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[edit] A couple questions from Storkk

[edit] Image:Eagle Scout (Boy Scouts of America).ogg

Hi. I noticed that you saw the file, and that you're a main editor of the article that I read. I was wondering if you had listened to it, and if you could provide me any feedback (positive, or negative). This is my first spoken article for english wikipedia (I've done a couple for simple). I didn't follow the recommended practice of prepending "Section X:" before each heading, because by the time I noticed the omission, it would have been a pain to add that in... is it clear enough as it is? If you think it's necessary, I can add the "Section X" into it without too much hassle. I'd greatly appreciate any input that you might have (though I doubt I'll redo the whole thing any time soon).

Another question: I was thinking it might be appropriate to mention OA (in the context of Brotherhood and Vigil Honor) in the Eagle Scout article, as they are also highly honored distinctions, but very different from Rank. Maybe just as a link with a 1 sentence explanation in "See Also". Alternatively, in the context that it can be earned by scouts up to 21 (which eagle can't). I'm not being bold because I'm not entirely certain that it would be appropriate. --Storkk 13:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Order of the Arrow

I was also wondering whether it would be appropriate to have a section "Ceremony" and/or "Ordeal" in the OA article -- of course, nothing that divulges anything that shouldn't be divulged, but a brief overview might be appropriate. What do you think? I'll dig up my old material and write it if you like. (At some point in the near future, if feedback from my Eagle Scout reading is generally good, I plan to also read the OA article. The current problem is the empty Awards section which just contains a link, with no summary).

Thanks for any input you might have, Storkk 13:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

PS. I'd appreciate any replies on my talk page. Many thanks. --Storkk 13:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ogg info

Ogg Vorbis is a free (as in speech and beer) codec for sound files, similar in concept to MP3. For wikipedia-specific information on playing media, there's a good set of pages starting with Wikipedia:Media help. To summarise that set of pages, what you need to do is download this (current as of today) and install it - making sure that your media playing applications are closed. This will let Windows (I'm assuming that's what you're using) play ogg formats. If you're on another operating system, just go to the second page of the above set and find your OS for instructions. Cheers! and please let me know what you think of my spoken version, I'd like any criticism at all, including accent, speed of reading, quality of audio, etc. :-) Storkk 14:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expert Advice

Hi Rlevse, I am a graduate design student doing a case-study of Wikipedia. I am trying to collect input from users with a high level of involvement like yourself. My goal is to take Wikipedia's design into an experimental direction, one that would assist users and community involvement. I would be greatful, if you have a moment, if you could provide me with some suggestions that would improve the web site design in your opinion. Thank You.Graphixmdp 23:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses a program called MediaWiki, so that's where the acutal design comes from. Wikipedia is just a specific installation of that software. I love the layout and design of Mediawiki. It's functional and easy to use. I'll have to think about suggestions for improvements. I'm only your second edit. How did you find me so fast? Rlevse 23:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I have been observing the site for some time, however, I only recently created an account. I am interested in a more radical approach to a redesign, one that would channel users into the community aspect and increase browsing and grazing search behavior (as opposed to specific searches), and not additional features of layout changes. Thank you for your help.Graphixmdp 00:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
You mean like a faser way to discover there are WikiProjects? Rlevse 00:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but also ways to take discussions further, so that when referenced, users not only read articles, but interact with knowledgable people and are encouraged to contribute themselves.Graphixmdp 00:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bhumibol Adulyadej

I agree that Bhumibol Adulyadej, as a featured article, should not be moved to a new name without consensus. Assuming good faith, I think that the mover wanted to have the "the Great" as one of the names that could be used. Creation of a redirect, which is now in place, works; but, it is possible that the editor was not aware of the nuances. I reviewed the editor's contributions, which seem to be solely related to Thailand-related articles; and the edits seem to be constructive. I think your note should suffice.

You might consider leaving a cordial note on the article's talk page commenting about the move and your reversion of the move.

