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• Archive 1 -- 9 Mar 2005 thru 31 Jul 2005
• Archive 2 -- 1 Aug 2005 thru 22 Dec 2005
• Archive 3 -- 23 Dec 2005 thru 15 Mar 2006
• Archive 4 -- 16 Mar 2006 thru 01 Jun 2006
• Archive 5 -- 02 Jun 2006 thru 06 Oct 2006
• Special Archive - RfA related discussions

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Fate Is the Hunter

You recently changed a link on the Rod Taylor (actor) page (from Fate Is the Hunter to Fate is the Hunter), stating that the change represented the "correct" title. Could you tell me your source? Thanks! Alan smithee 04:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, it comes from 2 things: 1) the version with "Is" capitalized is a redirect to the version with "is" in lower case in wikipedia. and 2) words like "is" in titles are not usually capitalized. However, upon further research, I found that imdb.com lists the film with "Is", as do some other sources (from google), but not all. So I would say that "Is" is (I sound like Bill Clinton) probably correct, even though it conflicts with my understanding of standard English syntax. --rogerd 06:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I added a move request so the "Is" version would be primary and "is" would be a redirect. As for English usage, most style guides capitalize "Is" – it's not the length of the word, but the part of speech (etc.) For example, the Chicago Manual of Style (7.127 (Titles of Works – Capitalization)) says that every word in a title has its first letter capitalized except for articles, coordinating conjunctions, prepositions, and the 'to' in infinitives, except for the first and last words of titles and subtitles (which always begin with a capital letter). Alan smithee 00:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Nighclub music

Hello, I need the support of a WP administrator becouse a couple of guys are harrassing me. I'm trying to fix the inconsistency and lack of logic of many articles in the "music genre" cathegory. A user, despite the fact that I'm wworking on 2 articles at the same time having put the {{inuse}} template, Housemusic and Club music is reverting my edit endlessly.Brian W 02:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your suggestion.Brian W 15:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

User:132.241.246.111 (Grazon)

132.241.246.111 (suspected to be a sockpuppet of Grazon) has been repeatedly inserting uncited, unsourced, and often provably wrong, accusations about various persons on List of virgins. He doesn't use the discussion page, and his only edit summaries are non-sequiturs (such as "It would") or pointless rationalizations for his reverts ("Hoover&Mehlman are ultra religious&never married"). He also made a personal attack on 64.230.36.236: "she's a virgin just like you". Since you've dealt with him before, perhaps you can do something? He's making these edits under both "Grazon" and "132.241.246.111". wikipediatrix 00:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Favorite Songs

My survey has changed. I am now continuing my mission for the best songs, but now I am accepting all genres. I'm giving you a chance to revote for your top ten favorite songs of any genres (not just classic rock which is still the best). I've made a executive decision to keep the existing survey results and just add on to that with the new entries. My feeling for doing this is because classic rock is the most influential genre in music currently so it should be expressed more in the survey. Thank you for contributing in the past, and hopefully in the future. ROCK ON. RENTASTRAWBERRY ^{FOR LET?} röck 03:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The Godchauxes

Thanks for the moves. youngamerican (talk) 03:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

AFD

Help save Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of relationships with age disparity

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:H19 Showing Engine.jpg

Hi Rogerd, im just working on a german articel about the Wright R-1300. I suggest that the engine in the H-19 should be a R-1300. You wrote R-1340 instead. Is this truth? Did i mess up something? -- Stahlkocher 16:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

You are correct. According to USAF Museum page about this aircraft it is an Wright R-1300-3 of 700 hp. Thanks for pointing out my error. --rogerd 16:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

By the way, there does not seem to be an article in the english wikipedia about the R-1300. Could you translate it to english when you are done? Thanks. --rogerd 16:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I wrote the articel, please have a look. I will upload the german one tomorrow, because a friend is validating it. If he founds an error i will correct this articel too. Thanks for you assictance. If you have ane questions concerning german aviation, do not hessitate to ask at de:Portal:Luftfahrt. Broken English spoken perfectly ;-) -- Stahlkocher 17:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. I don't speak German, but I think you are saying that the 1300 is a 2600 with only one row of cylinders. Sometimes in English it is written as a "bank" of cylinders. I assume your friend is going to finish translating it into English. I can convert to United States customary units, and since the article is about a U.S. made product, I will list the the U.S. units first. --rogerd 20:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Gordon Cooper

