Talk:Robert Duvall

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Robert Duvall's father is a descendant of French Huguenot settlers, hence the name Duvall. Robert's mother is a descendant of General Robert E. Lee. Lee's family originates in Shropshire, England, thus Duvall's mother is of English ancestry. As such, Duvall qualifies as both a French-American and English-American. Also note: these catagories remained part of Duvall's page for the duration of it's existence until Jack O'Lantern turned up and removed them. He has done this (and continues to do so) with numerous individuals even when no less than a dozen others believe it should stay.

Find me a source that calls Duval either a French-American or an English-American. Having a French great-great-great-etc. grandfather does not a French American make. And if you can name every one of these "dozen others", I'll give you a million dollars. Please read Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No Original Research and Wikipedia:Reliable sources policies. Mad Jack 04:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

First paragraph of the article itself reads:

Duvall was born in San Diego, California. His father, William Howard Duvall, was a former US Navy admiral with French Huguenot roots; his mother was an amateur actress and a descendant of American Civil War General Robert E. Lee. His father was a Methodist and his mother was a Christian Scientist; he was raised in the Christian Science religion, which he claims to follow today despite many years living a decidedly un-Christian lifestyle (as he states in a 2006 article in Vanity Fair).

Thus, Duvall's paternal line of descent traces directly to France, and irregardless of any other possible ethnicity, he qualifies as a French-American, and the category stays.

I don't care. That's your opinion. Being 1/128th French or whatever does not make one a French-American - that's my opinion. And we can't use either my or your opinion. Find a source that describes him as a French American or English AMerican and you can put the category in. Not anything that in your opinion makes him that Mad Jack 04:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe that the term "French-American" should stay; Duvall is a French name and numerous sources (I just don't have the motivation to get them) affirm that his ancestors were French Huguenots. As for English-American, we do not know the extent of his English blood so I'll agree that it should be taken out. Manticore

  • Are you seriously telling me Duvall should be categoried as a French-American because he had a French ancestor 300 years ago? Honestly, people, we're not dealing with the one drop rule here. If you want to describe Duvall as a French American, find a source that describes him as such! Anything else is a violation of WP:NOR. Mad Jack 17:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it does classify him as a French-American, even if it's very, very little blood in him that is French. I'm American, Irish, Scottish, German, and (like most Americans) Cherokee Indian, but I barely have any blood in me that's not pure American. But things like great, great, great, great grandparents and so forth being a certain ethnicity generally passes it down to you (my Grandfather being German, and my great grandfather being Irish, and his wife Scottish, so on, and so on.) Just because it's very little of an ethnicity doesn't mean you're not that ethnicity even in a partial amount. Mattfish 18:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christian Science

There is a category on here detailing his supposed Christian Science adherence. I can only say that this has been disputed as a dubious category. Not much is known about Duvall's religious views. I hope we can find a source. Aaрон Кинни (t) 04:37, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Robert E LEE & Robert DUVALL

Robert E Lee has a relative handful of descendants set out in the family tree for him at the museum for his former home.

for those descendants - see this link http://www.stratfordhall.org/reltree.html

NONE* of those few descents go to actor Robert S Duvall who claims his mom descends from Gen Robert E Lee which is clearly & plainly NOT* TRUE.

  • (Both my expert review of all such possible connections

AND the opinion of the research person at that Lee website.)

s expert

[edit] Service number?

How in the world is someone's service number encyclopedic? It may be a matter of public record (whether it should be if it is could spark another discussion), but why is it encyclopedic? To prove service? There are many other easier and better ways to do that. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a celebrity magazine which might print something like that. (By the time of my service your service number was your social security number, which would hardly belong in the biography of any living person.) Rlquall 15:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)