User talk:Rhssoccer
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[edit] Apology
Dear Mr. "Patstuart", I am terribly sorry for any problems Franklin (ScoobyDooGuy1991) caused you, I just received his letter and he told me what happened. He's my sister's nephew, and for some reason is a huge fan of mine. The reason he caused all these problems was that he thought you were saying he was a liar, and knowing everything he said was true, it just hurt his feelings a little. I had a talk with him, and this shouldn't happen again. I am a little bit curious though, why there isn't anything on here about my coins, or me. I'm on tv.com and imdb.com, but it doesn't matter, I don't mind, I'm not too big a star. Again, I'm really sorry for any trouble that was caused. -Bradford N. Smith, and I'm new at this thing, so hopefully what I typed will show up correctly. Also, I typed this same thing in under "Bradford Smith Good Luck Tokens", but I'm not sure if you saw it, so I thought I'd type it in here.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rhssoccer (talk • contribs).
- I'm sorry about the incident, if it caused some hurt feelings. As the page is deleted, I can only speak from my memory, and from the log on your nephew's page, as to what it was. If I remember, it was some type of coins or pogs that he created and he and his friends liked to play. I do not doubt for a second that it was true, but it fails Wikipedia's notability guildelines, specifically WP:NFT; as Jim Douglas pointed out on Scooby's userpage, there was only one google hit, and that was on this encyclopedia. Please understand that there are rules to Wikipedia, and we cannot accept just anything. As to yourself, I would encourage you to try to create a page for your name, however, I'm not sure if even that would pass WP:BIO (you also might want to tread carefully on the Conflict of interest page, should you create it). However, if you think you can prove notability, I encourage you to add the page.
- Also, please understand that your nephew was not banned for creating the page; it was for the way he conducted himself afterwards by vandalizing the talk pages of the people who had been involved in removing the page (my conscience is ticking at me; do me a favor and please don't get mad at him if you didn't know about this before; I wouldn't have written it if I thought you might). The official reason was a bad user name, which only holds some water (I don't think he was trying to impersonate anyone), but I suspect it had more to do with the vandalism. If your nephew were to appeal the block, he may or may not win, so long as he showed remorse, and promised to act in good faith from here on.
- Finally, if you're still seeking answers, I encourage you to look at the log history of the Bradley Smith Good Luck Tokens page, and you can contact the administrator who removed it, as he can look on the actual contents of the page. He can also give a more official voice to Wikipedia than myself. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 23:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I have replied back to this under your discussion page for September in the article entitled "Bradford Smith Good Luck Tokens", in case you are wondering -Bradford N. Smith
- Thanks. It's usually better to just respond right to the talk page, and to respond to the end of it (that's OK though - it's not like we hold it against you). I don't have time to say much, but basically, ScoobyDoo didn't show us the information that you've showed us (e.g., the part about you having an imdb entry); he certainly didn't mention that these things helped you get on Letterman. If you could provide some sort of reference, this would help out greatly. I would mention more about notability concerns, but I have to get going. Thanks for your time. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 03:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia guidelines for biographies of living people
Hi Mr. Smith, Pat Stuart is unavailable, and he asked me to follow up with you. As I recall, the issue was that the article was not sourced. There are about 4,000 new articles created on Wikipedia on a daily basis; half of them are deleted (either immediately, or after a few days of review) because they fail one or more of our guidelines. The specific issue in this case was that the article included no references, and we were unable to confirm the facts of the article through verifiable third-party sources. The overall guidelines can be found here: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. The specific problem with the original article was with this guideline: Wikipedia:Verifiability. The gist of the policy is explained in this sentence:
- "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Editors should provide a reliable source for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or it may be removed."
If Franklin rewrites the article, being sure to cite sources that can be cross-checked by other editors, then the article will be less likely to be immediately deleted, as it was last time. To be completely honest, we still can't guarantee that it won't be deleted...but without verifiable references, it definitely will be.
Please feel free to follow up with me on anything at all. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 03:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
