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[edit] Blood-traitor

You evil... Draco Malfoy 18:38, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Is it better to change all the Rupert's picture to the drawings else from the book?

There are serval reasons:

  • 1. Rupert is not equal to Ron. readers might mix up easily.
  • 2. The look of Rupert as Ron have a gap difference between Year1/2 and Year3/4.
  • 3. Ronald Weasley is a character from a Friction book. No reason to post a real Image to show us "it is Ronald Weasley."

Please agree with me and post your comments on this . ^^


--Mmlcs36 14:04, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

I disagree, I think we can have pictures from both the movies and the books in the article, unless you are going to seperate the article into a film version and a book version, which I don't think will be a good idea.--Azathar 19:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
These are the same reasons for not using Hermione's pictures! At least tweak the sentences a little more.

You cannot indiscriminantly scan and post copyrighted images from a published book and post them on the Wikipedia. The creator of the illustrations in the books, Mary GrandPré, owns the copyright, and receives royalties from the sale of those books, as well as any further Harry Potter related artwork created be her based on the books. Posting of such artwork (which could lead to unauthorized distribution and sale of copies of the images, without proper royalty payments) could constitute a copyright violation, and subject the Wikipedia to lawsuits. However, posting of low resolution Public Relations photos of actors, and in some cases film screen shots as released by the Studio (Warner Brothers), may be allowed in limited qualtities as "Fair Use" images (see also: Wikipedia:Fair use).

If it could be arranged (with proper permissions from GrandPré and the Studio), the ideal solution would be for each of the Harry Potter "character" articles in the Wikipedia to be illustrated with one of Mary GrandPré's images, with one posed film PR poster image, and no more than one easily recognized screen shot from a film, featuring the actor doing something "important", and preferably one that has been released for distribution by the Studio. Screen shots taken off of someone's VHS or DVD copy, or from a broadcast, are usually pretty flaky and unclear. --T-dot 15:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes?

Could there be a "Memorable quotes" section? Ron's got a lot of those. :) I wonder if that'd be okay.

--14 October 2005

I think that would be best suited for Wikiquote. Why not create a Ron Weasley article over there & stick {{wikiquote}} at the end of the article here? --WhyBeNormal 05:47, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Timid friend"? "Bombshell"?

The comments on the alleged further divergence between the novels and the films in terms of the characterization of Ron and Hermione are well taken, but the section on the GoF posters sounds like speculation and personal opinion. What about Ron's poster denotes timidity? The interpretation of Hermione's poster as a "bombshell" sounds biased, as well. I googled "ron+timid+hermione+bombshell", thinking perhaps those were indeed the terms being used by the film's marketing campaign, but the most prominent link I found was the article's own. I'm removing the paragraph, unless someone can back up the "timid" label with a source.--RicardoC 13:42, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Any reason for "cleanup"?

The article doesn't look bad to me... does anyone feel that it needs a lot of cleanup? If not someone should remove that tag - I already removed reqimage and attention as blatantly not true. (ESkog)(Talk) 17:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

It's not bad, but it seems to be organized explicitly by book, in a way that Harry's and Hermione's articles aren't. It would be nice to have the article more like a biography, stating events year by year. Currently, it doesn't always even emphasize Ron's contributions. I'm rewriting the beginning to reflect this approach more. -- MatthewDBA 16:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Canon evidence?"

Is there canonical evidence for the color of Ron's eyes? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.239.8.105 (talk • contribs).

Yes, if you count JKR's statements outside of the books as canon, as I do. From her interview with TLC and MuggleNet this past summer:
MA: What color are Ron's eyes?
JKR: Ron's eyes are blue. Have I never said that, ever? [JKR covers her eyes.] --Fbv65edel 14:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First image

That first image of Ron is really hideous, I'm in favor of removing it and moving one of the other images up to its place. Thoughts anyone? --Hetar 08:25, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Just FYI I have changed the image now. --Hetar 07:41, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Ron in the films"

