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We should move this to Renault F1. Renault sport is the engine division but has also a rich history (Le Mans, Rallyes etc...).

Agreed. --Pc13 16:58, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Renault logo on the page is outdated.82.127.133.240 19:18, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Both the above issues are no longer relevant Mark 20:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Team partners?

Is this section really relevant? I don't think any of the other F1 constructors have a list of their sponsors on Wikipedia. \•/ doctorvee » Talk 22:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

The only reason I added it was to explain what these companies do - from watching Grands Prix I was curious what many of the sponsors did. For example I had never heard of Hanjin before I saw it prominently displayed on the Renault. The section is just a way of explaining this and anyone who are similarly curious. If you think it borders on advertisement I won't object to its removal. If however you feel its worthwhile for the reason I've offered, I will be happy to add similar info. to other constructor pages. Mark83 11:24, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I think mentioning Sponsors/Team Partners with regards to Formula 1 is very relevant, and is not a form of advertising. For instance, what effect are the new EU regulations going to have on Tobacco Sponsorship of Formula 1? From what I understand it at the moment, there are 3 teams heavily sponsored by Tobacco Companies. Lucky Strike Honda F1, Ferrari Marlboro & Mild Seven Renault. The phasing out of Tobacco Sponsorship has had a big effect on Formula 1 over the years and might still have some effect over the next couple of years. I understand 2006 is the final year in which Lucky Strike will be involved, but that Marlboro has extended its sponsorship of Ferrari until 2011, but what about Mild Seven with regards to Renault? I think its a very relevant point to make and if Mild Seven is pulling out after 2006 that could have a material effect on whether Renault continues in Formula 1. Losing its best driver and its Main Title Sponsor at the same time might seem an opportune time to put the team on the block?

[edit] Secondary team partners

[edit] 90's Engine

Weren't the engines they made in the 90's actually made by a company in England. Can anyone remember who they were? josh (talk) 18:00, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Definitely not - Renault Sport at Viry-Chatillon. Another French company, Mecachrome, built parts, and then whole engines for a while - to support the secondary teams and then to fill the gap when Renault was out of the sport. I think the development work was still done by Renault Sport, though. You may be thinking of Supertec, which as I understand it distributed the engines and may have been a UK company. See the grandprix.com entries for Supertec and Mecachrome. Complicated situation! 4u1e

[edit] Team principal

Who made Benito Mussolini as the team principal of Renault F1?It's Flavio Briatore.

[edit] Ghosn declaration

From the article : "'We are not in Formula One out of habit or tradition. We're here to show our talent and that we can do it properly... Formula One is a cost if you don't get the results. Formula One is an investment if you do have them and know how to exploit them.'

In short he will continue Renault's investment in F1 as long as the team is successful and can use the resulting publicity for wider commercial gain. Conversely if the team is unsuccessful in future it can be expected that Ghosn will withdraw resources from the sport."

Very partial and non-NPOV interpretation IMO. It seems to me that it's more balanced.... Ericd 22:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

First I'd like to declare an interest, I added that section. Second, I don't see your point. The quote is accurate and there is nothing wrong with the summary — if they continue to compete at the top level of the sport and can use it to sell more cars they will do so. If performance falls to the point where the team is not an advertising asset they will sell it. What is your objection? That I've pointed out the commercial reality or that you think I'm being cynical? Mark83 23:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed section

Renault F1 Blog In its Centenary year, Renault F1, the 2005 Double World Championship winning team has developed a weblog, blog, for their fans to follow them throughout the 2006 F1 season. Following the typically expected blog layout it combines text, images, and links to other F1 blogs, web pages, and other media related to its topic. At the start of the Formula 1 season Renault F1 decided that they would bring Formula 1 a little closer to the fans. Monday 30th January 2006 saw the launch of the Renault F1 weblog or blog (cited as the RenaultF1.com blog in one of the first three posts on its launch day). Initially the first time any Formula 1 team has attempted such a project, Renault’s main rivals Ferrari quickly jumped on the bandwagon and started their own as well around March 10th.

