Talk:Roseanne (TV series)
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[edit] Sal Barone
Sal Barone was in a single episode so I don't think he really needs to be in the box under "Starring." He's already mentioned in the main article. Garfield226 19:59, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- This is interesting "Sal Barone was casted as DJ Conner on the new show Roseanne, however, due to problems with cast member Sara Gilbert, who played Darlene Conner, his mother took him off the cast. He was replaced with Michael Fishman." One wonders what this might have been. 67.5.157.183 05:35, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Eh. He was eight, Gilbert was 13. Sometimes kids don't get along. I don't read much into it. Garfield226 18:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Class
Can Roseanne's family really be considered lower middle class, and not working class or lower class altogether? I understand the desire for those in the working classes not to want to call themselves lower or working class, but, objectively, the Conner family is a working class family.
Sometimes lower middle class and working-class are used interchangeably actually. Lower class and working class refer to different groups most of the time.
[edit] Move to Subpage
Since the comedienne/star has been known as "Roseanne" for the lion's share of her career, I think it's more likely visitors will look up that word expecting to find a biography rather than a blurb about her sitcom. I think the Roseanne Barr article should be moved here; and the current article should be moved to a subpage, Roseanne_(TV_show) (or some such designation). Anyone agree/disagree?
- I agree...but I think instead i'll add a little title at the top. --FlareNUKE 02:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Kevin/David
When we first meet David, he introduces himself as Kevin, Mark's brother. Darlene recognizes him from detention. After that he is called David. Roseanne explains much later that "David isn't even his real name - [Darlene] just made that up!" - Laszlo Panaflex 06:47, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I remember that. I'll add it into the article. bob rulz 07:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Whoa, I added it in there, why was it removed? bob rulz 04:35, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Now it gives the full back story, mentions the line, but does not say what the line is!
[edit] Final Season
The article says that the lottery plot of the show's final season was the result of writing control being taken away from Roseanne. I remember the news back in the mid-90s when she might have lost some creative control over the show, but she's made it pretty clear in interviews (most notably the cast reunion on Larry King Live this past October) that the Conners' winning the lottery was her idea, or at least she completely supported it. --relaxathon 06:12, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, found the Larry King transcript. Roseanne completely contradicts the Wikipedia article as far as losing creative control and who was responsible for the final season:
- KING: All right. The show declined in its last year when you won a lottery and got rich. Was that a mistake Roseanne?
- BARR: What?
- KING: The winning the lottery and changing the...
- BARR: That's what I wanted to do. The debate rages on.
- GOODMAN: There you go.
- BARR: It's like people are going (INAUDIBLE) but hey that's what I wanted to do and I did it and, you know, I had the power to do what I wanted to do...
- KING: I know.
- BARR: ...which no artist in television has anymore the power to do what they want to do and to say what they want to say and I had it and I did it and I'm proud of it and, yes, I won the lottery in my real life and since the show is about my real family, it was only fitting to me that they did win the lottery.
- I'll alter the ending section to reflect that.
[edit] Theme song?
I think I just heard it in a Honda comercial.--Gbleem 01:04, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I thought I heard it in a car commercial too, but let's wait to see if this is confirmed.
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EDIT: I confirm that, I was wondering that, was mad at it too :-|.
[edit] Two Issues
"Fisher (played by Matt Roth) Fisher dated Jackie. Dan beat him up after it was found out that he abused Jackie while they were dating. Matt Roth was once in a long-term relationship with Laurie Metcalf (Jackie Harris)." -- is this a real life dating relationship, or a dating relationship in the show? I assume because the actor's real names are used, it was a real-life dating relationship. However, this should be made clearer.
Its also implied (although nowhere explicitly stated) that Roseanne, as a good mother, attempted to install morals in her children. There are several occassions, however, when Roseanne attempts to do the wrong thing, and is caught by the children and continues to do the wrong thing. One such example is when she was working at the diner, the factory accidentally sent two extra stoves, one of which was sold for profit. DJ asked Roseanne about this, and Roseanne ended up not selling the last extra stove as planned and returned it to the factory, giving the impression that this was the right thing to do. She also cut Leon in the ill-conceived gainings, upon DJ's complaining (she was not planning on doing this to begin with). This is just one of a few examples. Perhaps the "Roseanne" character paragraph should be reworded to reflect these changes? --Jpawloski 18:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah but at the end of the episode she gives in to DJ's wishes and stops that.
