User talk:Roswell native

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[edit] Henry F. Schaefer, III

I'm not sure I agree with your change of stub. The point of the stub is to attract people to work on the article to expand it and in this case I think we want to throw the net wider than UGA. I spent 5 months with Fritz in 1990. --Bduke 08:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe your arguments about the copyright issue were disingenuous. Please revert back to the form I left it as and wikify it as you see fit. The article about a scientist should really be about his accomplishments and not a forum for some sort of religious argument. I hope you agree. --Mathchem271828

(Note: Adding my reply originally placed on Mathchem271828's talk page as that user has chosen to delete them. --Roswell native 16:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC))

Mathchem, please assume good faith on my part, I certainly assume that of you. Disingenuous could easily be construed as a fancy word for lying - but I don't think that is what you meant. As I just stated on Talk:Henry F. Schaefer, III, the scientific info absolutely belongs on that page (and should be the main focus of the article IMO - although other previous editors may disagree), but it should not be a cut and paste from the site.
My concerns are these:
  • The material does have a copyright (which I think is probably not the case, but that's not sufficient reason to include it): Verbatim from Wikipedia:Copyright problems - "What's copyrighted? Copyright exists automatically upon creation in a tangible form. An author does not need to apply for or even claim copyright for a copyright to exist. Only an explicit statement that the material is in the public domain, licensed with the GFDL, or is otherwise compatible with the GFDL, makes material reusable under current policy, unless it is inherently in the public domain due to age or source."
  • I would like to prevent another edit war as that has already occurred for the non-scientific material on Fritz's wikipedia entry. Some editors that are very new to Wikipedia have accidentally (and innocently because of this inexperience IMO) stirred the flames so I'm erring on the cautious side of Wikipedia policy to insure folks stay cool.
  • Cutting and pasting goes against Wikipedia's guideline to not include copies of primary sources
Apologies for being so long-winded. I took a quick look at your edit history. Based on that I think you can be a very helpful source in making the HFS article a good one. I hope you choose to participate in that process. If you decide to revert that change back, feel free to do so knowing I won't revert it back in the near future, but I suspect other editors may do so, and I think a good bit of that info does need to be edited out (e.g. work locations of previous HFS students). Cheers. --Roswell native 06:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UGA template

First, I saw the stub, and I like it. I'm glad you made it happen, and I think it looks fine. Borrowing the userbox template (which is just modified from similar boxes!) is totally cool with me. I didn't know you had to register either, but thanks for taking care of that -- hopefully it will make some articles better.

Also, I think the template is a great idea, and when I get a chance I'll see if there are any changes that need to be made. But I think it's a really good start to tie all those articles together. Nice job, and thanks for keeping me in the loop! --SuperNova |T|C| 03:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

FYI, I made some edits and left a talk page message. --SuperNova |T|C| 22:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Centennial High School

Hi. I don't really know who to send this to, so i found you on the edit list for Centennial High School in Roswell, GA. I am a student there, and I check that page frequently for vandalism and every so often there are the same edits made by the same person, Kitra101. These edits are blatant lies and make no sense. I revert the page every time, but they keep coming back. Unfortunately, they don't have a user page that I can communicate with them on. Can you help me with this issue? Thanks. Lbr123 21:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] College Football Project

Hello, I noticed that you have edited a College football related article. You may be interested to know that there is a college football WikiProject which you can join if you like. We would love to have you! --Mecu 01:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tucker

Krakow's Georgia Place Names has it named after the Mercer/UGA Tucker http://www.kenkrakow.com/gpn/t.pdf I don't have a horse in this race, so whatever --Jolomo 13:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. --Jolomo 02:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Georgia county name etymologies

Hi! I have noted your work on Georgia counties. Very nice work! After discovering the List of Georgia counties, I was inspired to begin work on a county name etymology for Georgia. I just discovered this list today, but I think that my list can improve on this. I have been working on a subpage User:Ganymead/counties where I have added the information to a table and I'm currently sourcing the info as well as adding images of the county namesakes (where available). The point is really to bring this up to Featured List standard. Please take a look and see what you think. Thanks! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 17:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Roswell, Georgia

