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Contents 1 Title 2 Vandalism 3 The West Enclosure Loyal 4 Vandalism to "Animal testing" 5 thanks 6 Robina Qureshi 7 Request for Comment 8 Wikisource 9 Help me 10 Apologies 11 The Geo Elite User Page 12 re: Nigga vandalism 13 ALF page 14 Return Greetings ... 15 RfA 16 Center on Animal Lib. Affairs 17 Linking directly to external pages 18 Re Personal Attack 19 Nice! 20 Unblock 21 Problem with C.lettinga fixed 22 Adoption!

[edit] Title

Hi, I’ve got a little problem. The Samuel Jones (composer) for which there is currently an article is a different Samuel Jones from the one I’m writing about [1]! Both are composer however. How should I distinguish between them in the title?

I’m about to post my draft article at User:S.dedalus/drafts. If you have time to look it over that would be great. I’m a former student of Dr. Jones so I’m especially worried about objectivity on this one. Thanks! S.dedalus 23:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey. That is an interesting one. I'd propose moving the incumbant to Samuel Jones (jazz musician) and replacing the current article with yours. We can then put a link at the top of each, directing to the other. When you are ready to upload, I can help you or talk you through how to do that, as its important to make sure its done properly so that the history moves with it. Also, links will have to be changed etc. Its pretty easy when you know how, though. I had a quick look at your draft and it looks good. I'll have a more detailed review tonight and let you know my thoughts. Rockpocket 02:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hi, I hope you don’t mind me asking for a little more help when you have time. I need some help with user Danww he appears to be trying to find out how many times he can vandalize without being blocked. He was warned by NawlinWiki not create nonsense pages. He then created two more vandalisms on the John Coolidge Adams page. I then perhaps wrongly gave him the full {{subst:test4}} template because the vandalisms were blatant and intended to be offensive to homosexual people, and because he had created two more vandalisms after a warning. Now two days ago he vandalized the Michael Nyman page, then a few minutes later changed it back. Should I move to block him? Thanks! S.dedalus 05:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Most administrators would not block him or her at the moment for two reasons. Firstly, it is over two weeks since the initial two edits and was probably a bit premature for a high level warning. Secondly, blocking is not punitive, blocks are simply issued to prevent ongoing damage to the project. Since the editor appears to have stopped vandalising again, he doesn't fit the criteria for blocking at WP:AIV. However, its perhaps worth leaving another message for him/her noting that all their edits have been vandalism and any further such edits will result in administrator action. Having had three warnings, any further vandalism would justify a block in my opinion - and I would be willing to do so if you let me know about further such edits from this editor in future. Rockpocket 06:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Yes, I agree that my warning was an overkill. I left Danww a note as per your suggestion. S.dedalus 07:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The West Enclosure Loyal

Im highly insulted to see the barbaric deletion of this notable page. Please can you offer any explanation for why you took the time out to purposely delete this valid page? By my reasoning this is not vandalism or an invalid page as it shows good links with Glasgow Rangers F.C. Addmclean 14:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Responded here. Rockpocket 18:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to "Animal testing"

Thanks for your message (to 68.151.161.59). I apologize for what was an error on my part. When I loaded the page in question, the text under the image read "Enos the space chimp before insertion into the Hoes that got the big tittys in da back yard kick that shit all ova the hizzouse Mercury-Atlas 5 capsule in 1961." This being obvious vandalism, I attempted to revert it, but must have reverted to the wrong page. I did not make any other edits to the page, especially nothing "blatantly POV"

thanks for your concern

Fonkey 22:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Thanks for the explanation about the unrepenting vandal - he caused a lot of annoyance tonight - I hope the block is for a good long time.Tvoz 09:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

You are, no doubt, correct. If only these people would put the same energy into improving wikipedia.... Tvoz 09:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robina Qureshi

RP, it's always safer, if you have edited a page, to ask another admin to deal with problems there, unless it's unambiguous vandalism, which this isn't. I would deal with it for you, but I don't have time right now, although if I look in later or tomorrow and it's still an issue, I'll be happy to act. In the meantime, you might consider posting about it on WP:AN/I or WP:AN/3RR if he has violated 3RR. I would say his edit summary to you is also a violation of NPA/CIV. The best thing, in my view, is to advise him that he might be blocked for disruption (removing sourced material, lots of reverting, possible 3RR violation, insulting edit summary) without further warning if the behavior continues, but try posting on AN/I and see what others think. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment

Hello.

I'm trying to assist two of your members reach a consensus over who should and should not be in the article List of Lebanese people and also to the extent information about individuals should be expanded on in the list. As you guys are clearly among the most informed on the subject, I wonder if you would mind commenting. It would help if you could keep your comments on the topic of content, and not behaviour of the individuals, as personal conflict is already heavily influencing the dispute (as you can see from the statements). If we can resolve the content dispute, the locus of the conflict will be solved too without resorting to further administrative action. Thanks! Rockpocket 23:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I'll see what I can do. LestatdeLioncourt ^talk 13:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I do not know why you decided to block me after what I wrote to you and since you know the consequences leading to my outburst against lcnj. You have seen that I was planning on retiring and how I was pulled back in. I am not of bad faith nor am I a vandal. I decided to stop discussing the article so that we could avoid more conflict. I expressed my anger towards lcnj because I did not understand why he would keep on following me after I left the article to him. It would be easy for you to avoid what I am writing, as I do not use lcnj's persuasive approch with the words in capital letters. Unblocked, I will leave Wikipedia and will only contribute to the articles I created. I wish to leave with a clean record and without worries. I ask you to discuss it with Lcnj and other administrators. I am sorry if I caused any disturbance to Lcnj or to you, as much has been caused to me. I am done. I just want to leave quietly. Jaber

