Talk:Rocky Balboa (film)

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Contents 1 Synopsis Correct? 2 This article should be moved 3 Watch this article for vandalism 4 Unwaranted inclusion of trailer quote 5 Talia Shire out? 6 Poster 7 Film Clip 8 Also... 9 Just wondering

[edit] Synopsis Correct?

I've not heard anymore about the "youth center" plot line since I heard MGM rejected that and it was a few years ago. Since the illustrated teaser script Sly put in his magazine, I've just heard that he had a restraunt and there was a computer match between him and Mason Dixon that inspires the real fight. I don't think the youth center plot device made it into this version of the script... unless someone's read the whole thing.

Agree, the youth center story was included in the first script but was later removed. The current script deals more with Rocky's desire to fight, and stay true to his nature. Synopsis has been updated to better reflect the current story.

[edit] This article should be moved

This article should be moved to Rocky Balboa since this is the official title of the film, not Rocky VI. In addition the Rocky films template needs to be adjusted accordingly. 23skidoo 14:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure that is the official title, I was aware that it was the working title while stallone is filming the scenes, but I could be wrong. Mark272 13:59, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

The image on this pages that listed as being a promotional image is no such thing, it's just a fan made poster done in photoshop, it's not the least bit official, that's why I deleted it, let's keep it that way.

The rumor about Burgess Meredith is clearly ficticious, and should be left out. Please do not put it there again.

Yes, I removed it once already only to see it reverted, the rumour is too outrageous and should not be included. Mark272 13:59, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Watch this article for vandalism

The article has been vandalized more that once. I ask other users to watch this page for further vandalism and help keep it clean. DethFromAbove 00:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm keeping a close eye on this page. Some of the "facts" debunked so far include:

The movie being called "Ivan Drago" and staring Dolph Lundgren.

Ivan Drago will making an appearance and Rocky will not standing over his bed saying, "If he dies, he dies" or "I must break you" and pull his plug for life support.

Gary Coleman will playing the role of Mason 'The Line' Dixon

Rocky does going to Afghanistan to train with Al Qaeda. However, it turns out he's working undercover as a CIA operative. His final fight is will be with Mohammed Al-Jafar in a cave outside of Tora Bora.

The Balboas did not convert to Hinduism, and Adrian will not return as Rocky's cat in the film.

Hey, I like humor as much as the next man. I'm glad you guys are taking an interest in this film. However, let's post the facts on this page and keep the humor on forums and the water cooler. I'll see you all President's Day, 2007!Rockules318 03:10, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

And ROCKY VI isn't the fifth sequel!!!! its the sixth!!!! there was a rocky 5 in 1990!!!

• Try taking a math class. 1 original film + 5 SEQUELS = Rock VI. 81.76.41.139 17:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ROCKY VI is indeed the fifth sequel! The first sequel was ROCKY II (and so on). --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 20:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unwaranted inclusion of trailer quote

I've removed the section entitled "Quote from the trailer Rocky Balboa (Rocky VI)." The section just seems completely unnecessary and doesn't contribute to the informative nature of the article (i.e. does not give plot details, release dates, etc.). I'm still not completely sure it should be 86'd, though. I'm tempted to cite this, but again, I'm not sure. I'd appreciate a little feedback from fellow users.--DethFromAbove 02:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, I see your point. I just thought somebody came along and saw the list of quotes and thought they were just a collection of random, unrelated phrases. I hope you don't take "a fence" to my "funny" answer. Love, Wavy G 02:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

The quote is very relevant to this article, because it illustrates the underlying concept of the movie, which is being stated in the synopsis. This movie is not about boxing, but about overcoming one's own fear and going after what one desires, and this is the reason why Stallone chose this monologue in the first teaser.