Please read Wikipedia:Profanity. Thank you. --NE2 00:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The relevant sentence is "However, when quoting relevant material from external sources, rendering a quote as it was originally spoken/written trumps our style guidelines." --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 00:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I responded on my Talkpage since you posted there. Thanks for sharing your well-thought comments :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] You are welcome

You really do deserve the barnstar. Thanks for reading my additions and, more importantly, correcting the typos and other screw-ups that you see. Tlmclain 03:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] New categories/organization in Category:University of Georgia

Roswell native: Thank you for including me in the consideration of these new categories. My initial thought was to completely defer to you because you have done so much work in the UGA space that you are obviously more in touch with the issues than I am (my contributions have been predominately related only to sports). However, since you asked for my views, I will give them to you – for whatever they are worth. If you really want to pursue an oganized catorization of all things Georgia, this hierarchy would be one way to do it:

Subcategories for University of Georgia

One additional issue to address with athletics is whether it is necessary or appropriate to distinquish between male and female atletics in common sports. That is already being done under basketball. If so, the above hierarchy would extend one more level. Basketball would look like this:

The current structure of University of Georgia basketball and Georgia Bulldogs football also highlights another issue - do players get listed as subcats of the team category and the athlete category or do we re-organize so that they appear in only one place?

It may be pre-mature to add some subcats at this time. For example, my perception is that there aren’t that many Georgia baseball players in Wikipedia at this time, so the subcat could be unpopulated or under-populated.

With respect to non-graduate attendees, I do wonder (i) whether there are enough people to warrant a subcat and (ii) whether the distinction is feasible. Particularly in the case of athletes, it may be difficult to determine who is a non-graduate attendee. Athlete bios don’t always focus on whether they actually graduated. In any event, you have a better feel for this

Some double-categorization may be inevitable, unless you tuck a subcat in more than one cat. With the hierarchy above, a football player would wind up in University of Georgia alumni and Georgia Bulldogs football players. Alternatively, you could make Georgia Bulldogs football players a subcat of both Georgia Bulldogs players and University of Georgia alumni and perhaps avoid double-categorization. However, I don’t mind double-categorization since part of the goal of categorization is to make it easy for users to browse through similar articles. In other words, since some may browse by alumni and some by player, double-categorization may be a good thing.

Finally, as if this isn’t already a big enough project, it may be a good idea to look at managing the various lists in existence (and any that are needed). In other words, how should the athlete listing List of University of Georgia people be managed vis-à-vis the list Georgia Bulldogs football#Former Notable Players and any list that might be created to list all former players.

You'll probably never ask me a question again. Tlmclain | Talk 14:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Roswell native: Thanks for the link to the alumni directory - I probably was notified of it, but blew it off. It is handy.--Tlmclain | Talk 16:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image help

Roswell native - The images that I loaded today on some UGA football players have been tagged as having possible fair use problems. Today was the first time I ever used the fair use rationale. If you can help me fix these images, it would be a great help. The discussion is here. Thanks.--Tlmclain | Talk 18:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reps

House websites say that Linder served in the 11th District until Jan. 2003, and then his distrct was renumbered as the 7th for the next Congress. Gringley became the new rep. of the 11th district in Jan. 2003. Hope this straightens it out. VitaleBaby 03:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits to Georgia

Roswell native: In connection with your edits to create a table at Georgia for the micropolitian area, I stayed away from editing those earlier because 1) I don't think the same references work for the metro and mocro areas and 2) I really don't think we need to be including this information in the main article on Georgia. On top of that, based upon edits made by Polaron, I think the listed references may be wrong anyway (see my comments here. In other words, the answer to the question in your edit summary (there are the same aren't they?) is probably no.--Tlmclain | Talk 03:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

No harm whatsoever. I had just been trying to figure out whether to go ahead and delete the micros when along came Polaron to cause me to realize that the metro table is probably screwed up, too. I really hate removing material that someone has devoted effort to create. However, if you ever had any doubt that the article on Georgia needs a lot of work, take a look at Minnesota, a state article that just reached FA status. Anyway, I've had enough fun for the day. I'll ge back to this later in the week.--Tlmclain | Talk 04:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UGA Category hierarchy

