Talk:Riemann integral
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[edit] Animated image
Hello. Riemann integral is a very nice article. I wonder about the animated image. I agree that it's useful for viewing in a browser, but I don't think it would be as useful on a printed page. I don't see a good reason to rule out printed copies; this article could easily be something a student would print out for reference, for example. Can we convey the same information by displaying each frame of the animation separately? -- Sequences of graphs are going to be pretty common in the math articles, and so I think it's important to set a good precedent here. I look forward to your comments. Wile E. Heresiarch 16:38, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Personally I think the animated image is great. It really gets accross the idea well and takes advantage of what the web format can offer. I do see your point that in print it would not work. So the answer would not be to remove the animation from the web version, but to make sure it translated to a series of images perhaps in a future print version. - Taxman 20:38, Jun 21, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Older discussion
Maybe needs paragraph about Stieltjes generalization. Or perhaps link to separate article about same.
- Done
Do you mean totally bounded functions and all that stuff? Loisel 07:30 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Image
Isn't it far TOO BIG?
[edit] Merge?
I think the Riemann sum and the Riemann integral have too much in common. I suggest merging information from them into Riemann integral, and make Riemann sum a redirect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Igny (talk • contribs).
- I would not be opposed to it. But I think you would need to also write your proposal on talk:Riemann sum and maybe even contact User:Icedemon who had put a lot of effort into that one. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 18:19, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I was not aware that a Riemann integral site existed. I agree that hte two should be merged, perhaps entering the work I did on Right/Left/Middle/Trapezoidal into the Examples section of the Riemann Integral page. Icedemon 03:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Well, in this case I would not be for the move. The article Riemann integral is rather well-written and self-contained, while the article Riemann sum has a lot of wording which I find reduntant. All those sections on left Riemann sum, right Riemann sum, middle Riemann sum could be described just in a couple of sentences instead of several screenfuls of text. In fact, I already did that, see the ==Defintion== section in Riemann sum. So I would agree to move from Riemann sum to Riemann integral just the picture and a paragraph or two; most of the work there is reduntant. Otherwise, I would suggest leaving thing the way they are. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- I agree that Left, Right, Middle, and Trapezoidal sums can be explained in a few sentences, but not to anybody that is not a mathematician. Please remember that the goal of Wikipedia is not only to be succint, but also to explain the subject in a manner that is understandable by everybody. I have attempted to do so in Riemann sum, and you still refer to my work as "redundant". Redundancy is necessary, in this case, in order to properly explain the material to anybody that does not have a degree in mathematics. As for hte merge, I maintain that either the Riemann Sum Left,Middle,Right, and Trapezoidal be moved in their entirety to Riemann integral or the pages remain separate. Icedemon 00:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- That's what I am saing too. The material at Riemann sum is way too detailed to be included in Riemann integral. So then the two articles should be separate. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:29, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- I agree that Left, Right, Middle, and Trapezoidal sums can be explained in a few sentences, but not to anybody that is not a mathematician. Please remember that the goal of Wikipedia is not only to be succint, but also to explain the subject in a manner that is understandable by everybody. I have attempted to do so in Riemann sum, and you still refer to my work as "redundant". Redundancy is necessary, in this case, in order to properly explain the material to anybody that does not have a degree in mathematics. As for hte merge, I maintain that either the Riemann Sum Left,Middle,Right, and Trapezoidal be moved in their entirety to Riemann integral or the pages remain separate. Icedemon 00:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Well, in this case I would not be for the move. The article Riemann integral is rather well-written and self-contained, while the article Riemann sum has a lot of wording which I find reduntant. All those sections on left Riemann sum, right Riemann sum, middle Riemann sum could be described just in a couple of sentences instead of several screenfuls of text. In fact, I already did that, see the ==Defintion== section in Riemann sum. So I would agree to move from Riemann sum to Riemann integral just the picture and a paragraph or two; most of the work there is reduntant. Otherwise, I would suggest leaving thing the way they are. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] LaTeX formatting
Who tagged this page as needing LaTeX formatting, and what do you need done? –Ryan McDaniel 15:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
- You can tell who put the tag from the article history. The work to be done is converting html formulas to TeX formulas, which I think is not urgent at all, or maybe not even necessary. I'd suggest the template be removed from this talk page. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