— ERcheck (talk) 14:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Good points. — ERcheck (talk) 17:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vancouver

My apologies if you took offense at my strikethroughing; that was not my intention. My understanding was that strikethroughs are used to indicate which criticisms have been addressed. I was following what is a common practice on the candidates page. Vancouver is neither the only candidate where this has been done, nor am I the only one who has done it on the Vancouver review, and until now I didn't realize it bothered anyone.Bobanny 15:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, and I hadn't noticed that the guideline is written at the top of the FAC page, or more likely, it's been so long since I've read it that I forgot. I don't think I struck out any comments about the footnotes. If I did, it was inadvertent because I agree with you, and I've alerted others that the citations still need to be systematically gone through.Bobanny 15:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Rlevse 15:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey Rlevse, as you may or may not have noticed, but I haven't had a chance to spend a good amount of time formating the citations. I'm swamped with school, but I expect tomorrow I'll have a bit of time. Thanks for your help, and perhaps your continued help in finishing the work on the citations. I've been looking at some of the other FACs and I see that by far Vancouver is the most active. I am especially pleased with how good this FAC has been for the article in general. Mkdwtalk 09:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Rlevse,

I fixed a couple typos in the footnotes, and they seem to be working now. Thanks for your help.Bobanny 16:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP members

The debate you're looking for is at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_20#WikiProject_participants. We're doing it again because people on CFDU would like to see that discussion reopened. Feel free to bring up the oligarchy argument you introduced last time; I'm sure there are people who haven't heard it.--Mike Selinker 00:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eagle Scout Article

As a fellow boy scout and Eagle Scout, I can not understand why you would delete my addition to your article. All of the information was factual and none of it was of the sort that needs to be cited. (for example you wouln't cite "the Wright Brothers invented the first airplane") Please respond

yours in scouting, Foomaster

When articles are on the main page, they get heavily vandalized and yours was in the midst of two vandalism entries by two anon editors and when you write stuff like "cite book| title=I'm an Eagle Scout so My Source is my Head; How's that For a Citation!?", it just looks like more vandalism, especially when you put WTF in the edit summary also. Your comment about the project being more significant is dubious and FYI the project as we now know it has only been around since 1965. Looking at parts of your edits, I'll agree some are quite good, but you need to be more serious in the others. This article is a Featured Article and we want to keep it that way.

Yours in Scouting, RlevseRlevse 02:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the edit summary and citation, I shouldn't have done that. I was kind of frustrated

with the unnecessarily complicated citation process that Wikipedia has, but I still shouldn't have done it. As far as the project being the most important part I admit that it is arguable. Certainly it is more important than the elective merit badges (as far as being a requirement) but many of the silver ringers are equally important. However, the merit badges don't even get their own section!!! I know that by clicking a few links you can get to a more comprehensive description of the merit badges, but let's face it, who's going to take the time to do that? The answer is very few people. It would be nice if the merit badges were at least listed and maybe a few words about how the merit badges build important life skills and values. Nothing extensive, just a paragraph or two. Look at it this way: While Wikipedia is not supposed to be used for advertising their is nothing wrong with providing useful and factual information that shows people what a great organisation the BSA is. The history of the medals, while interesting and informative, should be secondary to explaining how scouting builds the leaders of tomorrow today, and how achieving the rank of Eagle Scout is the culmination of one's journey through Scouting. Again I am NOT criticizing your article, it is well done. I just think it lacks some things.

