Talk:Reverse (bridge)

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The article states:

By the criteria given above, the final bid shown in these sequences is not a reverse:

• 1♣ – 1♥; 1♠ (The bid is at the one-level)
• 1♦ – (2♣) – 2♥; 2♠ (The bid's level is forced by the 2♣ overcall)
• 1♣ – 1♥; 2♠ (The bid is a jump)

I think this is just overcomplicating things. in all these examples, the reason the final bid is not a reverse is simply the fact that the bid is in a suit that has not been skipped by partner. I propose we remove these redundant and confusing criteria from the article. JocK 02:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't disagree. It was in the original article so I left it in. Quite a lot of that middle section as a bit muddled and over the top so I would be quite happy to see you simplify it considerably ... thereby making it more readable.Abtract 02:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, took a first stab at it. Reverse :) if u don't like it. JocK 02:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I've done some more but there are still almost no citations and many uses of the weasel word 'most'. Abtract 09:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)