[edit] Parents in Moline
In the episode "An Officer and a Gentleman" in season two, Roseanne goes to visit her parents who live in Moline, Illinois. I think this would be a good addition to the extended family section, but I'm not quite sure where to add it, considering each parent has its own bulleted paragraph. Should it be mentioned that they lived in Moline for each?
I also find it interesting that they started a loose-meat sandwich restaurant. There is a popular chain of Maid-Rite restaurants in and around Moline that may have influenced this. For some reason I remember hearing that they got the idea from visiting her parents in Moline, but I can't verify it. Maybe someone else can?
--Bdmathias (3-2-2006)
- Actually, I'm pretty sure Jackie came up with the idea for the restaurant. I believe she said she stopped at the restaurant while on one of her truck routes, and even mentions a specific place name (state or city), although I can't recall it at the moment. Nor can I recall where her parents lived, but Moline does ring a bell. Garfield226 04:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia Section?
Should there be a trivia section added to the main article? I don't know what the policy is in other TV show articles (Cheers doesn't have one...Full House does, etc.). Example: Fictional Lanford, IL is located in real Fulton County (thus when DJ and his girlfriend skipped school and caught the bus to Chicago, it was probably about a 200-mile trip!). Garfield226 04:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think that's a great idea. It'd be a nice place to add the fact about Roseanne's parents being from Moline, Illinois.
- --Bdmathias 06:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
- No there is no guideline, it's just that nobody has yet to add one or there is no trivia. --FlareNUKE 04:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Is it trivia worthy that a young big-haired George Clooney was in the pilot episode (8801) as Roseanne's boss? Probably not, maybe more for a Clooney page. TotalTommyTerror 08:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Series Finale Fantasies
"Becky with David and Darlene with Mark" So was this saying that some of the major occurances like in season three, of Becky dating Mark were entirely not an actual part of the story as revised from the end episode? or did Becky actually date Mark all that time and Darlene David, but when they separated they 'switched' and actually married the opposite brother? This would explain more why Roseanne would switch it around in fantasy. 67.5.157.183 05:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)]
In the series finale, at the end, Roseanne says "When Darlene brought home Mark, I thought he would go much better with Becky. And when Becky brought David, I thought he was more Darlene's type. So, I did what any good mother does; I fixed." Or something along those lines. So, in reality (as in, not the book Roseanne was writing in the show, but the reality in the show), Mark and David were going out with the opposite sister than they were in the "fiction" of the show (when Roseanne is making a story of it.)
[edit] Jackie Harris Moved to the Main Character Section
As a die hard Roseanne fan and having watched the show for many years I felt that Jackie was one of the main characters in the show seeing how she played Roseanne's Sister. I moved her material to the main character section!
Excellent! To me, she pretty much was Roseanne's other half!
A LITTLE EDIT: Even though I'm only 13, I love Roseanne, just like you, a diehard :-D. I just though I'd add this. Oh, and I'm glad that you moved it to the main characters! She should be like the 4th in the credits :-).
[edit] Petition
Please place all discussion regarding whether to include the petition here. (sorry for the delay. I realize now I put my comments on the talk page for Roseanne rather than this one.) -- Garfield226 22:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I think the petition should stay because if it does then it will get alot of signatures. -- Heegoop 19:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Please read What Wikipedia is not: Wikipedia is not a soapbox. This is not the place for advocacy. -- Garfield226 00:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Charlotte
I just saw a show with Charlotte and Molly. Who are they? Were they just in that one episode? --Gbleem 06:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, they were in a few episodes...I think those two characters only lasted one season though. No more than two seasons. bob rulz 08:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Final Episode
I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to make a separate page for the Final Episode that the TV page can point to. I only breach the subject because the last season was obviously a complete departure from the series, but the last episode in particular was so significant, and had so many reversals and changes, and just plain turned everything on it's ear. I'm considering creating one, if youall think it would be wise. What say you, fellow Wikipedians? :) LLBBooks 08:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] faber
who played faber? was it that DA guy from Law & Order (something dalton i think his name is)
[edit] Mark's Season Three Debut
I am not clear on how Mark's debut in Season Three demonstrates that "many parts of the series from seasons three through nine were just fantasy and a part of her book that she had started to write in the end of season two," as stated in the "Series Finale" section of the article. Please advise, Thanks!