Yours in Scouting, Foomaster (fooeditor)

Feel free to add constructive edits, but also keep in mind there are other articles than this one on the BSA and each article has its scope...if you go too far off topic, the article will lose scope and focus and that section(s) will get deleted. One way is to have a summary section with a link to a full-blown main article. Rlevse 03:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I will keep that in mind

Just to butt in here. Could you wait until we are off the main page to make any more edits? I'm sure you have some good things to contribute, but they are getting lost in the noise right now. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 04:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting article on GSUSA

You might want to read this, it's the new format for GSUSA. It doesn't appear to have any Studio 2B and if that's the case the part of me which will always be a scout is rejoycing, but the editor side of me sees a huge edit redox coming up. [1] Darthgriz98 17:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

My suggestion is to start a small blurb on it in the article now and slowing build it up over the next two years until it's in full force. Rlevse 18:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Do you think anybody will mind if I wait until either this weekend or maybe the start of Christmas break to start that? I'm about whipped from school right now with finals comming up and several papers. Plus kinda bonked from the last FA. But I will start putting that in there soon. Darthgriz98 01:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem, do it when you can. Rlevse 02:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
By the way, should I put in a request for no specific date, but nonetheless for main page FA? Or does the intro need more work? I'm concerned that maybe the lead isn't good enough yet, or is it? I tend to critize stuff I write or help write or do for that matter highly. Darthgriz98 02:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
List it here Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests, at the top. I take the intro and tweak it so it fits into the main page space in case it makes it. Include the logo. It's up to you if you want a specific date request. Rlevse 02:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
We can't use the logo, it got removed from the featured article main page request list because it is a free use image, which I'm not so sure it should be since it is a logo. Which do you think we should use, me or Hillary Clinton? Darthgriz98 06:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Hogwash. Then why was this Fair Use image, Image:Vforvendettamov.jpg, on the main page for Nov 5th for the article V for Vendetta and on Nov 14 the Eagle Scout image was an image with the Scout logo tag. That GSUSA logo removal was done by Durin, who is simply a butthead fair use Nazi. I don't like either of the photos for the main page. So, here's my best suggestion and since you asked for the main page on Feb 22, there's plenty of time...Do what I did for the BSA images, contact GSUSA HQ legal dept and asked for use of images on wiki and put that on all the GSUSA logos as part of the rationale, then and/or use the rationale on the Eagle article images as a guide for your Fair Use rationale. When I contacted BSA, I just called them and asked for their head lawyer. PS, Durin's rationale that the main page is not in the article namespace is bogus as the main page is in the article namespace. Rlevse 12:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Will do, I don't think Hill or myself are appropriate, I mean sure the chainsaw is well and good for the section, but unless I was wearing my uniform it's not too great, and Hill and the girls well, no. I will contact them, as a loyal scout for over 13 years they should at least repay me by hearing me out. As for the article changes I am going to wait, I am going to contact my leader latter this year and see if those are taking place there is something not right about them yet. Darthgriz98 16:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok I sent them a request through email with my contact information and request, if they don't get back to me I will call them in January. I'm surprised everything hasn't been taken off that page yet, since most of it is Free-use. Darthgriz98 03:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On your recent reversal of the "fun" edit

"The Lone Scout program serves boys who cannot take part in a nearby troop on a regular basis because of such factors as distance, weather, time, disability or other difficulties. While the boy does not participate in troop or patrol activities, he does learn the fun, values, and achievements of Scouting" i deleted the "fun" because it is POV. Please explain how it could not be POV or i will revert.

You've got to be joking. Millions of boys would disagree with you. I suppose you think sports aren't fun too. Rlevse 20:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes i know a million boys disagree with me. The point is that a million other boys disagree with you. Therefor the subject is well subject to POV/NPOV treatment. The "fun" in the article should be implied just like the "evil" in the hitler article.