[edit] Wikisource

Hi Rockpocket, how can I get a parallel user page on Wikisource? Thanks! S.dedalus 23:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help me

I just wanted to archive the discussion on the talk page of the image Image:Riya promo.jpg,, for future reference, not to argue against the deletion. I supported its deletion. But, before I got around to copy and paste the discussion on my archive of talk pages, it went kaput. Sob sob cru cry. Now, can you tell me how I can get through to the discussion on its talk page? - Aditya Kabir 18:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC) - please, answer to my talk page, under the "help me" head where you responded earlier.

[edit] Apologies

Please accept my apologies for beginning to get slightly carried away there, thanks for keeping things in check. Is there anything objectionable about the user page as of yet, or was it a pre-emptive warning? The Geography Elite 19:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Geo Elite User Page

Thanks for the help , we now have a much more clear view on how to organise our user page and how to go about ourselves on here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Addmclean (talk • contribs) 23:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] re: Nigga vandalism

Thanks. I was only vaguely aware of it. Self Torture 06:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

>Hi. I wonder if you could explain the relevence of the link to William J. Jefferson in the >nigga article? I have reverted it for the moment per WP:BLP and WP:NPA, but if there is a >genuine link between the term and the congressman i'll happily reinstate. Thanks. Rockpocket >05:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

>Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Self_Torture"

[edit] ALF page

thanks for fixing that error; my mistake.--C.lettinga 09:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Not answering to my questions is very impolite rockpocket. [[user:jaber|Jaber] ]

[edit] Return Greetings ...

Hi there, Rock ... yes, as you will have seen I have been somewhat busy on the Wiki this autumn. I have been known to write Amazon reviews as well if you're surfing widely. --Sordel 22:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Hi there; I have waited until a decent interval has elapsed since my unsuccessful RfA. I just wanted to say that I agree with your comment regarding my conversation with User:DocEss. I was out of order. It will not occur again.--Anthony.bradbury 23:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I almost certainly will go for it again in the new year, after balancing my edit count, which some editors were unhappy with.--Anthony.bradbury 21:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Center on Animal Lib. Affairs

Hi, thanks for cleaning up the article. Just wondering, what are "weasel words," and what might have been those words in the article? thanks --C.lettinga 01:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Nice work on the article, by the way. "Weasel words" was a poor choice of term to use, actually, I should really have said "words to avoid". Major examples were:

• "...all of whom have been in jail or persecuted". In retrospect, perhaps you meant prosecuted, but we certainly can't say they were persecuted.

• "...rescuing or liberating animals". That is loaded language (in as much as the opposite opinion would be that they "stole" animals.) We try to use more neutral terms like "remove".

• "... leading academics, doctors, lawyers, researchers". Who says they are "leading" their field?

Still, as I said, nice work and don't worry about these sort of things, as there will always be people around in the animal rights related articles to copy-edit. The major thing is to get content added and you did a fine job of that. Rockpocket 01:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, understood. I'll try to avoid that sort of thing in the future...and sorry for all the grammar/spelling mistakes (like "persecute" instead of "prosecute"). The issue with specific citation from the Center's actual website (e.g. "academics, doctors, lawyers, reasearchers") that you noted on my talk page, is that there don't appear to be any sub-pages within their website. Very frustrating for direct linking. If you have any ideas on how to circumvent this problem, I'd appreciate it.--C.lettinga 05:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linking directly to external pages

Hi, hope I'm not bothering you with this question. I just wrote a new article for Animal Liberation Front Supporters Group and was wondering if there was a way to directly link a name with an external webpage. (If you go there, you'll see that I referenced every current prisoner to their external page, and it just looks bad.) I'm sure one can do it, but I'm just not sure how. If you could let me know, tha'd be great.--C.lettinga 09:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Personal Attack

Hi,

I wrote a good two thirds of the RFK article and am getting tired of kids who saw 'Bobby' coming along and putting in boundless quantities of nonsense. I don't deny I lost my temper with the vandal in question. How can the article be locked from new editors? 3 months ago it was fine, now it's happening every day.

Thanks,

Iamlondon 10:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

"Semi-protection can be requested here. I don't know whether the article will qualify - It depends on the frequency of the vandalism - but you could always list it and see what happens."

- Thanks for the info...I'll ask the other long-term editors and see how they feel.

Best,

Iamlondon 20:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nice!

A good answer to a tricky question. I was sure that there was NO good answer to such a question, but you nailed it. Ned Wilbury 23:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unblock

Thanks. I blocked per the username. .--Dakota 03:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with C.lettinga fixed

Thanks alot for fixing that. I wrote a bit more about it on my talk page.C.lettinga 03:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption!

Hi Rockpocket. Thanks so much for your invitation of adoption: I'd love to be an adoptee of yours. It's my eventual hope to be involved in mediation and anti-vandal work as well as article contribution eventually leading to recallable adminship. Clearly I have alot to learn, and I'd appreciate the guidance.--C.lettinga 03:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)