I reverted your edit to Gordon Cooper because you deleted more than half of the content of the page when you made your change using popups. I'm 99% sure it's a completely unintentional mistake, so this is just a reminder to check the preview first before hitting 'save.' Thanks - BaseballBaby 03:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I was doing a lot of disambiguation with popups, I hope there isn't a bug that messed up other pages I was working on. I tried it again (did the exact same thing) and it worked fine this time. Go figure. --rogerd 03:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

CFD renomination

For info: a cat you previously voted to delete has been recreated. Please see:

• Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_26#Category:White_people

--Mais oui! 17:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Today's Star shines upon...

...my dear Roger,
so much has happened since this, hasn't it? Yet it seems like yesterday when I was first blessed with your wonderful friendship, and your gentlemanly way of helping and guiding me in my first stumbling steps, like a loving older brother...
So here is my humble token to a person who can make even the darkest day shine brightly,
your friend forever,
Phaedriel

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football . . . or basketball

The reason I tagged the article with the College football tag, is because it was in Category: College football. Bornagain4 23:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 3, July 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 003 – July 2006
Beatles News Billy Preston, often considered the Fifth Beatle, died on 6 June at age 59. The American soul musician was a long term friend of The Beatles and was the only person to receive joint credit on a Beatles single ("Get Back"). Preston was an Apple Records recording artist and he performed at George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh and at the Concert for George, both energetic and memorable performances. He also played regularly with The Rolling Stones and a number of other artists. Apple Corps has combined forces with Cirque du Soleil to create a show called "LOVE", featuring music by The Beatles, to be produced at the Mirage theatre in Las Vegas. The deal is reportedly worth US$30 million. George Harrison had originally been involved, as well as George Martin and Giles Martin. Preview performances began June 2, with the gala opening occurring on June 30. [1] Project News New article classification system, for our use and for Wikipedia 1.0. Very important and we need editor involvement. How can you help? Rate articles! It's easy: Visit Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Article Classification and read about how to grade. Visit Category:Unassessed Beatles articles and select an article to review. After deciding what grade it should have, modify the invocation of {{WPBeatles}} on the talk page to add parms. The template itself gives you the parameters to use. For example, change {{WPBeatles}} to {{WPBeatles|B|Low}} if you think it's a low-importance, B-class article. Save your changes and make sure the talk page is now showing the ratings. Click on the link in the template to edit the /comments subpage and explain why you rated the article the way you did. Don't forget to sign with ~~~~. Save that too. Questions? Ask Kingboyk or Lar for help. Want to stay up on new project developments? Watchlist all of the WikiProject pages plus The Beatles and each of the 4 members, to get a feel for what's happening. Also monitor and regularly review Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Beatles articles by quality log. If an article is listed on there as "added", go check the article's history. If it's new since the Project began add it to the Project Log as a new article and up the counter by one :) The charity album No One's Gonna Change Our World has been adopted by simonthebold. Ten new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 June. Member News New members to the project since the last issue include DslSWF, Goldom, Afghan Historian, Scolaire, bl4d3, and Vint. LessHeard vanU and Lar have been awarded Barnstars for unrelated activities.	Issue of the Month Preparing articles for inclusion in Wikipedia 1.0. From the Editors It was a bit of a struggle to get this month's newsletter done, as we did it without a lead editor. Hopefully, next month you'll jump in and be our lead editor. Big news is that WP:1.0 is coming along nicely and our article classification system has changed to conform to it. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 004 – August 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Contributors to this Issue GPHemsley (Editor) LessHeard vanU (Editor) kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Robert Freeman. Articles for the main albums by Julian Lennon, plus Category:Julian Lennon and Category:Julian Lennon albums Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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Adolph Rupp

I haven't seen the movie either, and admit that passage gave me some pause (I almost wrote "his life"), so figured "career" was a compromise, not intending it to be necessarily literal, and figured someone could come along and tweak it (which, in a sense, you did). That's why WP is collaborative, I guess. Thanks for pointing that out; I've since fixed it.