[edit] Dime (United States coin)

Can you please elaborate on these issues. List them out, so they can be addressed and crossed out as they're worked on. And with all the particapation we have on this page, could you please allow us a week lead time, to fix these issues. Most GA nominees(especially long ones) are placed on hold for curtesy reasons, and really trying to improve this page instead of just shooting it down, which has happened twice now. We would appreciate it, and we will work on any and all issues. Copied from Talk:Dime (United States coin) Joe I 00:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I only closed it out as no edits had been made since User:Kurt had left his comments 6 weeks earlier on 30 Sep. GA holds are only supposed to last 7 days. That alone told me his concerns hadn't been acted upon. Kurt should have checked up on it after 7 days. My suggestion is to ask him what his remaining concerns were. The quickest way to get GA or FA is to promptly address all concerns raised. I see this is rated A-class by someone. Are you aware A-class is higher than GA? Rlevse 03:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South African Scout Association

Hi, thanks for the review of South African Scout Association. I think the nomination was a bit premature. I haven't been involved in this page for a while but I'll revive my interest in it at some point soon. Zaian 06:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

No one had touched it as of last night, so it'll likely fail. Rlevse 11:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I've just done a bit of a cleanup, but it may not be enough. Zaian 15:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for tidying up my lazy citations. I've added a few more, and done them properly this time. Zaian 08:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks alot for the work both of you (Zaian and Rlevse) have done on the article. I haven't much time recently to work on it, but that should change soon, if there is anything you want help with just let me know Jediwannabe 12:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mil refs

Hmm, nobody in particular comes to mind; the article tends to attract rather more interest from the Scouting side than the military side, and I can't recall, offhand, anyone with an interest in the Boer Wars themselves. You might try leaving a note here, but I'm not sure how quickly you'll actually get some citations from that.

There's a good history of the Boer War available online, though, so you might be able to pull the needed citations for that part of his career from there without too much trouble. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 04:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Rlevse 04:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luton Town Hall

I just read the first few paragraphs and this doesn't even tell you what country this is in????ARGH!!!Rlevse 12:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Added England, to location.GazMan7 16:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell

Do you need anymore military or family references for your GAR? — ERcheck (talk) 16:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we have enough for the GAR, but more never hurts. Many thanks. Rlevse 17:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

I was trying to revert the anon's blanking of the page, I mistakingly reverted to the wrong version, I reverted myself right away. --ManiF 21:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like we overlapped each other. I've seen this before. I rm'd the warning on your page. Sorry for the trouble. Rlevse 21:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cathedrals

Hi Rlevse!

Let me explain where I am coming from with regards Cathedrals.

  • I'm an Art Historian. If you read the page Art history you find that Art Historians read artworks as documents. In other words- when one cites an artwork, eg Chartres Cathedral, then that artwork is the evidence for the information... unless of course the information in POV or purely speculative.
  • I have referenced 9 pertinent art books below the inline references. These are (with one exception) large and fat. I have read, studied and inwardly digested these and at least two thousand more.
  • Now, although Wiki doesn't encourage original research, it needs (like desperately needs) expertise. What I have written is not original research. There is nothing original about any of it. It is entirely based upon a system of looking at buildings devised more than 100 years ago by one of the earliest and most renowned architectural historians. If you go back to the article you will find the method credited before it is appplied.
  • This article is purely descriptive in nature. Is not contentious, is not provocative, or philosophic. It's not ancient history, because it talks about solidly tangible things. This is not the same as trying to decided whether or not Leonardo was gay or Einstein was autistic or Jesus was the son of a virgin. In other words, there are no articles, or reviews or biographies or even any recent research that needs to be cited to support anything that is said here. The buildings stand as their own evidence.

Yes, I do write at length. --Amandajm 15:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree wiki needs expertise, but FAs require several verifiable refs in inline cites and your article doesn't have enough. Rlevse 15:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Vilnius Castle Complex

Hello, some questions arouse to me about GA Vilnius Castle Complex, I left them on article talk page. When you have time please view them. Thanks in advance. M.K. 12:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your input and suggestions! Cheers M.K. 23:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Scouting and mormonism

Well, my scouting friend, I didn't refer to a Wiki article. I referred to the actual show - season and episode as specified. But I'll fix some written references just to make you happy. :-)

Peace!

Duribald 13:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't really see how my reference could cause such confusion, but I'll keep it simple and academic in the future.

