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  • talk:Criticism of Prem Rawat disputes about inclusion of allegations of anxiety alleviated by heavy drinking. Also dispute about whether this article should be merged with Prem Rawat. 02:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
  • A dispute exists regarding the Jung Myung Seok article. The biographry in question is of a relatively unknown religious figure, but may be used as a primary source of research for those concerned. Those who oppose the individual seem to employ the wiki article as a vehicle for propaganda, rather than as a neutral source for factual (and thereby credibly cited) information. Instead, they cite their own overtly malicious webpages as primary sources and claim vandalism when the offending citations are removed.
  • Multiple disputes at Talk:James Kim regarding a variety of things, including a timeline (which there seems to be a consensus on but an editor has threatened edit warring over it), a long debate over speculating about what Kim did and didn't do, and a number of other unresolved debates.00:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Recurring dispute reagarding Alireza Jafarzadeh. Some editors are claiming that some of the information written about him is libelous, despite that the information is sourced. They also claim that the given sources are partisan. --Ezeu 00:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  • talk:Kim Richard Nossal#re: Drinking Game This debate has been off and on for about two months now, with a number of IP address users consisten tly re-adding a drinking game to the Nossal article, defending its inclusion while ignoring WP:OR. Some neutral editors would be welcome to educate these users of Wikipedia's original research policy. 05:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • talk:Bat Ye'or#Gisele Littman (born Orebi) This debate has been off and on for some time now. According to some editors, Bat Ye'or (a pseudonym for Gisele Littman) wishes only to be known by her pen name while other editors believe that she is a public figure and an active participant in public discourse, so the article should include her real name. 23:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • talk:Jennifer Ann's Group This is a tricky situation. Drew30319 (talk contribs) created a bio page for his murdered daughter, which was userfied and deleted after an AfD discussion. Since he'd had some prior conflict with the first editor to comment, he claimed it was a personal attack or vendetta; other editors raised concerns about the author's conflict of interest. Just before that page was nominated, he also created Jennifer Ann's Group, a page about the non-profit group he founded earlier this year, receiving a couple of news items one verifiable, local news item and a proposed law in Texas. It was nominated for WP:CSD a few days ago, and I put my clumsy foot in it, citing that the page was promotional, a conflict of interest concern, and that (perhaps) the page was created to circumvent other page's deletion (conjecture on my part). Again, his response was that this was a personal attack. Impartial voices are needed. TIA. 16:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC) modified: 16:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Marc Bloch#Ethnicity in lead section. Should it be mentioned that Marc Bloch is Jewish in the lead section, or only in the body of the article. -- Stbalbach 15:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Starwood Festival This is a dispute about whether it is appropriate to add internal links (intra-Wikipedia links) to this article to dozens of articles on people and groups who have appeared at this festival. It is also about whether it is appropriate to add external links to the website of the group which organizes the festival to those same dozens of articles. (This is a second placement of this notice, the first in the Religion/Spirituality section. Because these links are being inserted in biographical entries, this also seemed like an appropriate section.) 06:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:List_of_Lebanese_people#Request_for_Comment:_Notable_Lebanese_and_assassinations - This is a dispute encompassing two issues. Specifically on whether "assassinated" individuals should be described as such in a list and generally over the detail of descriptions added to individuals listed. Also the extent to which indivduals with no Wiki articles (yet) and questioned notability should be listed. 00:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • The Nadine Gordimer article has been the subject of an edit/revert war regarding one paragraph of text. The controversial text is a reference to a recent criminal assault on Gordimer, which includes the race of the perpetrators and a quote stating that it is "ironic" that Gordimer was attacked by 3 black men, given Gordimer's anti-apartheid position. Summary and comment history at Talk:Nadine Gordimer. Two users have asked for any neutral non-racist justification for the perpetrators' race and "ironic" comment to be included; the IP-address user has asserted that Wikipedia policy and the other two users are pushing an anti-white POV. 22:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Continual edits of Homi Bhabha with reference to Prose Style. User's starting point is that references to Bhabha's prose style are 'insulting' to him, and seemingly with this in mind, has continually removed sourced text and reverted edits. Trying to find a reasoned consensus with the user on Talk:Homi Bhabha has proved difficult (in unrelated incidents, the user has been given previous warnings about their editing and asked to refrain from insulting others). After providing explanations to the user about the sourced content, these have been disregarded and the user has just deleted the parts of the text they don't like. Can anyone help resolve this situation? 18:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Marshall M. Parks - Should a list containing 42 surgeons trained by Parks be included in the article? 21:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The article Rudy Franchi (Talk:Rudy Franchi) was written by the subject of the article. Any way the article can be salvaged without going to AfD for COI/POV? -- NYArtsnWords 21:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  • An anon user has persisted in changing the birth name in the Sid James article (see Talk:Sid James#Real-Name, claiming to be his grandson and citing only sight of the birth certificate. I have reverted, citing four external sites, but looking back at the history of the article both birth names have been listed in the past. Can anyone resolve the dispute? I'm fed up reverting, saying that the anon user has provided no evidence. Stephenb (Talk) 14:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The Paul McKenna (hypnotist) biography. Under the "controversy" heading, I've added a direct (referenced) quotation from a published court ruling which highlights an important criticism of the subject's publications. However, another user keeps removing the quotation. I've restored it a couple of times, removing any comments, to just let it speak for itself. Is there any way of preventing removal of material like this, which seems intended to doctor the article by removing criticism? I would have thought that the quotation itself was justified and unconvtroversial, in terms of its inclusion, because it is simply a quote taken directly from a published legal document. Is it inappropriate for inclusion? 172.188.48.211 11:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
  • See Talk:Gregg Berhalter for an escalating conflict regarding use of a quote regarding the US Soccer team at the 2006 World Cup. 04:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • See: Talk:Wang Wei (pilot). The question is, should there be mention of the joke about his name sounding like "Wrong Way"? 11:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Tittell Brune I have used a see also link which goes from the particular to the general i.e. a bio article on Tittell Brune with a link to "Actor" and "Celebrity". The dispute is that I'm not allowed to do this by WP. I maintain that Wikipedia has some of the qualities of a scholarly encyclopedia, see What is a Scholarly Encyclopedia? (for Art, or any Subject). Please give guidance. 17:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:William G. Tifft Whether some additional information and a quote from a third party source, are suitable to add to this biography of an astronomer. 17:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Mwai Kibaki, Talk:Mwai Kibaki I would like comment about including refernced information about Kibaki's second wife that keeps being removed by someone who objects. It is neutrally reported and referenced, imo. What's yours? Thanks. 16:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:O.J. Simpson#'Death_of_his_ex_wife'_section Disagrement over the use of the term "murder of." Needs input from third party with a NPV. 22:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Barbara Schwarz - Barbara Schwarz is the subject of her own article, against her wishes, and is also featured in the article on Mark Rathbun. On the talk page of her article one of the regular editors there wrote to me: If you are genuinely "someone [who] cares about her", then recommending a course of psychotherapy by a qualified and licensed practitioner would appear to be a more practical extention of this sentiment than quibbling over words in an article you say "has almost no importance." If this is true do you think that a person in need of psychiatric care should be the subject of a Wikipedia article? Thanks. Steve Dufour 17:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:John_Howard#Request_for_Comment:_Failure_to_enlist - Dispute over whether something that has not occurred should be included in the biography and whether there should be reference to a reliable source for the event not having occurred. 12:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Joan of Arc bibliography#RFC - Disagreement over whether Daniel Hobbins' book should be included in the bibliography. Hobbins is an academic historian, his book is published by Harvard University Press, and has received favorable reviews. One editor questions whether the press and the reviews are reliable, and feels that Hobbins' work is "crackpot" and "fringe". 20:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Mark Rathbun - He was a top official in the Church of Scientology. Now it seems he has become a "non-person". I think he is notable enough. However about half of his article is taken up by someone's conspiracy theories about him.
  • Talk:Mustafa Kemal Ataturk - advice needed on including a section with arguments for and against his involvement in genocide. As of now, the article has virtually no criticism, which has been noted by many users, and the section I added is balanced and sourced, but is continually getting removed. Am I crazy? --21:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Talk:Rani_Mukerji#Mukerji_Mukherjee.3F Advice needed on discussion on moving article to a correct name for Wikipedia due to incorrect name. 19:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)