhm... official rules say face-down. ~ stardust 13:50, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- I'd say up, as they end up back at the bank, which everyone has access to, otherwise the banker recieves an unfair advantage, as he knows what everyone has discarded Gentgeen.
- During the Special Build Phase in 5 to 6 player games, are the only restrictions that
- no domestic, maritime, or bank trading is allowed, and
- no boats may be moved? ~ stardust 17:02, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- Is the Special Build Phase considered a turn, when determining if a newly purchased development card may be played? ~ stardust 17:09, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- Page six of the 5-6 player expansion states, Note that NO player is allowed to play development cards during the Speical Building Phase.
- Thanks, that answers the first question (I knew I'd forgotten something), but not the second. What counts as the turn of purchase, such that the card may be played on the turn immediately after? ~ stardust 23:26, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- Pg. 7 of the Settlers main rule book states, You may not play a development card on the turn you purchase it. As cards purchased during a special build phase technically occur between player turns, you should be able to play them as soon as your turn starts, as the card was in your possession at the beginning of the turn. Gentgeen
- Yeah okay, I buy into that last bit, nice interpretation. Thanks. ~ stardust 19:48, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- Pg. 7 of the Settlers main rule book states, You may not play a development card on the turn you purchase it. As cards purchased during a special build phase technically occur between player turns, you should be able to play them as soon as your turn starts, as the card was in your possession at the beginning of the turn. Gentgeen
- Thanks, that answers the first question (I knew I'd forgotten something), but not the second. What counts as the turn of purchase, such that the card may be played on the turn immediately after? ~ stardust 23:26, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- Page six of the 5-6 player expansion states, Note that NO player is allowed to play development cards during the Speical Building Phase.
- When moving the robber to a new square and choosing which available player you want to steal for, do you get to pick the resource to steal, or do you pick one from the opponent's faced-down cards? --Salty-horse 22:02, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- There is more than one victory point cards. The docs should at least state that, or go all the way and list them all. --Salty-horse 22:02, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I am way off topic here, but I would like to ask a few questions. I appologize for interupting your discussion, but I have recently played Settlers for the first time and I am totaly addicted. I wanted to know about the expansion sets. The official web pages don't give the actual rule books and they don't say if the two expansions (water, and cities) can be played at the same time or if they are sepparate. Do you guys know if there is a copy of the expansion rules on the net?
- So according to Richard Rowan at http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/31509 and http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/32811 it appears that Klaus Teuber has officially requested that the rules be changed to that trading and building are one phase, AND you are allowed to use ports you just built for trading, contrary to what it says on the wiki. Has there been additional information confirming/denying this, and should the wiki be changed? Dracil 20:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Settlers of Catan number tokens merged here
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Settlers of Catan number tokens. Johnleemk | Talk 16:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Resource Hoarding
I just got done playing a game of Settlers of Catan, but for part of the game we ran into a disagreement. One player was hoarding all the resources without spending them so that the bank went empty. We eventually convinced her to spend her cards and the game went on. I think this kind of strategy should be discouraged because it is an unfair strategy, just as camping is considered unfair in first person shooters. That is, if all players followed this strategy the game would come to a halt and never end. I haven't read anything about this anywhere so I don't know if it really should be a legitimate strategy. Any thoughts? --Mosquitopsu 04:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, nevermind. When rolling a 7, the problem would be cleared up. We did not know that. --Mosquitopsu 06:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Can't "bribe" for robber placement
Just FYI: You can't ever trade a card for no cards; ipso facto, you can't "bribe" to avoid the robber. It's on University of Catan under the Trading FAQ. It's a good variant, though, and one we use often. :) --MattShepherd 20:59, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article existence
I know a lot of people think very highly of this game, but doesn't this particular article violate WP:NOT Wikipedia is not a how-to guide? From the policy:
- Instruction manuals - while Wikipedia has descriptions of people, places, and things, Wikipedia articles should not include instruction - advice (legal, medical, or otherwise), suggestions, or contain "how-to"s. This includes tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, video game guides, and recipes. Note that this does not apply to the Wikipedia: namespace, where "how-to"s relevant to editing Wikipedia itself are appropriate, such as Wikipedia:How to draw a diagram with Dia. If you're interested in a how-to style manual, you may want to look at Wikihow or our sister project Wikibooks.--Crossmr 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