Duribald 15:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting vandalism

Many thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. Much appreciated, Gwernol 16:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minnesota

The refs have all been fixed. -Ravedave (help name my baby) 00:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military brat

Hi Rlevse, I was looking at the FA nominations page and noticed that you are an active contributor there with a lot of good thoughts/recommendations. I am working on an article, that I would love to get to FA status but I'm not sure what else needs to be done to get it there. I was hoping that you might take a look at it and give me some advice? Also, how long does an article need to be 'stable' before being considered for an FA? This article has undergone MAJOR revisions over the past month (nominated for deletion when I first started!) Right now most of the revisions are coming as a result of peer reviews and my soliciting comments from people who make changes on the page. I'll watch your page for a response.Balloonman 19:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

  • PS... just noticed that you are a fellow Eagle Scout... Balloonman 19:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks for all of your help...Balloonman 06:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Made changes... contemplating the homosexual changes... on the one hand, it is one of the sections that I think is the weakest... but on the other hand, I think it is fairly important to include because of the military's attitude towards homosexuality... I'll sleep on it... Oh, I did nominate the article for GA.Balloonman 07:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rover Scouts

Please keep an eye on this so the user who keeps adding a large paragraph on a single Rover Crew in Canada knows it is not only me who thinks it is inappropriate. I have told him on his talk page to write an article on Rovers in Canada and give it a brief mnention there as it does seem notable in a way. Cheers, Brian. --Bduke 22:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use image use

Rlevse, fair use images such as Image:Scouting Nederland.jpg are not permitted to be used in Portal space, per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria item #9. I've asked about this before, and have done research into this issue to determine actual policy on this matter. You can see some of this work at User:Durin/Fair_use_miscellany#Fair_use_on_portals. I've reverted your re-insertion of the image back into the portal pages. Please do not re-insert the images. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. --Durin 01:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I could care less. I changed them back, you waste my time, I waste your time.Rlevse 02:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
  • You are welcome to your opinion. It does not change policy. If you continue to re-insert the images, as you just did here, it will be considered vandalism and you may be temporarily blocked from editing. --Durin 02:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Doesn't scare me. I'd be glad to get away from users such as you who make wiki a pain to use instead of fun. You must relish in all this hate and discontent you cause. You're the only user I know that has to write pages and pages trying to defend himself. Rlevse 02:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Good sir, please visit User:Husnock/Durinconcerns. I am trying to keep a record of disputes with this user. -Husnock 04:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

Please have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Translations#Algeria. User:Evrik moved the respective article without reaching a consensus. --jergen 10:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

So here is my comment:
In the discussion about renaming Scouts Musulmans Algériens we did not reach any consensus since two main points could not be answered:
  • Does the SMA use an English translation of its name?
  • Is Algerian Muslim Scouts the official translation of Scouts Musulmans Algériens?
To me we should have reached consensus at least on the second question: The only source for this translation was scout.org which seems to bee unreliable to most of the contributors on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Translations; for more details see the section on Albania.
Despite the opposition of Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) and me and without any support for his position, Evrik moved the article on very short notice (for details see Talk:Algerian Muslim Scouts (last entry in the discussion on 20:56, 27 November 2006 and (move on 22:03, 27. Nov. 2006). Further on he made two minor edits in Scouts Musulmans Algériens to prevent any revert in his unsupported decision. Later on he deleted the whole discussion from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Translations so that it looked like an unquestioned move with broad support. --jergen 13:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • So much of that is not true ... so untrue. In any case. I will agree to the mediation, but am really busy in real life right now. It may take me a couple of days to respond to anything. --evrik (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC on Bacteria

Hi there. Thank you for your input, we have dealt with your comment and I hope you will be able to support this nomination. Thanks again. TimVickers 17:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military brat assessment

