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[edit] Marciano

Isn't he based on Rocky Marciano? --daunrealist 03:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

    • As far as I can tell he's only named after Rocky Marciano, but I've included a link so people can judge for themselves. I've also broken the article into sections to make it easier to read. Scott197827 30 October 2005.

[edit] Fictional sequels

I thought that it is interesting that there are fictional sequels to this film that will never be made.

There may be others, but I can't remember them at the moment.

Lady Aleena 07:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Theme From Rocky XIII (Rye or the Kaiser) - from "Weird Al" Yankovic
  • Rocky 1003 - referenced in Adam Ant - USSA. Ant mentions that Rocky dies in this movie.

kuvopolis 23:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An Earlier Rocky Game?

About two years ago I was going through a "variety pack" of ancient ROMs, and came across a boxing game called Rocky. The character on the title screen was a spitting-pixelated image of Rocky, but other than that, it was a generic boxing game. (The in game character didn't look anything like Rocky.) For all I know, it was a bootleg of another Boxing game with the title screen changed. Could someone confirm it?--Agent Aquamarine 23:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Garrett Brown's Steadicam

  • Elsewhere in Wikipedia, the first use of Steadicam in a film is attributed to Bound for Glory.

[edit] Failed GA

[edit] 1

Not quite there yet for GA. The article is just a little too short for a movie with this kind of impact, especially on Stallone's career. Cameo appearances could be merged into the cast section, which would be more appropriately something other than a list. Awards and Reviews is only Awards. Trivia section should be scrapped or merged into above sections, although I see several things that are undeniably trivia, such as in the Awards and Reviews section "Not until Crash 29 years later would a Best Picture recipient receive only two other awards."

Also, the Plot section is immensely POV, and curiously not very detailed. Cut down the climactic fight sequence into only the turning points of the fight. Good luck. --Dark Kubrick 09:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2

I've decided not to pass this either, mainly because of citations. There's little to go on other than Sylvester Stallone's commentary on the DVD edition and some AFI recognition. I'd like to know more about this film than I can learn from a rental at Blockbuster Video: what do critics (both of the academic and newspaper variety) and industry professionals say about this film? Durova 14:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA nomination

I've been looking at this article and coming very close to passing it this time. What's the source for the "Production" section though? There's plenty of uncited assertions, but I get the impression that in fact the entire section up until the final paragraph comes from the one source, which is Stallone himself? (his DVD commentary). Perhaps the citation could be reformatted (passim, or just appear once at the top of the section with a footnote saying the section is based on this source). Most of this material is OK to be sourced direct from Stallone, I think, although there a few "facts" (such as Ken Norton pulling out) which might be better corroborated by independent sources. Remember, quotes from people involved are great for opinions and perspectives but not necessarily good for facts.
I think the Plot section is good now, as is Awards. Reviews is pretty good, just a little thin perhaps but you have Ebert, the main web sites, and a major newspaper, so that's all OK.
Very, very close... --kingboyk 20:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. What you wrote on my talk page is noted. Thanks.
There are other issues. Please work through Wikipedia:What_is_a_good_article? point by point and check your compliance with every single criteria. If I can see that you've attempted to comply with each point, even if you're perhaps lacking a little in one or two areas (such as the references as discussed on my talk page), I will pass it. Currently I can't. See for example 1(d): necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided. Professional boxing (important one, includes details on scoring/judges which is relevant to the plot), heavyweight, Oscars, knockout. Assume your reader knows nothing about boxing (which may well be true). --kingboyk 21:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I've gone through and checked it against every one of the criteria, while it is little thin on sources the only one I could see any failing of was 1d and I've checked the whole article and provided links to techinical jargon that can be linked to other article and explained what a bell ringer is, have I done it now?†he Bread 00:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes. I think the article is broadly compliant, and I believe it's a "good article" within the spirit of GA. It's not FAC standard yet (references, needs a good copyedit from an independent editor), but it's referenced, appropriately laid out, has relevant images, has links to technical terms, and is a pleasant read. That makes it a GA as far as I'm concerned. Congratulations. --kingboyk 13:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From South Philadelphia?

I know this is nitpicking, but does Rocky state he is "froM" or grew up In S. Phila? I ask because the neighborhood he lives in, was filmed in N Philadelphia, under/near the M-F El along Front (Norris Park) and then Kensington. I realize the Italian-American neighborhood is S. Phila, but that DOESN'T mean Rocky grew up there?! Hillsboro 20:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shooting Time

What about shooting this movie in 28 days? Removed until someone can prove it's a record. Sven Erixon 00:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Film Trivia??

1. First, I didn't know shooting a script out of order (or reverse) was a Technical Innovation as stated in the current article.

2. No mention that the "Italian Stallion" nickname of the fighter is the same as Stallone's softcore movie. Other Wiki movie articles, have interesting facts, why not this one?--Gohiking 19:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

That is because the chharacter in the soft core movie was not named rocky. It was re released after Rocky came out with a different title. The article already discusses this thoroughy.

For one your not meant to have trivia, the way they shot the scenes was innovative and i've been working on adding the Italian Stallion stuff for a while, but I need a source and somewhere to put it (Probably influence)

†he Bread 02:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Interest in Rocky

Due to the new film coming out, I assume there will be lots of people trying to make their own little contribution to this article. †he Bread (and everyone else too), instead of just reverting every edit (except vandalism), should we try to review whether the change is good or bad here? I don't want to make lots of work, and I definately want to protect the GA rating, but I don't think every change needs to be reverted either. Just wanted to get your input as I tend to monitor the Rocky page too. Gohiking 20:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah your probably right, alot of it is adding spoiler tags (which aren't needed in a section titled "Plot") and alot is P.O.V and adding the last names to Adrian and Paulie (which aren't mentioned in the film). It was alot of hard work getting this to GA standard, being such a famous film, i'll try to review the changes a bit more, but at the moment i've got other things to do.

†he Bread 23:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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