The Renault F1 blog is written by a character known as RF1 Paddock Pass. This is deliberately done as the blog is meant to be representative of the team, so it does not serve to identify one team member as being solely responsible for writing the blog hence the use of the pseudonym RF1 Paddock Pass.

Why do a Formula 1 Blog The Renault F1 team decided that in 2006 they wanted “to tell the story of a season with a race-winning F1 team”. By doing so they invite their fans or anyone who finds their blog board to interact with them and ask questions that they would not normally be able to ask. It means fans get to interact on a daily basis with other Renault F1 fans and more importantly the team.

To gain access to the Renault F1 blog board fans either require an e-membership (which involves registering your name and e-mail address) or club membership. Entries are made every race weekend, on testing days, and any other special times (the Laureus team award win in May 2006 or Goodwood Festival of Speed in July 2006) or if there is anything the team want to share or invite contributions from the fans such as birthday wishes for Fernando.

Development of the Blog The Renault F1 blog is a work in progress developing throughout the 2006 season, the latest development taking place on the 30th August. The Renault F1 blog is now bilingual, having added the facility for fans to blog in French. Fans have the choice of selecting which board they want using the links on the page and the two boards’ mirror each other in blog content.

Furthermore, as the Renault F1 team are keen to develop this project further, the Renault F1 bloggers have been asked for their thoughts on how they want to see the blog develop. Asking them to post their suggestions on the blog. Its been confirmed, this August, that the team is discussing further developments of how to improve the blog and that they will be talking to the fans this winter. The Renault F1 blog has been a success so far and will be returning for the 2007 Formula 1 season.

Other Renault F1 blogs Also running alongside the main Renault F1 blog there are additional blogs by test driver, Heikki Kovalainen and the four drivers who are in the Renault Driver Development programme, Lucas di Grassi, Romain Grosjean, Ben Hanley and José María López.

Reads like an advert? Mark83 13:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks mark.. it would have been nice if you consulted me first before removing it.. I'd actually checked with the team first that is was okay before I put it up. Its not meant as an advert. Its just to let people know what the team is actually doing. considering the only other team in the paddock that is doing this as well is Ferrari, Renault and Ferrari are leading the field. now if you don't mind restoring it!!! I'm a little annoyed as that was my first entry on wikki and i feel like my efforts just been trashed.. Cheers Renault_fraggle 10:30, 7 September 2006

[edit] ING sponsors R1

Press release: [1]

I think it's a little early to change the name to ING Renault F1 Team now, but it will become the official name at the beginning of the 2007 Championship. Please change accordingly at that time. 145.221.24.8 13:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC) (=nl:Gebruiker:IIVQ, and I work for ING.)

Also discussed on WP:F1 talk page. Concensus was not to change it - article names should be the one readers 'expect' to find (i.e. most widely used and simplest) and we don't want to change the article name every time the team's main sponsor changes. It would also look rather odd for historical results. --4u1e 00:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unclear about history

This article is not very clear about the history of Renault F1. Before the current Renault F1 was formed, there were two predecessors: the Formula 1 division of Renault Sport (up to 1997) and Bennetton (and Toleman before that). Those two are completely unrelated, but the article fails to make a clear distinction (look at the way the number of championships is counted, for instance). I think some parts need to be rewritten to make the distinction clearer. 217.149.210.16 17:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes and no. If you are trying to say this should only be about Renault since 2000 with a short background of the Benetton/Toleman team then you're probably right. However at present the article is about Renault in F1 (all periods) with a clear distinction between Renault in the 1970s and 1980s and Renault's purchase of Benetton. Is that such a bad thing? I would welcome some more opinions. Mark83 17:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I think the current structure is OK - although I'm probably more familiar with its history than the average reader. The recent deletion of the Toleman and Benetton championships and win/point totals is probably beneficial for clarity. Your alternative suggestion would mean creating another article (or would this be Renault Sport?) for the 1970s/80s incarnation. 4u1e
At the risk of contradicting myself, I'm starting to think having 70's & 80's and Renault as engine supplier would be better at the appropriate article (I think Renault Sport) with a "main article" link here. I'm thinking this article should only deal with the Toleman/Benetton/Renault lineage in detail?? Mark83 16:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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