Looper5920 has assessed the Military brat article. For the Military History project, assessments above B-class require more extensive review. GAs go through the main GA review; for A-class, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment#Requests for A-Class status, which requires a formal review by the project. Is the author interested this prior to FAC? I noted that the article has already been through the Project's peer review. — ERcheck (talk) 03:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Polish-Romanian Alliance

Hey there Rlevse,

Could you take a look at the article Polish-Romanian Alliance, it was nominated for GA... but I didn't think it was ready for GA (but I decided not to fail it either because I thought it had potential and I'll give the writer a chance first.) So I made several comments, the primary writer rather than accepting or rejecting the comments has become defensive/close to personal attacks in his response. Could you let me know if you think my comments were out of line, on the money, and what you (as a more experienced reviewer) would have done? PS respond here to keep discussion in tack.Balloonman 17:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Does that answer your question? Rlevse 17:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Nod, I came very close to failing it outright myself, but I get the impression that the author might not be a native English speaker, so I gave it a little more room. If I had known that he was going to get so defensive, I probably would have simply failed it. Thanks for taking a look at it.Balloonman 17:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Connection to Scouting

Sorry if this seems kinda out of place, but you seem very knowledgeable and passionate about Scouting, so I'm just curious to know what sort of connection do you have in Scouting. If your connected to a Troop and it has a web page mind passing the address my way? One of my stranger hobbies is to browse web sites of Scout troops around the world. My own troops address is [2]. Jediwannabe 13:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I don't mind. I've been in Scouts most of the time since I was a Cub in the mid 1960s. I made Eagle Scout. My son is an Eagle Scout too. Scouts has done wonders for my life. I am currently the Advancement Chairman for my troop and the Advancement Chairman for our district. I am a 3-bead Wood Badger. I keep the database for my troop and pack as well as their website. Very nice site you have there. My site is at [3]. Rlevse 13:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. You've been in Scouting almost as long as our Troop Scouter (Who was a Troop Scouter back in the late 60s). I'm one of those unlucky ones who missed the Springbok badge (the South African equivalent of the Eagle Scout) by a couple of months, but I've been in Scouting since I was a Cub in the mid 1990s, currently a Assistant Troop Scouter, webmaster and database keeper. Scouts has done wonders in my life as well, doing my Wood Badge late next year (Can't wait). Nice site you got there as well, if you ever in the mood to redesign it take a look at CMScout (Sorry, couldn't help my self) Jediwannabe 14:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Rlevse, you have lived in the Netherlands! Wat gezellig --Egel Reaction? 14:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I loved my one year there. I lived in Utrecht. Rlevse 15:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kennet and Avon Canal GA candidate

Thanks for your comments on the Kennet and Avon Canal article. As you suggested I've expanded the lead to give a fuller description of the main article describing the route of the canal. Any further suggestions welcome. — Rod talk 14:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South African Scout Association

I passed South African Scout Association but I wasn't sure what category you guys had the scouting articles that were GA... so I didn't add it to one of the lists. Where should it go?Balloonman 19:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

They go in different ones. The Eagle Scout one (before it became FA) was in Awards. Baden-Powell went into bios I think, etc. I'd put this one in "Cultural phenomena, movements and subcultures". Thanks for the help. Rlevse 19:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Two other things, First, after finishing my more in depth comments, did you understand why I put it on hold rather than simply passing it? There were a few important points that I thought needed to be addressed (such as mentioning Springbok earlier and defining some terms better.) The one's I included in my QUICK response was more of a "here are some high level one's that you could look into." Second, I know you offered to pass the Military brat article as a GA. You asked me to ping you a reminder in a few days... I was going to ask for another set of eyes, but the Military Peer Review has provided quite a few (3 or 4 people have commented and 3 or 4 others have made their own improvements directly.)Balloonman 22:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I agree you had reason to put it on hold. That was the right choice and you had several good improvments made.Rlevse 23:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good, I went ahead and nominated this for FAC... I skipped the A level review based upon your comments and the review notes from the military history peer review. I suspect it would pass that with no problem, so I'll see how the FAC goes. Thanks for all of your help.Balloonman 23:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem, wiki-buddy.Rlevse 01:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Advertising

