User talk:Roodog2k

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[edit] Stubs

Hi. Thank-you very much for your contributions to Wikipedia! I noticed that you were typing out the entire text of the stub boilerplate. For the future, it's better just to use {{stub}}. This not only ensures that you have the most recent version, but it also saves you a bunch of time! Thanks. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 17:30, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Minpins

How did I do it? Closed my eyes, clicked my heels three times, and said "There's no place like..." oh, wait, that's something else. OK, long-winded answer...

There is a Wikiproject concerning making an attempt to have all of the articles about all of the breeds be consistent. The project's page lists other people who have been involved off & on in the dog effort and shows what ought to be in the articles at a minimum and provides a nifty table template that you can just copy and paste. To do that, click Edit This Page, scroll down to the template, and copy everything including the beginning comment that says "this is the table...." to the ending comment that says "...end of template" and paste it into the top of your breed page. Then you just go through and edit it. There's a spot in the default table for an image, so you can go there to see how to include it in your minpin table.

The most time-consuming part is getting the links to the breed standards. If you do a Show Preview after pasting the table, the links in the Standards section of the table each go to a page for the club that provides access to all the breeds--go there, get the URL for your breed, and paste it in place of the URL for all the breeds. It sounds messy, but it's not really all that bad once you've done it a couple of times. (And I already did it for minpin, so you're free.)

You can find more about table markup (which we're using instead of HTML markup) at m:Help:Table (hmmm, I thought there was a tutorial on it but I don't see it at the moment).

As for uploading images, click the Upload File link--I believe it should appear in your left-side menu on any page--which takes you to a page that tells you what you need to do. Especially keep in mind:

  • Name the image file something useful, so "MiniaturePinscher_roodog.jpg" rather than "Fluffyfoo.jpg". And be sure to specify who took the photo and whether it's licensed under GFDL or you're releasing into the public domain or whatever--you can indicate by including {{GFDL}} or {{pd}} on the image page when it tells you it's successfully uploaded-and-go-here-to-add-information.

Hope this helps and isn't too scary. Elf | Talk 01:11, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopedia

Roodog2k, I appreciate your time trying to educate me about Wikipedia. I am glad that you found my content humorous, however while you found it humorous, it was actually entered as legitimate content for Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. An encyclopedia is a written compendium of knowledge. A compendium is a comprehensive compilation of a body of knowledge.

By deleting my content you are removing knowledge from the compendium instead of expanding it. Rather than deleting the content perhaps you could instead rework it so that it better fits what you believe is good for the article. By deleting it then telling me to redo it how you would like it, is a bit insulting. Users are supposed to improve upon the content added by others, not just delete what they don't like. Thanks for your time and understanding. Wwwacky 03:32, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

BTW, Pvt. Benjamin Buford 'Bubba' Blue knew every way to prepare shrimp.

For the record, the content you added, which is not of your own creation and further uncited, could constitute a copyright violation. Furthermore, you should not be insulted, as I approached the subject respectfully.Roodog2k 17:21, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

I am astounded that you are now accusing me of a copyright violation. Prior to being so bold, perhaps you could investigate what a copyright violation actually is, rather than stating that uncited work could be a violation. I have reviewed the entire article, and not one part of it is cited. Let's review your statements.

"I found your post funny, but it may work better, as a quote from Forrest Gump within the article" - You thought it was funny; so must it be deleted because you don't like funny content on Wikipedia (It is not a joke; it is a list of food). You thought food preparation should be attributed to Forrest Gump. Instead of doing that yourself (which would have been inappropriate to do because there is no way to cite it) you directed me to do it.

"content you added, which is not of your own creation and further uncited, could constitute a copyright violation" - I added it, and no I did not invent shrimp cocktail or coconut shrimp, however I do not believe their inventors are the only ones that can include them on Wikipedia (a free-content encyclopedia that anyone can edit). I have eaten them in several restaurants and even my home. The names of food preparation are not protected by copyright.

