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[edit] Upper class vs. squires
I saw upper class in the description on HP lexicon and I though it looked better and I'm pretty sure the book says nothing about Squires. I could be wrong, but I'd need a citation to be sure. John Reaves 09:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- If the book says nothing about Squires, then they are even lower status. Simply put: the Lexicon has it wrong. A Squire is higher than a gentleman (thus he is an Esquire rather than a Mr), but he nonetheless belongs to the upper end of the middle classes, rather than to the upper classes. And if the Riddles weren't Squires (i.e. not descendants of a knight, distantly related to a peer, or patrons of the church) then they were simply a rich middle class family - who probably made their money through trade - that decided to settle down and play Squire Hamley. Nor can they be categorised as upper class through wealth or land - we know they were rich, but not how rich; and the amount of land they owned was hardly impressive on a national scale. They dominated Little Hangleton, but we don't know of anywhere else. They certainly appear, according to the text, to be big by village standards, but hardly massive. Michaelsanders 10:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Can we just remove Squire than, and leave it as "well off" or just "privliged"?. Any official title is both irrelevant and assumption. John Reaves 10:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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- That seems the simplest thing - there is no doubt that they were both well off and privileged, and debates about their class are irrelevant. I'll do that now if you haven't. Michaelsanders 11:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