This section seems quite POV to me. No references are given for anything in the section. The books show him to have a basically lower intellect than Hermione, a larger reluctance to go adventuring than Harry, and a greater insecurity about his own station in life than both of them. And, of course, as the section currently points out, he is the likely part of the trio to provide comic relief. I think this comes across in the films in the same way. To me, the difference between the two is that all these character traits don't happen in exactly the same places, or in the same way, as the books – not that the films have him notably mis- or differently-characterized. CzechOut 19:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Here's an example, demonstrating the many flaws of the section: In the third film, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Ron's role is further decreased. In the original novel, Ron's role was fairly small, but the film-makers created several gags involving Ron, who is often portrayed as puerile and dimwitted, in contrast to Harry and Hermione, who are presented as sharper and more adventurous. First, the passage is internally contradictory; Ron's role can't be both "further decreased" and have several film-only gags added. The net result is that Ron has an expanded presence in the film over the book. It's entirely the author's opinion that Ron is "puerile and dimwitted" in the film; another explanation is that he's sometimes the out-of-time Hermione's first contact. Thus he's naturally "confused" in several scenes, as even Harry is shown to be. Also, is Ron really anything other than less "sharp" than Hermione and Harry in the books? Didn't he do comparatively less well on standardized tests, according to the books? Some kind of actual citation needs to be given here for that. This whole section just reads like an essay, more than it does like an encyclopedia entry.
One of the biggest clues in this direction is the overuse of the word seems. Any time that verb appears in a sentence, one has to ask the question "Seems to whom?" And, with these paragraphs at least, the answer is invariably, "the author(s) of this section".
It would, I think, be helpful to the section were it organized entirely differently. Insted of trying to prove that Ron is different in films than he is in the books – really the first step on the way to original research – it should probably be written as an exploration of the controversy over his treatment in the films. Take that perspective, and the section can then easily be made more appropriate, by citing various sources that are both happy and unhappy with the way the character comes across. – CzechOut 22:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

There is not a single source for this section. As such, I have removed it. --Hetar 02:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ron in the books

Er...must we include "Harry Potter and the" in all the book titles? Everyone reading this page knows that's how the titles start. Plus, it takes up space and looks crowded. VolatileChemical 00:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

My vote? Yes. They are the proper titles and if they become abbreviated the article is no longer a proper article. Besides, not everyone reading this will have read all the books or know right away which book is which. Not everyone has read Harry Potter. Shocking I know, but true. ;) MagnoliaSouth 04:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
What I find especially annoying is all the super-fanatics posting shorthand versions of the titles: PS (or SS), CoS, PoA, GoF, OoTP, HBP - just maddening. --T-dot 16:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ron's destiny?

Someone I know has suggested that Ron might die in the last book. This might happen...after all, he dosen't get as much attention as Harry does, and this jealousy has still not dissapated. Perhaps this will lead to his undoing, and it fits with the fact that in action epics, the main character will be betrayed by someone he trusts.

[edit] POV

"Ron, who is one of seven kids and not particularly gifted, receives little attention..."

Who says he's not particularly gifted? POV. 70.53.2.222 16:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Content Removal

"This gesture, along with Harry’s approaching 17th birthday (the age of adulthood in the wizarding world), and the implied closure of Hogwarts, symbolizes the loss of any remaining childhood innocence within them. Together, they are ready to face Voldemort."

This sentence was at the end of the HBP section. I felt it made the plot summary read more like a review, and it added no factual information. Unless there is opposition, I propse that it remain deleted. See: WP:NOT#SOAP and WP:NOT#OR
John Reaves 17:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

  • Ron's Patronus is a Jack Russell Terrier; J. K. Rowling claims this is a sentimental choice because she also owns a Jack Russell. [1]
  • Ron is arachnophobic, stemming from one of his childhood incidents in which Fred turned his teddy bear into a giant spider. Incidentally, Rupert Grint, who portrays Ron in the films is also arachnophobic.[citation needed]
  • In Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Professor Slughorn mistakenly calls Ron "Rupert". As his film portrayer is named Rupert Grint, this could be seen as an inside joke on the part of the author.
  • In the early stages of making the Harry Potter books, Ron's surname was the only one among the trio which Rowling never decided to change. She has stated that Ron has been "Weasley from start to finish".
  • Ron's favourite Quidditch team is the Chudley Cannons, although they have not won the cup since 1892. This explains why his room is painted bright orange, because it is the colour of his hair.
  • At the age of five, Ron was nearly tricked into making an Unbreakable Vow by Fred and George.
  • Ron has a knack for insulting ghosts, such as Nearly-Headless Nick and Moaning Myrtle, which he does regularly, much to the chargrin of Hermione.
  • Ron writes in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them that he used to have a pet Puffskein until Fred decided to use it for bludger practice.



  • Incorporate this into the article.

John Reaves 23:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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