"you should not be insulted, as I approached the subject respectfully" - You told me how you wanted me to edit an article, then when I point out that you can take responsibility to improve Wikipedia rather than deleting content, you decide since there is no cite, it could be a copyright violation. How is that respectful and not insulting? Please think about this more carefully before your next episode of haphazard deleting then 'educating' of Wikipedians. Wwwacky 05:12, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I defer to the WP Admin on this one. Roodog2k 23:32, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] High (atmospheric)

Just wondering about your rationale for gutting this article. While I have no difficulty with someone coming in and editing, I would anticipate that the article would be better off afterward. It seems you threw away a lot of pertinent information (the fact, for instance, that a high pressure area is an area of subsidence). Denni☯ 22:49, 2004 Dec 30 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your quick response. Just a couple of comments. It's not a bad idea to put a few comments on the article's talk page - had I found there what you provided me with, I'd not have asked any questions. You also noted the changes to this article as minor, where in fact they were quite major. A minor change would be correcting a misspelled word or supplying a missing capital letter. I know you're new to Wikipedia, and I'd like you to feel you're getting off on the right foot. Welcome. Denni☯ 00:44, 2004 Dec 31 (UTC)

[edit] Minpins

Nope, not picking on you--do you want me to? ;-)

I'm just the Crazed Editor who crawls out of her box periodically and cleans things up towards the models we've been using in all the dog breed articles. They try to lock me in, but I still get out--

OK, I didn't check the appearance in every browser at every revolution (OK, I usually don't check at all, just use standard markup), but I figure that if it doesn't display perfectly, it's a flaw in the browsers not in the input--and a single line before a heading is std in wikipedia. Also, in the dog articles (and indeed in most articles in wikipedia), in most cases the thumbnails are allowed to fall to the default size rather than stating explicitly, because I believe users can define the personal desired default size (or if they can't now, there were plans to implement it)--I always just use the defaults so I can see what most users see when they come to the site. We do put the 250px size on the ones inside the breed infoboxes but that's usually it.

And anyway even with the smaller size of the puppy photo, the actual image of the dog is still larger than the dog in the main photo! :-) You wouldn't happen to be in a mood to crop down the main photo original so that we can have a bigger picture of the adult (Pav?) in the main box, would you? Elf | Talk 06:30, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Cropping wouldn't be a bad idea. I am a little concerned, b/c the quality of the image isn't that great, but I think it'll be OK for now. Roodog2k 23:49, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recent High and Low changes

I had a bit of difficulty understanding your recent changes to the articles above, not because they are incorrect, but because I cannot understand what you are talking about. :)

Please try to adjust your changes into more layman terms, or put a {{cleanup-technical}} template there so someone else will. Wikipedia is for the general public, so using technical terms defeats the purpose of the article being informative, especially if the person reading it has no background on the subject.

But on the positive side, sounds like you know what you are talking about. :) --tomf688 (talk) 21:03, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dim mak

Sorry about the copyright. I was going to edit this into my own words later today. Also I just discovered that there is already a article about this subject, although i can't find it using search before. So feel free to delete this article. KeithV 17:15, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ingredients lists

Thanks for your support on this! You may wish to comment on a proposal in Village pump (proposals). -SCEhardt 00:37, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Done! Roodog2k 19:26, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Montmajour

Hey, thanks for stubbing my article, I forgot. And yes, gallery is wiki. I'm not really happy with the layout of the images, but there isn't enough text for them to just go down the side I think. --Chammy Koala 09:40, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks for the info about gallery. Roodog2k 13:27, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Catholic

Yes, sorry - the proper name of a document should not have been changed - that was over-zealous on my part. I'll revert if you have not done so already.

The term 'Catholic' is problematic. To declare my bias I'm presbyterian. But I also consider myself (as do most Protestant theologicans) to be Catholic/catholic. Part of the Holy Catholic and Universal Church (as per the apostles' creed). Indeed my denomination make the claim explicit [1].

The Roman Catholic Church, sometimes wishes to reserve the title 'Catholic' to itself and denominations related to it (which share the same interpretation of apostolic succession). That claim is rejected by most protestants - who would state that all true Trinitarian Christian denominations are part of the one Catholic Church.

Thus, in an NPOV encyclopedia, it would be incorrect to label the Roman Catholic Church and its immediately related denominations as 'the' Catholic Church - or as the sum total of Catholicism, since that is a contested point of view.