Meh. My most obvious suggestion would be to replace the (frankly quite useless) "Title" section at the top of your project page with a more detailed introduction that gives a more precise description of the project's scope. (That's the approach MILHIST took to clear up the perpetual questions about the meaning of "military history", anyways.) Kirill Lokshin 20:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Advertise our project

How about the Signpost? See Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About. Looking at the Newsroom, it seems that it is a regular feature to include a WikiProject. — ERcheck (talk) 22:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Outstanding! I never thought of it! Rlevse 22:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
BTW, User:Nathannoblet writes the WikiProject feature of the Signpost. — ERcheck (talk) 22:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military Brat

Thanks for all of the work and help on the Military Brat article. Balloonman 06:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for all of the work and help on the Military Brat article. Balloonman 06:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again, you really helped out a lot and got a few more eyes to look at the article which really helped.Balloonman 06:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting for FAC

I don't now what direction to take on the "Sections" section now - I had a clear idea earlier this week, but the discussions over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scouting has brought in a confounding factor... still, that section is heavily fudged, and I will endeavour to do something about it tomorrow. Horus Kol 11:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the section is pretty much there now - well done on putting such a swinging cut on it without dropping too much information... I've added a couple of other mentions about parallel programs like Extension Scouting and Sea Scouts, but I think we've almost cracked it. Horus Kol 09:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Scoutlink (UK) is now a very short stub... i will try to pad it a bit more - but there isn't much information on the web about it, unfortunately. Horus Kol 10:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military brat (U.S. subculture)

Hi Rlevse, I've started a discussion on the talk page for Military brat (U.S. subculture) about the new name. Is Military brat (U.S. subculture) the best or should it be "U.S. military brat" or something else? Also, thanks for your support on it's FAC.Balloonman 22:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Hi. I've not run VandalProof ... I didn't know that it had the capability of showing who was online. Interesting. I've got a quiet few moments and was checking in and making a few edits. My RL has been quite demanding lately and I've had less time for Wikipedia... I expect it to be the case through the holiday. I notice that the Scouting project has recently added a number of new articles on Girl Guides and a Religion in Scouting article. Nice adds. — ERcheck (talk) 13:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re: The

Greetings from the guy who wrote the Cambodian Civil War article. I know you guys (editors I guess, not contributors) run around and "clean up" articles. But you are about the sixth or seventh that I have run across that does not seem to care one way or another how your changes alter the context of what else has been written. Eg. The Vietnamese Massacres as a topic heading - I know, you are not supposed to use the article. But your changing of it without considering the context of the remainder of the text completely altered its meaning. By removing the article it appeared in the heading (Vietnamese Massacres) that it was the Viets that were doing the killing and not the other way around. A simpler way of doing it would have been to change it to Massacre of the Vietnamese (which I promptly did). This is a long-winded explanation of what I consider one of the true banes of this conglomeration. Editors that alter text, insert incorrect information, and do not clean up their own messes. RM Gillespie 22:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Your comments are unwarranted and banal. If you didn't make the mess, others wouldn't have to clean it up. I was only trying to help make it as good as possible and get fewer hits on a FAC, but if you don't care, I don't. BTW, by "only cleaning up" as you've call it, I've written 6 FAs. Rlevse 23:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Oooh I'm Impressed! And not one whit surprised by your response. Birds of a feather do indeed fly together. RM Gillespie 01:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Grow up. Rlevse 01:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Boy Scouting by State

