Talk:Reggie Ball

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[edit] Vandalism

Hopefully, Reggie will make it through his first game before the next vandal arrives. —comment added by Excaliburhorn(t/c)

I am assuming you can't really put anything in Reggie's bio that wouldn't constitute vandalism. —comment added by 64.207.61.98(t/c)
It's okay to state facts; for example, the fact that he lost to UGA all four years of his career is a fact and can be backed up with a citation, statistics, etc. However, the statement that "People don't like him" is difficult to prove, and thus is a bit on the vandalism side. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion/NPOV

I appreciate the additions to the article, but if we can't do so without violating WP:NPOV, then we shouldn't do so at all. It is true that Reggie is criticized, but I'm not sure it deserves an entire section, especially considering his progress so far. Perhaps a more logical sectioning would be based on time (High School, College) rather than the odd (General, Crit, vs UGA) setup we have now. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 22:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I updated the to do list with those things. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I think that Reggie' bio should have key career stats but I don't think he should be defined by his losses. He is one of the winningest GT QB's of all time and should not be remembered for his failures but rather GT's success on the field during his tenure (beating highly ranked opponents on the road, etc.).
Joe Ham, arguably one of the greatest GT QBs, even failed to take us to the BCS. Everyone expected a lot out of Reggie but sometimes they fail to realize how much better Reggie did than other QBs in peer universities. So goes life. -Excaliburhorn
Sounds fair to me. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 22:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Reggie's stats don't begin to compare with Joe Hamilton's. Joe's stats don't include bowl game (NCAA rules at the time) and are still better than Reggie's, even though Reggie played a lot more games. Also Hamilton had some good WRs, but never one as talented as Calvin Johnson, and he never had a defense as good as Reggie did either. Reggie's Ball legacy will not be a good one, if you are trying to portray it as such you are not accurately portraying Reggie Ball or his career. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.207.61.98 (talk • contribs).

[edit] UGA Career

Can someone explain to me why the stat lines from Reggie Ball's rivalry with UGA get repeatedly removed? I understand and agree when some of the editorial remarks are removed that people add to those stat lines, but I do not agree with just deleting stats in GT's most important rivalry. Rather than delete, if you think it portrays Reggie in too negative of a light, why not add a section on his positive accomplishments in big games? Instead of just deleting facts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.39.0.39 (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

This whole article should be removed, the people who are in charge of it know nothing of football. You can't talk about Reggie Ball and not mention the negatives of his career, its ridiculous and ignorant to even try and do so. -kres —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.207.61.98 (talk • contribs).

Look guys, Reggie is still a student athlete at Georgia Tech and deserves such treatment. If you want to criticize his efforts, then go to a forum or call a sports talk show. For now, only facts, not opinions, about Reggie Ball should be included. This excludes slanted statements such as, "Reggie Ball failed as a GT quarterback." or "Reggie isn't as good as Joe and Shawn Jones." Reggie did what he could for GT and he should be appreciated not belittled like he is so often by fans of GT.
Citing inconsistencies as facts or statements about his "poor play" are non-encyclopedic. All college QB's are inconsistent and if they aren't, their teams win the national title and they win the Heisman. Let's be serious and just leave the article alone. Basic stats and bio are fine for now. - Excaliburhorn

This site features several articles that contain "public opinion" or"criticism" sections as long as it is stated as such. Also the fact the lost to UGA 4 times is not non-encyclopedic. Also while stating facts, it should be mentioned that Reggie's career stats contain bowl stats, while Hamilton's and Jones' do not. Reggie Ball made a choice to play big time college football, no one forced him. To accurately portray his career you have to at least mention the negatives of his career, otherwise the article defeats its own purpose... giving someone who knows nothing of Reggie Ball a look into who he was and what he did. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.207.61.98 (talk • contribs).

Type out exactly what you're going to put here and let's see if we can come up with a compromise. I understand stating that he lost to UGA all 4 times but comparing him to other QB's on a skill scale is unfair and not very subjective. I still think you just want to down Reggie Ball just for the sake of denegrating him rather than actually trying to inform people of his career. Look at Joe Hamilton, A.J. Suggs, or Eddie McAshan for examples of how we've made GT athletes wikipages. Note that there is no mention of Joe never being able to beat FSU or Eddie's relatively poor coverage reading abilities. - Excaliburhorn
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