User talk:Rob77

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Also, welcome to WikiProject Cricket! DaGizzaChat (c) 04:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cricket articles

Hi Rob. Welcome to WP:Cricket. I thought you may be interested to know that we already have articles (at least of stub size) on all English Test cricketers. See List of English Test cricketers. Also the name format that we use for international cricketers tends to be that used on List of international cricketers. Of course, all of these articles could be improved - indeed your A.M. Smith has more info in it than Mike Smith (1967-) and hopefully that info can be merged into it. Finally, please provide a reference for the edits you make - it's just so they can be checked easily and amendments make if you do happen to make an inadvertent error.

Good luck, welcome on board, and happy editing! jguk 08:35, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biography merges

Done. --Paul 06:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3 hundreds in 3 matches

Hi Rob. As you are a bit of a trivia geek you may like to know a couple of other English batsmen have in fact scored centuries in 3 successive test since Allan Lamb did it. Chris Broad managed 3 in 3 downunder and most recently (until today) Graham Gooch during his purple patch in fact managed 4 centuries in 3 matches. I was listening to 5 Live just before your edit of the Ian Bell article - oddly enough they said it was the first time since Lamb did it but Gooch - who is currently commentating -was there to correct them! --LiamE 13:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jonathan Isaby

I've noticed that you've twice added that Isaby had a 'penchant for candles' during his days at York, and I'm wondering how you know this. Assuming that you were born in 1977 (hence the username), I realise that you may well have been a class-/flat-/general mate of his. However, such trivial information really isn't worth adding if it isn't referenced. I could ask Jonathan if his time at York was best characterised by suits and candles, but I'm sure that he'd appreciate his article being more about his rapid rise to importance within both the media and the extra-party structure of the Conservative Party. Bastin 15:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Runaway Bride

What's the exact url you got it from? Press packets are not released to the general public, they are usually only released to press through password protected routes. Secondly, publicity photographs do not usually have the bbc.co.uk/doctor who URL marked on them, so colour me skeptical. Can you produce the license terms on which the BBC has released these pictures? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 15:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, found it. This is where you got it from. And it's obvious because the file name is even the same: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/2006_x/800/doctor_donna2.jpg - the 800x600 resolution one. And let me draw your attention to the little box at the bottom of the page that says: THE BBC MAKES THESE IMAGES AVAILABLE ONLY AS DESKTOP WALLPAPER FOR YOUR PC. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 16:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
My sentence was unclear. The box is at the bottom of This specific page. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 16:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Because those are indeed publicity shots and/or screenshots, not desktop pictures provided for that specific purpose and licensing provisions. You can't just assume and drag stuff off and put them up if there exist specific provisions for their use. In fact, some of those shots you mention are probably also in violation of licensing and should be replaced. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 16:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Copyright laws apply internationally; both the US and UK are signatories to the Berne Convention. You can look it up. Go check the UK CDPA for what constitutes fair dealing, or the US copyright laws (USC 18, IIRC) of fair use; commercial impact is only one factor, and not the deciding one: see the US Supreme Court decision of Acuff-Rose, among others. (And just as a point of information, that Cyberman picture was cropped from an actual picture released by the BBC specifically for promotional purposes, not a desktop picture as in the doctor_donna2.jpg image.) In any case, I don't propose to lecture you on IP law, nor do I want to get involved in a larger conversation about copyrighted pictures on Wikipedia in general which is being whacked out on and on at WP:FUC among others. I merely point out that using that particular desktop picture in that manner was not permissible. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 17:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Rob. I'm afraid that Khaosworks is right: that particular image can't be used on Wikipedia, because the BBC's licensing agreement on the wallpaper page says that it's released solely for use as wallpaper. I was able to fix the Sarah Jane Adventures image because that did come, ultimately, from BBC Picture Publicity: it's a different branch of the BBC, which releases images for press use. I conversed with Shaun Lyon at Outpost Gallifrey to confirm that: he's got a password at BBC Pictures, and that's where the copy on the OG News Page came from. Legally speaking, it's a big difference. Sorry. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 18:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

As an afterthought: if you can make a screenshot from the BBC Christmas programming TV ad, we could use that in the article. If you can do that, upload the image and let me know; I'll fix up the licensing and fair use rationale to the best of my ability, and then we can put it on the article page. Good luck! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 18:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

That's more worthy of the {{tv-screenshot}} tag, since it's actually a screenshot. That being said, it'll probably be replaced once a proper wide-screen screenshot is taken from the actual special when broadcast. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 15:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I've put the appropriate fair use rationale on your image, Rob, but by the time I got around to it someone else had uploaded another image. I'm not sure of the source of that one — if it doesn't last, you should be able to put yours up and it should be kosher to remain, at least until we've got a proper screenshot from the programme itself. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Johnston (police officer)

A tag has been placed on Dave Johnston (police officer), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. (aeropagitica) 23:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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