I'm finally getting around to added OA lodge information and links to more states. I'm kinda stuck, as I'd like to ask your advice on if or how I can add to the Insular areas and councils overseas line of the AmScoutbystate stub (or whatever you call it). Even though Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, and Palau are independent countries, as former trust territories they still use the BSA program and are part of the Aloha Council. As such, is it appropriate that these three countries be added? I don't think they would fall under American Scouting overseas, as that refers to Direct Service, BSA. I just don't want to start another long winded discussion that ticks off the much more experienced Wiki members. Thanks for your help in advance.Robhmac 02:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, American Scouting overseas has two councils, which that article refers to: Transatlantic Council and Far East Council (mostly troop on US military bases). Since the ones you mention are part of Aloha Council, I'd leave the stub the way it is. Let me know if you have more questions. Rlevse 02:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Serial Experiments Lain

Hello. I understand Japanese animation might not be your personnal passion, but would you mind having a quick glance at Serial Experiments Lain to point out its text weaknesses? It is going through FAC and its text has been deemed insufficient to pass criterion 1a. I hear you're one of the best editors in this regard, so here I am. --SidiLemine 12:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

At a first quick look: fix the citation needed tag into a ref, fix the split tag issue, refs come at the the end of punctuation not in the middle of a sentence and with no space btwn the punct and ref, why are things like ISBN numbers in the text-they should be a ref. Hope this helps.Rlevse 13:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I've done the citations, and I'm waiting for feedback before splitting. The footnotes have been placed in accordanc with wikipedia:footnotes. It says to place right after the fact to back; is there something saying the opposite somewhere? About the ISBNs, do you mean the books in the "other media" section? Thanks a lot anyway.--SidiLemine 14:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
in wikipedia:footnotes, under "Where to place ref tags" it says "The ref tag should be placed directly after most punctuation marks,[3] without an intervening space in order to prevent the reference number wrapping to the next line."Rlevse 14:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Perfectly true. I guess I didn't link the two sentences together (there may be another explanation, but it woul be a bit insulting for me so....) Thanks. --SidiLemine 14:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I'm pestering, but I just wanted to know if there is a chance you might give the article a copyedit?--SidiLemine 11:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pavlovsk

Hi Randy, I put it on there because I intended to put that it is the historic home of Russian Scouting, but my break ended before I could get it in. Thanks. Chris 02:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok. THen put the tag back in and start it start/high. Tony, the objection-bot just torpedoed our Scouting FAC. Rlevse 03:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for an article

You did such a phenomenal job on the Medal of Honor article, I thought you would be the right person to write an article on this topic (I didn't find one already written):

The Stolen Valor Act of 2005

As I hear about impersonators, I get incensed. When I read today's Marine Corps Times article on the man arraigned for wearing the Navy Cross (along with a number of other medals) to the Marine Corps Ball, I was astounded at the gall. So, that leads to a request for an article about the Stolen Valor Act and perhaps a history section about impersonators and laws, past and present. — ERcheck (talk) 06:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Scout Association of Hong Kong - GAR

The Scout Association of Hong Kong has been put up (without notice, this is probably by accident) for GAR. Can you please inform the Scouting Wikiproject that it's up for GAR and work to improve it accordingly? Thanks - Malkinann 02:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Stolen Valor Act of 2005

Looks good. Thanks for creating it! Kirill Lokshin 18:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks so much for creating the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 article! Definitely an article that needed to be added. It looks good. I made some edits to an introductory paragraph and added another category. — ERcheck (talk) 21:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link to response from CBDunkerson (eom)

[edit] PR script

To respond to the specific notes,

  • 'concise' is misleading. It just checks that none of the images don't have captions, and often times images in infoboxes don't have those captions. (now that I'm writing this, I've just thought of a way to get around this :) )
  • It actually only looks at article length (if size > 50000 characters), since this happens to be the first time anyone has brought up the subpages comment. Many FAs meet WP:SS and are way above 50kb, so I'll fix it to check for {{Main}} and other main articles links.

I like the concept of a guide. There are some un-updated and often unuseful footnotes at User:AndyZ/PRnotes, but that's it right now. Thanks for the feedback, AZ t 22:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

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