And btw, despite your request on your page for visitors to sign their posts, you neglected to do so on my mine (D'Oh!) :-) Nightscream 05:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The unfortunate truncation

Can I settle with restraining myself from large articles? —this is messedr͏̈ocker (talk) 05:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Charles Durning

Good work finding sources for the page; your contributions have turned it into a much better article.Michael Dorosh 02:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Editing

Hey there. I saw this yesterday;

"Aunt Bee falls for the sales pitch of a fast-talking medicine man (who is really a con) and his "Indian Elixir", which is really 85% alcohol! Aunt Bee has the women of the church's ladies' group to come over and indulge in the "elixir", which produces hilarious results!"

Granted, I know nothing about the show, but it seemed to me that there was something wrong with it, plus I haven't seen exclamation marks used widely in Wikipedia. Thanks for notifying me, I think I just screwed up eh? ;P Kedi the tramp 07:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Thanks

Re: your message - No problem! Sorry you've gotten hit by vandals. -Tapir Terrific 04:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Air transports of Heads of State (UK split)

Hi. Thanks for your comments, I just wanted to give you my perspective. I don't think all the information would fit well at No. 32 Squdron RAF for a couple of reasons.

• It's primary function is support of the military, with VIP roles secondary.
• The VIP role is very much a footnote of the squadron's history. It fought in the Battle of Britain, North Africa, Italy and Greece during World War II. It got its VIP role in February 1969 and merged with the Queen's Flight in 1995.
• The air transport of the Royal family and executive of the UK is undertaken by the squadron but also by chartered planes (most often BA 777s) and even commerical flights. Regards Mark83 10:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

hello

Hi,

This person 68.127.150.215 keeps on writing personal comments on in the Muzaffarabad article, as well as in Lashkar-e-Toiba. I deleted yesterday comments he wrote, but he wrote them again today, so I deleted it again. He wrote other stuff as well on the latter article, but other people have been deleting it. Since I am not an admin. and you are, could you just warn him about vandalism, and what it is?

Thanks,

Svetlana Miljkovic 01:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

"Horribly obnoxious"...

Sweet Roger, thank you so much for your beautiful words - as usual, you're always there to support me... but what else can I expect from my older wiki-brother? ;) Seriously, hun, I wasn't sad, I merely was upset at the comment this person expressed on IRC. Unfortunately, it wasn't the first time I was criticized for my choice of words at the list of Missing Friends I have at my userpage, so that's why I'm not sure to keep it (few people realize they are adapted from a quote by Pope Benedict XVI regarding friendship). I know I am a tad too emotional by many people's standards, and that it's impossible to please everybody, so I'll just let the matter rest for a while and think what to do. Btw, I'm about to go on a very short vacation, so in case I don't see you before I go, have a great weekend, and I hope you're enjoying the summer! :) Take good care, my dear Roger, and my usual big hugs to you. Kisses, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 01:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your support!

Same here!

		Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA!
		To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 03:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for putting your trust in me! ~Kylu (u|t) 03:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Kittie May Ellis