Roswell Native: Good thoughts on the categorization of UGA people. While we’re at it, we might as well look at the entire category structure for UGA (good news – I saw no other changes that are needed at this time). Here is the entire hierarchy as I see it (I made a few minor changes to what you had done on my talk page, but failed to highlight them):

Category:University of Georgia

Some of the cats may not need to be created yet because there's not much to put in them. Once we are satisfied with the hierarchy structure, I think the structure should be posted at the top of the UGA talk page in a box so that other editors can (1) understand how to categorize articles and (2) understand the format to be used in connection with the creation of new UGA categories.

Of course, the foregoing structure will require some category clean-up. Here’s what I have noted so far:

What do you think? We can probably go live with this pretty soon. --Tlmclain | Talk 14:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Going Live

I was actually thinking about how to get this underway this before I got your message. For the "box" on the talk page, I am now thinking that we may want to create a template that we can add to the talk pages of all significant UGA articles and at the top of the categories themselves. If the hierarchy information shows up in several places, then maybe we won't be spending all of our time re-categorizing new articles. In any event, lets get the template ready, put it out there and then start creating the new categories and start re-categorizing articles. I'll start on the template on my sandbox and let you know when there is something to review.--Tlmclain | Talk 13:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

A first pass at the template is ready for your review and editing help on my sandbox. You will quickly notice that I used your UGAtemplate as a go-by and messed it up. Please do whatever you can to improve it and feel free to edit it however you deem best. --Tlmclain | Talk 14:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I am also wondering when you are going to start using your UGAtemplate - I think it looks great. --Tlmclain | Talk 20:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Schaefer

In that case, it would be helpful if you could get the editors who just showed up to understand that. Multiple attempts on the user talk page have resulted in no replies. 3RR warnings have already been given. JoshuaZ 17:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Just put the same notice on one of the editor's talk page. If that's unsuccessful, then the editors in violation need to be reported. I thought the 3RR policy should be clearly stated on the Schaefer talk page as well since the page seems to be drawing more attention.--Roswell native 17:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia (US State)

sorry about the this user is from georgia thing i meant to post it in my user page, again sorry.--Good ol' boys 20:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject

I haven't wandered into a Wikiproject yet so I really don't know much about what's involved. If you think that is the next step, I'll help - but you will probably have to tell me what to do. --Tlmclain | Talk 21:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

There is something strange going on with my talk page, but I don't think you did it. The [edit] above a section works for two sections below, instead of the one directly below. . . . As to your suggestion, if you will fix my template for the category hierarchy, I say we create the template, post it on the UGA talk page and have at it. The reason I want to start with posting the template on the talk page is that it will help us (me) keep up with how it all fits together.--Tlmclain | Talk 04:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New cats

After thinking about it last night, I decided that there was no reason to delay starting the work pending the creation of the Category hierarchy template - it may still be very handy to have complete when we request the handful of category renames and the deletion of that one category. In any event, I created a few of the new cats last night and just finished placing a few folks in the categories. Before doing much more, I thought it maight be good for you to look at the handful that I've done so far - I think it may be a representative sampling.--Tlmclain | Talk 22:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template

Ok - I went ahaead and started Template:UGAcats, but it still has a few problems. The main problem is that I cannot get the right-hand border to line-up - I can't figure out how you got it to work on your template. By the way, I took out all of the future cats for now - its probably better to add them when we need them instead of filling the template with dead links. If you get it looking nice, go ahead and post it on the talk page for UGA.--Tlmclain | Talk 00:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

You da man! Well done - it looks great. By the way, I have gone ahead and proposed the three cats that we identified for renaming and the one cat that we identified for deletion.
Here's a Wiki Cookie for Roswell native for outstanding formatting efforts on Template:UGAcats.{Given by Tlmclain 7 December 2006)
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[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On December 13, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Emily Dolvin, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks very much Roswell native for creating this interesting article which was nominated kindly by GeeJo. Feel free to self-nom in future, like the majority of entries. Keep up the great work! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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