(Please don't interprete this as being 'anti-Roman Catholic' - it is rather pro-ecumenical)--Doc Glasgow 18:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Naw, its cool. The terminology is often misleading and unclear. My point was not to make a distinction from Protestants, rather to be more inclusive regarding the Eastern Rite Churches in full communion with Rome. See this link for what I mean... [2]

Roodog2k 19:29, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

  • I see - probably using something like 'churches in communion with Rome' or 'churches recognising the primacy of the Holy See' would be uncontentious. Cheers --Doc Glasgow 19:39, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel Kaszor VFD

  • Please read the Guide to the Votes for Deletion. Merge and delete is not a compatible vote. The GFDL requires the edit history to be retained if something is merged and deleting it, would kill the edit history. Merging histories is also no good, because it would mess up the diffs between subsequent edits in the time period both articles were edited. - Mgm|(talk) 21:28, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
    • My bad. Roodog2k 22:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


[edit] English on the Internet

I re-worked the English on the Internet page as was suggested. I think it quite makes the cut now if you'd like to check it out again. Marskell 16:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Glad you like changes. Obvious topic, really. Do you think you could make an "unequivocal" keep vote noting you re-checked it? I have a feeling the deletes before changes might still take the day. Marskell 19:22, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dachshund

It's been years since I worked on that article, back when Wikipedia was a wilder and woolier place. I wish I'd noted my sources at the time. Unfortunately it's hard to find primary sources, so my information came from a couple of modern books and online sources. In particular, Stephen Michelson has a widely distributed FAQ in which he mentions stonings, etc. and provides a general bibliography. Unfortunately I don't have access to the books he references, so I can't tell where they get their information. Hence, it's possible that the information is apocryphal. I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave it to you to figure it out, but I will check back if I find anything more specific. Here's one version of the FAQ, btw:

http://www.wildpromotie.nl/Jagerslatijn/dachshund-2.htm

Dachshund 03:58, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Scarface references in south park

You were the only one who made a vote other than delete. Here is the text if you want to try and merge it. (To be honest it looked an OK articlet to me.) -- RHaworth 08:00:55, 2005-08-28 (UTC)

There are two that I know of others please help out:

1. The song "Scarface (Push it to the Limit)" is playing in the montage sceens of Cartman and Jimmy preparing for the Special Olympics in the Up the Down Steroid episode. In the movie this song was playing in the montage scenee in the middel of the movie where Tony Montana was buying a house, getting married, and cetera.

2. Eric Cartman's skit in the talent show in the Episode "Talent Showes are for Fags" is a soliloquy from Scarface, at the end of the movie when Tony Montana was leaving the fancy restaurant. However the outfit Cartman wear for the talent show recital was one of Tony Montantas leisure suits and while Tony Montanae himself in the movie was wearing a tuxedo at the time.

3. I AM SURE THERE ARE MORE PLEASE HELP!

[edit] KBPPBBPA

That's fine. Turning a redirect into a stub only requires some boldness anyway. Whether I had speedy-closed the debates or not, the same could have been done. I'm glad you know your callsigns! -Splash 14:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Cool, Didnt want you to be insulted. Roodog2k 14:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
    • I wouldn't be insulted by boldness. Anyway, yeah, that sounds ok. By the way, you might want to make lowercase redirects too, since then the search engine will pick them up whatever capitalisation someone searches with. If you decide you'd actaully prefer the -FM redirect to go away, you can take it to WP:RfD. -Splash 15:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fordson High School

The article has been rewritten with external references to illustrate that the school has existed since the 1920s, including a historical building which cost more than $2.2-million to raise (a significant sum during the 20s). Silensor 19:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heads up on dog lost to cancer

Thanks for mentioning it; I left some info on his talk page. Elf | Talk 18:50, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Nice one, mate. Your intervention when the VfD started to look like getting snide and nasty was well-timed. Tonywalton  | Talk 21:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure about "supersensitive" on VfD - when I come across "hey u bastidz this the kewlest band in Seatle u betr KEEP ITT" I tend to get a bit WP:BITE. But this was obviously somebody trying to do his best. Which is good. Tonywalton  | Talk 23:17, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Samuel Krafsur

Regarding Krafsur notability, please see Talk:Samuel_Krafsur#1433.2C_1435, and other relevent discussions on the page (according to decrypts, the guy was the KGB's prime source for FDR's "thinking"). Thank you. nobs 05:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Userfication?