Thank you for your vote in support of Keeping this article. If you have a moment, perhaps you could vote again on the review here. Thanks~ Wjhonson 21:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 4, August 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 004 – August 2006
Issue of the Month Despite it being the lead news article of last month, there is still help required in the assessing of articles and the migrating of comments. Lar is willing to provide assistance to those unsure how to do this. Beatles News The Beatles in the news. Suggestions: [2] [3] Project News The Beatles article, the "Flagship" of the Project, is currently under review with regard to its Featured Article status. It is hoped that the review will identify those areas that need some(/lots of) remedial work, and that the Project participants and those editors who are involved in the the FA admin pages to can work together to "save" the status of the article. At the moment there is some discussion as to why it has been listed, and what may be needed to help it retain its FA status. It may well be that some work is going to be required in formulating a plan of action, and then some more in achieving those aims. The FA status is obviously quite important to the Project, and it would be appreciated if participants are able to provide assistance in keeping the article up to standard. The editors would be grateful if those persons receiving this Newsletter could spare some of their time, energy and brainpower in keeping this jewel in our crown in its proper place. Please go to Wikipedia:Featured article review/The Beatles and get involved! Thank you. Notable updates The compilation album The Beatles 1962-1966 has been adopted by PhattyFatt. Four new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 July: All You Need is Ears, the George Martin memoir (Stevage) Radha Krsna Temple, the ISKCON headquarters and album (Simon123, Kingboyk) A Cellar Full of Noise, the Brian Epstein autobiography (El Slameron) Wings Over Europe Tour, the Wings concert tour in Europe (Danthemankhan) Two Beatles related articles, The Beatles trivia [deletion debate] and George Smith (John Lennon) [deletion debate], were nominated for deletion. Both were kept on the basis that no consensus was reached. Member News New members to the project since the last issue include Doctorfreedom, Red Alien, dure, PhattyFatt and Caesar.	From the Editors As mentioned in the Project News section, The Beatles article has just been listed for a review of its Featured Article status. Working on this is quite important. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 005 – September 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Contributors to this Issue LessHeard vanU (Lead Editor) GPHemsley (Editor) kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Apple Records (if you are an Apple Records collector/expert please see Talk:Apple Records and help expand/clean up this article). Also, new Apple related article in need of expert assistance: Radha Krsna Temple. Old requests: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Robert Freeman. Articles for the main albums by Julian Lennon, plus Category:Julian Lennon and Category:Julian Lennon albums Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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Strategic Air Command Aircraft

It appears that now usingWikipedia files causes a problem. Not the same problem hat the copyright ssituatiion in SAC Aircraft and SAC missiles.

I wanted to ues the Wikipedia files for my references so when they eliminated by origional file because of the copyright infringement I would still have a cross refeencwe to SAC Aircraft R. E. Mixer 19:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I would like to know what other command used the B-1, B-17, B-29, B-47, B-50, B-52, B-58, KC-97 for my own informa6ion. I would like you to have that portion returned to the former status, Thanks fAugust3R. E. Mixer 19:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea what you were trying to do with those articles, but what you were didn't add to the quality of the articles. Adding SAC to a section called "Internal links" serves no purpose. --rogerd 21:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I was atempting to find a way back to the SAC article when someone went from the SAC article to an aircraft article.R. E. Mixer 17:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

IACC

Dear Rogerd, I concur with your proposal to add IACC as a separate article. Sorry about the delay, have not been on Wikipedia for several weeks.

August 6, 2006--AmerCupFan-- America's Cup History Fan 15:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

P Dye

Pete Dye need an article. Good job fpo 22:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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RE: Thanks

Dear rogerd:

Please accept my thanks for your labors cleaning up my failed attemtp to create two references during a revision to the entry for 'Jay Mariotti'. (Though I believe you were using the name 'Geffb' at the time.)

David Peterson 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC) (Chicago)

That wasn't me. I have never used any other id besides this one to edit on wikipedia. The only connection I have to User:Geffb is that I welcomed him back in January when he first edited under this name. What you are implying is called sock puppetry, and it is frowned upon here, and I certainly don't appreciate being accused of it. You are a fairly new user here, so I will consider this accusation to be an innocent mistake on your part.

RE: Quick Note for the Record

Dear rogerd:

No allegation of "sockpuppeting" was made toward you. I was trying to thank the invidual who corrected my errors (i.e., I couldn't figure out how to work the References command) for a revision I had introduced to an previous entry. So I checked the user-name of the person who made the correction, in the hope of thanking him. But somehow wound up on your user-talk page. Probably mistaking a comment by you for the other person.

Sockpuppeting is a problem, no doubt about it. But has nothing to do with my attempt to thank the person who corrected my error.

