Category talk:Rivers of Hong Kong

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[edit] CFD Discussion

  • This category was listed for deletion on March 24, 2005. Consensus was to Keep. The following discussion took place and should not be modified.

This category only contains two actual rivers, of which the Sham Chun River forms the boundary between Hong Kong and Guangdong. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 19:42, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep. There are not only two rivers in Hong Kong, and more articles are yet to be created. Besides Sham Chun River and Shing Mun River, Tsak Yue Chung is a river flows into Quarry Bay (the Quarry Bay article talks about the place, the river and the bay). The name of the river gives the place the Chinese name, and the Bay gives the English name. This website has a partial list of the rivers in Hong Kong. — Instantnood 21:55, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep it only if you Chinese fanatics agree to populate all Rivers of Some Province of China and not get into spitting wars. Throw it away if it is just another place to argue about who is or isn't part of China. MadreBurro 18:06, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: Hong Kong is not just a province, unlike Hawaii or Alaska to the other 48 states of the US. — Instantnood 05:40, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
    • comment. States are not provinces. They are states. Provinces are provinces. Grutness|hello? 23:46, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • COMMENT States are provinces and provinces are states. Each country calls their political subdivisions whatever, and have whatever powers they are given, where some are more or less powerful than others. Hence Prefectures in Japan, Departements in France, the Cantons of Switzerland, the Republics of Russia, national cities of China, Federal District of Columbia (Washington DC) ... (Note that Australians also refer to the Northern Territory as a state, even though it isn't) 132.205.15.43 14:26, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • comment States are states in those countries where they are called states, and ditto provinces. Instantnood was naming Hawaii and Alaska as provinces, yet that is not what they are called, since in the US they are officially designated as states. Since they are states according to American law, they are not provinces. No-one talks about the United Provinces of America, do they? Grutness|hello? 08:08, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
        • I was comparing the relations of Hong Kong to the PRC, with that of Hawaii or Alaska to the United States. — Instantnood 12:49, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Many provinces currently lack even categories of their own, let alone river categories. All of these are currently red links: Category:Anhui, Category:Fujian, Category:Gansu, Category:Guangdong, Category:Guangxi, Category:Guizhou, Category:Hainan, Category:Hebei, Category:Heilongjiang, Category:Henan, Category:Hubei, Category:Hunan, Category:Inner Mongolia, Category:Jiangsu, Category:Jilin, Category:Liaoning, Category:Ningxia, Category:Qinghai, Category:Shaanxi, Category:Shandong, Category:Shanxi, Category:Sichuan, Category:Tianjin, Category:Yunnan, Category:Zhejiang Susvolans (pigs can fly) 08:06, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment: Hong Kong and Macao are not provinces. — Instantnood 08:10, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
        • Comment. I dont see why you guys are arguing over these terms, when you can just say sub-national entities instead, for example. The provinces, municipalities, autonomous regions and special administrative regions are all sub-national entities of the PRC.--Huaiwei 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
          • Provinces, municipalities and autonomous regions are province-level. Special administrative regions are not, or at least, may not be. — Instantnood 08:49, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)