I think the fact that Stallone released plot details such as Adrian's death and Rocky being really old (for a boxer) - which are both already under Known Facts - is enough to illustrate the theme of despair and overcoming fear that's present in the movie. I'll refrain from removing the section until your response.--DethFromAbove 20:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Although it is true that the Known Facts state the theme of the movie, they do not emotionally illustrate Balboa's determination. The quote actually tells the theme in the fictional character's own voice. Thus, to not include the quote, but only the facts, is like reading a description of Beethoven's 9th, withouth listening to it. 71.247.225.110 23:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I've always found Wiki articles to be a bit detached from their subjects; informative, yet lacking that human touch. While the inclusion of the teaser quote certainly illustrates the theme of determination that has become so fundemental to the Rocky series, it delves into that gray area between biased and objective. The section devotes itself exclusively to the quote; there's no analysis of it, nor does it complement or bolster the synopsis in the article, which I think better illustrates the movie's theme. Consequently, the section comes off as a promotion for the movie, and a promotion for anything is a no-no. Aside from this, no other expected movie articles include the a teaser's entire text. Other movies have themes too, you know, so why don't they include teaser text?

Interestingly, I looked up Beethoven's 9th, and it includes a very thorough analysis of the symphony, as well as audio samples. Perhaps you could include a link to the trailer under External Links?--DethFromAbove 23:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talia Shire out?

The February 28th update here mentions Talia Shire is out. It gives the Access Hollywood link to cite its source, but it seems to have expired/moved. If anyone could find the page/video mentioning Shire's exclusion from the movie, I'd like to remove her from the cast list.--DethFromAbove 23:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

In 'Rocky Balboa' , Adrian is dead and it is confirmed at the NBC website in the Stallone interviews, as well as in the script which is in Sly magazine. But, at IMDB, Talia Shire's 'Adrian' is listed under cast but as archive footage. Meaning she won't actually reprise her role but will be in the movie. We should put 'archive footage' in parenthesis beside Tally's name.By the way, sorry about not posting changes Iv made to this artical here. I didn't even know what a talk page was. :D --RBalboa 21:52, 26 May 2006 (Central Standard time)

Err...IMDb isn't really reliable. I was checking the cast listings for 24 once and saw that Carlos Bernard was listed to appear in every episode of season 5, but his character dies midway, and doesn't reappear. If you could maybe find another source confirming that she will appear, even in archive footage (which is not really starring in it), I'd be very happy.--DethFromAbove 20:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'll go ahead and see where I can find that Adrian is confirmed for archive footage, if I don't see it, I'll take Tally off before the day is out. :)--RBalboa 17:51, 27 May 2006 (Central Standard time)

K, I found two other places where it states Talia Shire in Rocky Balboa: TotalRocky.com , and Slycenter.mfbiz.com If you want to we can take Talia's name off until we know for sure she's going to be in it. ☺ --RBalboa 19:05, 27 May 2006 (Central Standard time)

[edit] Poster

The fight poster that is up right now I put there. I should have came here first, but that poster isn't fan made. Its a real poster from the movie, no not the official movie poster that we're going to see outside the theater though. The reason I put it there is because I thought it looked cool and it is a real thing that was first seen at the filming in Las Vegas. In my opinion, I think we should keep it there until the official advertising poster is made. But its up to you guys, please post here before deleting it off the page. We could hold a little vote. Then we'd have a democracy going! Yay! :p RBalboa 22:17, 26 May 2006 (Central Standard time)

Agreed. This article is rather dull without it.--DethFromAbove 20:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Smart move, I didn't think about putting it in the sypnosis area.;)RBalboa 17:54, 27 May 2006 (Central Standard time)

[edit] Film Clip

The films blog actually has an exclusive clip of Balboa heading from the lockerroom to the entrance to the arena. Linkage?

I'v got it, I'll put it there now.---RBalboa 21:46 P.M., 30 May 2006 (Central Standard time)

Yo Deth, how come you took off the trailers, those were official straight from Sly's site. ---RBalboa

Because they were on your myspace.--DethFromAbove 02:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh ok, sorry I forgot about that, I changed it to my myspace because it was running smoother on there. My apologies. :D---RBalboa June 4

[edit] Also...

On Apollo's charachter sites, there are links to pics of Weathers dressed as Creed. Can someone put them up, please?

[edit] Just wondering

Won't this movie be pretty crappy considering it's been like 15 years since the last movie?--Killswitch Engage

I fail to see the logic in this.--DethFromAbove 22:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, first of all, technology has been enhanced in these 15 years. And it's been awhile sine Sylvester Stallone was any good.--Killswitch Engage

Here I was thinking you were looking at this movie objectively.--DethFromAbove 17:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Go back to DVDVR hosers.--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 02:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)