David Peterson 22:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC) (Chicago)

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Mutiple KY Coach Templates

Hi. You created {{UKyFbCoach}} and User:Kgwo1972 created {{UKWildcatsCoach}}. You two should talk and try and sort out how to merge the information on the two templates since they disagree slightly. The naming preference is the latter. Once the info has been merged, please delete the other template. Thanks. MECU≈talk 13:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 5, September 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 005 – September 2006
Beatles News The Beatles are suing Capitol Records and EMI over royalties and the rights to the band's master recordings. (Billboard) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band tops a British poll as the best number-one album of all time, with Revolver, Abbey Road, and The Beatles (album) also in the top 10. (BBC) Project News Unfortunately, the Featured Article badge on The Beatles was revoked. The article was immediately nominated for Good Article status, which it received later that same day. Project member Kingboyk said of the nomination, "I'm quite happy about it really, as I feel that GA is about where we're at and gives some incentive to work on the article." Eleanor Rigby (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) failed in its good article nomination, but only on two minor points (see its talk page). If you want a Blue Peter badge, why not fix those issues and resubmit it? We have a new category for Beatles articles needing attention. If you're looking for something to work on, the articles in this category and the subcategories need some TLC. To put an article in this category, tag its talk page with {{WPBeatles|attention=yes}}. Kingboyk has given {{WPBeatles}} another major overhaul, and has assessed all of the Beatles articles. He would be grateful if other editors would leave comments on the state of articles, needed improvements and so on, by clicking the Comments link in the template. Also, feel free to revise the gradings—the assessments were done quickly, and article quality can change. No articles have been adopted this past month. Adopt one now! Two new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 August: Wings Over the World tour, the Wings concert tour around the world (Danthemankhan) You'll Be Mine, an obscure early Lennon/McCartney song (The4sword) Member News New members to the project since the last issue include luckymustard, Liverpool Scouse, and The4sword. Kingboyk has been running his homegrown AWB semi-bot to help the folks out at the biography WikiProject. Liverpool Scouse has offered to take any desired pictures of the Liverpool area, upon request.	Issue of the Month The featured article status of The Beatles was revoked. From the Editors A month of slow progress and some amazing efforts. Still need help getting comments shifted. Don't forget to log your accomplishments! If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 006 – October 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Contributors to this Issue GPHemsley (Lead Editor) kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Apple Records (if you are an Apple Records collector/expert please see Talk:Apple Records and help expand/clean up this article). Also, new Apple related article in need of expert assistance: Radha Krsna Temple. Old requests: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Robert Freeman. Lennon/McCartney songs: I'll Be on My Way, I'll Keep You Satisfied (produced by George Martin, From A Window. George Martin produced Billy J. Kramer song: Magic Carpet (song). Songs covered by The Beatles: Hippy Hippy Shake. McCartney/Frog Chorus: We All Stand Together. Articles for the main albums by Julian Lennon, plus Category:Julian Lennon and Category:Julian Lennon albums Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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September Esperanza Newsletter

Is the Indy 500 the largest one day sporting event?

This may just be a misunderstanding on my part, but surely the 1.1 to 1.6 billion estimated television audience for the 2002 World Cup Final (soccer) dwarfs the Indy 500? Maybe you don't count that as a one day event? Where do you get your source concerning this? I have found others which don't seem to include it at all as one of the biggest sporting events;

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34780

This article, based on worldwide TV figures in 2005, cites the Super Bowl (a one day event) as the biggest (93 million) followed by the Champions League Final (73 million) and then by the Canadian Grand Prix (53 million).

The 2004 television figures (without a World Cup Final) are as follows;

1. Football: Euro 2004 final Portugal v Greece 153 million 2. Olympic Games: opening ceremony 127 million 3. Olympic Games: closing ceremony 96 million 4. American football: Super Bowl 95 million 5. Olympic Games: men's 100m metres 87 million 6. Olympic Games: men's 200m freestyle swimming 66 million 7. Formula one: Monaco grand prix 59 million 8. Football: Champions League final Porto v Monaco 56 million 9. Basketball: NBA finals 25 million 10.= Tennis: Wimbledon women's singles final 21 million 10.= Tennis: Wimbledon men's singles final 21 million 12. Cycling: Tour de France final stage 16 million 13.= Football: FA Cup final Millwall v Man Utd 9 million 13.= Horseracing: Grand National 9 million 15. Rowing: University Boat Race 5 million

There is no mention of the Indy 500.