I was wondering why you decided to userfy Tanja Louise Stephen? There was no particular evidence that it was meant for userspace, really. It's not really necessary to userfy articles that new accounts make unless it is plainly obvious they are talk about themselves (which this article isn't) or they request it, or it is very obviously userpage material (which this isn't). I know it's not biting newbies and stuff, but sometimes their articles just need deleting, not retaining. thanks. -Splashtalk 01:00, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Near Vertical Incidence Skywave

good job on the rewrite. I changed my vote.--Alhutch 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ottawa municipal election, 2006

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't give you the right to attack me. WP:NPA. -- Spinboy 16:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek reference to Bob & Doug McKenzie. Didn't meant o hurt your feelings. Roodog2k (Hello there!) 18:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
That's okay, I appreciate the clarification. Thank you for that. No hard feelings. :-) -- Spinboy 20:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
No worries! Roodog2k (Hello there!) 22:10, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ham Radio!

Please see the discussion at Category talk:Amateur Radio Operator for a discussion on how to identify Hams and Ham personalities on Wikipedia. Steve Kd4ttc 02:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essex County, New Jersey Map

Thanks for reminding me about the legends on some of the county municipality maps. I've gone back and made them all consistent to eliminate the "Incorporated Municipality" terminology. JimIrwin 23:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NJ Collaboration of the Week

Thanks for participating in Wikiproject New Jersey. In an attempt to create articles for some of the non-existing pages related to New Jersey, NJCOTW was recently created to bring members of WP:NJ together to work collaboratively on a certain selected topic, which this week is List of Governors of New Jersey. Please help by nominating/voting/commenting on articles on WP:NJCOTW, or by helping to improve articles in the scope of the topic for the NJCOTW. AndyZ 00:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minpin rescue link

About removing the minpin rescue link--just because something has existed for a long time on wikipedia doesn't inherently make it permanent. I've found vandalism that's been in place for many months and not changed, for example, but I don't have to leave it there bcause it was missed earlier. :-) (I'm not, of course, suggesting that the rescue link is vandalism). Rescue links are removed from breed articles usually when someone's paying attention. Because WP isn't a collection of links, it's encyclopedic, external links should enhance the description of "what is a minpin" but not "where do I get one", or we'd need to add "where do I get one" kinds of links to everything. And although I'm all for rescue (most of my dogs have been rescues), I think that a collection of lists of recues & breeders & other sources for all breeds of dogs is contrary to what WP's about. Elf | Talk 20:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that external links should be "what is a minpin", not "where do I get one". Elf | Talk 20:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism--sorry, I wasn't clear about that. There wasn't vandalism on minpin page for long periods. What I meant was that I've sometimes found junk on wikpedia that's been there for a very long time, so the mere fact tht something has been on wikipedia for a long time is not an inherent argument that it therefore has a right to be there. (I work at home and my boss (me) frowns on me spending time on this stuff, too, but here I am again...) Elf | Talk 20:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gulfside United Methodist Assembly

Hey, don't take this as a personal attack, because it isn't. Its only a friendly suggestion. The guy who was writing the article is a newbie making his first contribution to wikipedia. Seventy minutes into writing the article, its nominated for deletion. Next time, maybe there would be a better way to handle the situation? I'm not saying you were right or wrong, just saying... Roodog2k 00:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The only personal attack in this is the poster who went so far as to accuse me of racism. Hey I made a judgment call based on the information I had. Everyone thinks their organization, their film, their company, their school, whatever is special. And I have no doubt that they really believe they are special. Most of the time, they aren't. Most of the time, my judgment call is correct. If in this case I was hasty, well it isn't the first time and it won't be the last. In the past, I've probably prodded something I shouldn't and wavered on something that I should have speedied. People have different opinions on what should be included. When I roll through the new articles the sheer quantity of crap is mindboggling. As I said, I made a judgment call and this time it was wrong. But I am right more often tham I am wrong. And that's where I'll leave it.

[edit] Essex County demographics / current problems

I have been unhappy with the Essex County, New Jersey demographics and current problems sections from the moment I laid eyes on the article. Just the presence of the phrase "Pasta Triangle" should start bells ringing. I will do what I can to source what can be backed up and rewird can be redeemed. But I agree that it needs to be repaired or removed. Alansohn 17:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PsyD

You might be able to clarify the American useage from your wife's knowledge. Does her PhD include the clinical training, or is that something conducted alongside the PhD? From my knowledge of other countries, the PhD is a garden variety PhD, mostly not on a clinical topic, and has no clinical component. The clinical aspect of the training runs in parallel (usually 1-2 years full-time clinical, clinical half-time/PhD half-time, then 1-2 years completing the PhD research; with the PhD and clinical components examined separately, and awarded as distinct qualifications; however you can't do *only* the clinical qualification without a higher research degree). --Limegreen 21:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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