Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/24.168.92.117
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UninvitedCompany has claimed that many of Wigdor's edits are factually sound but has not dealt with the question of material removed by the individual(s) in question that such individual(s) have not even bothered to make any claim to back up. For instance, he (they) have not claimed that the Chicago Surrealist Group did not play an important role in the mounting of the 1976 World Surrealist Exhibition, yet removed it. --Daniel C. Boyer 20:56, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Dear Daniel, I have read the Requests for Comments concerning the edits. You do not provide any response to my questions regarding the factual information that I am requesting. The reason for my edits is for the benefit of the entire Wikipedia Community, so that they have the best and most accurate information on Surrealism. Daniel, you have been on Wikipedia for quite some time know, and with all due respect to you sir, I can see that your efforts to maintain a vested self-interest for exposure for your friends, is very obvious. Daniel, this is not an allegation, nor is this inflammatory at all. Consider the simple question that I ask you over and over again, yet you still do not answer. Did Franklin and his wife Penelope Rosemont really meet Andre Breton, and is there any pictures to prove that? Daniel, these people are your friends and you are a contributor to Ron's book, that all of your friends are in together. Whether or not, your contribution to, "Surrealist Subversions" is minimal or not, does not make a difference. These people are your friends, you collaborate with all of them and you have a vested self-interest in getting exposure that is needed. Remember, Daniel, all of your friends do sell their art, or am I wrong? Anyway, I respectfully disagree with the allegations against the edits. They are in good faith. Regarding Zazie, she is a Cyberartist and she is part of the WEBISM Movement. Pygoya's Webism Manifesto is absolutely inconsistent and hostile to anything that has to do with Surrealism. You read it, so did I. Zazie is a Webist, not a surrealist, that I respectfully say is a fact. In regards to your friends, The Rosemonts, I say, they never met Andre Breton, that is not true and very misleading to the public. Also, the removal of THE WEST COAST SURREALIST GROUP from the SURREALISM article is not fair. They were Very Involved with Surrealism and their work has been documented by Jose Pierre, Andre Breton's personal assistant. I know that you really want me off Wikipedia, I can see that. However, my edits are in good faith. I will not stand by and allow the Wikipedia Community and the public believe innaccurate misinformation on Surrealism. I asked you for a simple Picture of Franklin and Penelope with Breton. If you show me that, I can work out any compromises with you, as I have done with the Surrealism page, before it was unprotected. Also, if you were to show me any public statement by Zazie denouncing Webism, then I would stand by All of your information on here 100%. Daniel, this is Surrealism, you know it. Daniel, I would also like to see any article on Andre Thirion, that would be nice.
- If you want an article on Andre Thirion, write it yourself. This is Wikipedia. --Daniel C. Boyer 00:42, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] STILL NO ANSWER
It amazes me how Daniel still refuses to answer a simple question and the request to authenticate his friends claims to have actually met Breton. They never did.
Wigdor,
This page isn't about Daniel. This page is about you. Maybe Daniel is correct about an alleged meeting, and maybe he's not, but that's not what's important here. This page is about your constant reverts and inappropriate use of Wikipedia. You used your entire "response" to deflect attention away from you, and to make counter-accusations against Daniel (who did not create this page.) You might want to respond against the charges made against you. Quadell (talk) 12:37, Aug 16, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Is this RfC active?
I notice this RfC isn't time-stamped; is it under active consideration? Was any conclusion reached? The same user is still active under different IP addresses, and still up to much the same things, it seems. Would it be better to start a fresh RfC, as and when this proves necessary, or to add to this one? Alai 03:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