In fact, although no ball was kicked, 350 million watched the draw for the World Cup!

http://www.kirkdorffer.com/ontheroadto2008/2005/12/biggest-sporting-event-in-world.shtml

Although I don't doubt the interest the Indy 500 generates (otherwise I wouldn't have read the article!) I have to admit to doubt concerning your figures. If the SuperBowl generates 93 million viewers (98% of whom are from North America) how could the Indy 500 - which arguably (I admit I have no proof of this) generates less worldwide interest - draw in 320 million? If we were to apply the same percentage of the makeup of the worldwide TV audience as the SuperBowl, that would mean that EVERYBODY in the USA (pop. 290 million) and Canada (pop. 30 million) watches the Indy 500! One month old babies included!

On the other hand you can show me proof of what you say, I'll go to bed this evening quite happy in having learned something I didn't know. Your sincerely,

Andrew Duff193.251.12.16 14:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You can contact me here

I'm the one that wrote the subject above, please don't hesitate to contact me! (Oh and delete this once you get my contact details if you can)

Andrew DuffAndrewduff 15:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Roger

Hey Roger, thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It finished with an amazing final tally of 160/4/1. I really appreciate your comments and support. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 10:55, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Rvv on Conner Prairie

My mistake, Roger. I reverted after chasing around an anonymous user who was vandalizing pages, including Conner Prairie. I should have looked more closely at the subsequent revision that erased the vandalism. Johnbrownsbody 20:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

KC-135s

I don't know what the hell the link I listed as the source links to, but its really from here or here. I've fixed the source on Commons. Nominate away for featured picture. Desertsky85451 20:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 6, October 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 006 – October 2006
Beatles News The Royal Mail has recently announced that commemorative stamps featuring various album covers from The Beatles will be released in January 2007. The covers to be commemorated are With the Beatles, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, Abbey Road, and Let It Be. The site of the former Casbah Club, operated by Mona Best (mother of Pete) in the basement of her house, and where the nascent Beatles played and rehearsed, has been accorded Grade II Listed status following a recommendation by British Heritage. Project News Some Project articles are having their Featured Article status reviewed, and the comments are not encouraging. The articles are A Day in the Life and A Hard Day's Night (song). (She Loves You has already had its FA status revoked.) Please participate in the discussion and help improve the articles! Beatlesque has been overhauled by andreasegde. Brian Epstein has been adopted by Liverpool Scouse. Five new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 September: Valotte, a Julian Lennon studio album from 1984 (NaLaochra) The Secret Value of Daydreaming, a Julian Lennon studio album from 1986 (NaLaochra) Mr Jordan, a Julian Lennon studio album from 1989 (NaLaochra) Help Yourself, a Julian Lennon studio album from 1991 (NaLaochra) Photograph Smile, a Julian Lennon studio album from 1998 (NaLaochra) In other Project news, the articles The Beatles trivia and John Lennon were nominated for deletion, presumably as vandalism, but the deletions were quickly vetoed. Member News New members to the project since the last issue include I Am The Walrus and NaLaochra. As usual, the self-effacing individuals who contribute to the Project are far too modest to mention any Barnstars or other awards they may have received. Obviously they feel their editing/contributing is reward enough.	Issue of the Month The lead article of the Project recently lost its FA status, and now some of the other articles are being reviewed. Citations and references within articles are again the major concern. Contributors who have literature (books, magazines, links, etc.) are especially needed to provide the necessary citations. It is not enough for editors to know the facts; they need to be backed up by other sources. All help, both within the articles and the discussion, would be appreciated. From the Editors If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 007 – November 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Come back, Kingboyk! The children miss you! Contributors to this Issue LessHeard vanU (Lead Editor) GPHemsley (Editor) kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Apple Records (if you are an Apple Records collector/expert please see Talk:Apple Records and help expand/clean up this article). Also, new Apple related article in need of expert assistance: Radha Krsna Temple. Old requests: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Robert Freeman. Lennon/McCartney songs: I'll Be on My Way, I'll Keep You Satisfied (produced by George Martin, From A Window. George Martin produced Billy J. Kramer song: Magic Carpet (song). Songs covered by The Beatles: Hippy Hippy Shake. McCartney/Frog Chorus: We All Stand Together. The Big Three. Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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