Talk:Ronald Collé
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This article was nominated for deletion on 15 March 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
I have proposed this article for deletion because it is a biography of not-very-notable person. A Google search for Ronald Collé got 110 hits. This article was started by User:Necrypsys, who is the sole contributer to K.A. Maroufi-Collé, and who has edited only one other article. I raise the possibility that Necrypsys is the child of K.A. Maroufi-Collé and Ronald Collé, which would also make this fall under Wikipedia:Vanity guidelines. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 00:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, and if you are incompetent, you won't check the forms likely to appear in citations to journal articles, "R Colle" 953 hits, "R Colle" and "Colle R" 11,800 hits. Many of them are not this Ronald Colle, of course—but many of them are.
- Repeating what I said on my talk page: My major point is that there is enough doubt there to make it not non-controversial. Use WP:AfD instead; it doesn't belong in this test-stage, as-yet-unapproved shortcut procedure, and if you keep nominating things that might be controversial, then that procedure may never be approved.
- We have articles about every fictional Pokemon character, and they appear to be more prolific than rabbits. We have articles about some Bangladeshi cricketer who played one "test match" back in the 1950s.
- It's about time the sciences get a fair shake in comparison to sports and entertainment figures, and fictional characters of all sorts
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- Where's your evidence that none of the professional journals in which he is published has a circulation of 5,000?
- Publishing in those journals is one thing. Isn't being the editor of one of those professional journals also evidence of notability?
- Note further that the template itself says, probably not clearly enough, that a way to get it out of this speedy process for non-controversial deletions is to delete the template.
- In addition to your speculations about the original contributor to this article and your guessing as to his or her motives, a "Profcolle" is also a contributor to this article. That may well be the subject of this article, or his wife. But so what? Note carefully that that, in itself, is not grounds for deletion of the article, even if it is him or her. Gene Nygaard 22:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Applying the professor test (If the individual is more well known and more published than an average college professor) I would say maybe. Most of his papers have citation counts in the single digits to mid-teens, which is respectable but not evidence that he is more highly regarded than the average professor in his field; however a couple of his articles have very high citation counts (unless there is more than one R Colle in the field of physics). Regarding the word "incompetent", WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA please.Thatcher131 22:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Cleanup
This article needs to be cleaned up to meet wikipedia's guidelines, see the manual of style, and Wikipedia:your first article. Also see the guidelines on articles about living people, WP:BIO. This article does not cite any sources, see the policy on verifiability. Mr. Colle may have done some notable things in his career but this article is written in much too much detail for an encyclopedia and does not cite any sources verifying the claims. It may be subject to deletion if verifiability can not be established. Thanks.
[edit] Copyright violation
The large chunk of text beginning CAREER BIOGRAPHICAL HIGHLIGHTS by Dr. Bert M. COURSEY is a copyright violation unless Dr. Coursey himself posted the information or the poster has permission from Dr. Coursey per the WP:GFDL copyright license that applies to wikipedia. Even without the copyright problem it is much too long and not encyclopedic in style. Please rewrite it in a brief, encylopedic style to conform to wikipedia's manual of style and to avoid copyright problems. Thank you. Thatcher131 21:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Porturology (talk • contribs), why did you copyvio the whole article? I didn't see any problems with the top paragraph. Thatcher131 23:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Whos who
Copied from the article. They might go into a reference section eventually, but who's who is generally not a very discriminating source.Thatcher131 03:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Biographical Listings (first listings)include:
- American Men and Women in Science, 14th ed. Bowker Co. (1979) through 26th ed. (2005).
- Who's Who in Technology Today, 3rd ed. Dick Publ. (1982); 4th ed. (1984).
- Who's Who in the East, 19th ed., Marquis (1984).
- Who's Who in America, 42nd ed., Marquis (1987) through 60th ed (2006)
- Who's Who in the World 24th ed., Marquis (2007).
[edit] Question for the original authors
When was Rolle the editor of the NIST journal? He isn't as of 2006. Knowing the dates would save me a trip to the library. Thanks. Thatcher131 05:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Citation in standards
One of the Google hits appears to be a citation of one of his papers in an IEEE standard, but the link is a members website. I was just curious if citations such as this, rather than citations in another journal article, show up when the people do these citations checks?
Here is what Google had. Gene Nygaard 06:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
[PDF] IEEE Std N42.25-1997 American National Standard Calibration and ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat [B1] Colle, R., “Use of the Harmonic Mean: On Averaging Count14 Rate Data for Variable-Time, Fixed-. Count Intervals,” Radioactivity & Radiochemistry, vol. ... ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel4/4908/13525/00621601.pdf?arnumber=621601 - Similar pages
- I can't tell for sure but I don't think so. The 1996 article in Radioactivity & Radiochemistry has 9 citations in the ISI Web of Science but for some reason it doesn't allow me to see them, so I don't know for sure; however I think web of science only cross refs journal articles.Thatcher131 16:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
