Talk:Reading and Leeds Festivals

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"(now controlled by the entertainment conglomerate Clearchannel)" which keeps apearing next to Mean Fiddlers name Is untrue. MF are now owned by CC and Gaiety Investments Limited (another Irish live music promotion company (they have intersts in the "carling acadamy" chains and a few festivals) 50.1%CC and 49.9% by Gaiety (well technicly its owned by a joint venture company who is owned by them in those ratios). As for Controll MF is still run as an independent company (with Melvin Benn at the head) and CC have very little say over what it dose. Talkshowbob

Note: I've done the missing 90's Main Stage line-ups. If you have any info on the Main Stage line-up for 1990, please email me at regular_john1337@hotmail.co.uk. Cheers.

Could anyone put the line-ups between 1992 and 1998? The huge gap looks horrible.

We need to find them. Secretlondon 17:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

If anyone could expand upon the history of Leeds festival that would be great.It looks too sparse and there must be more to say about the festival than whats there.

Have completed a full rewrite (though forgot to sign in); probably a few typos that I can't be bothered checking but have changed the format of the article to provide a chronological history of the changing format and musical influences. Also expanded where possible Robdurbar 09:41, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Somneone's added the mainstage bill for 2005. I like the table format and would love to include it for previous years. However do we think that the opening act on the main stage is more of a headliner than the closing acts on the other stages? I see the stages as Radio 1/NME as the second stage, Dance/Lock Up as third and Carling as 4th. I'd suggest that the headliners on at least the first two are as interesting as the early acts on the main stage. Secret london 16:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Definately, this would be useful. The top three or four bands on the R1/NME are usually far more important to the festival than the bands lower on the main stage; for some idea, Graham Coxon was second on the Radio 1 stage last year, and appears 6th on the mainstage this year, with no real change in his status in the interim. However, I would suggest that a seperate 'R and L Festivals line-ups' page be created if this list is exteneded into the past and onto different stages Robdurbar 17:37, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I think it would be great to go back as far as we could. However it is possible that they could get put on votes for deletion.. How do we decide where to draw the line? I don't think we can add the entire bill - top 3 on radio 1, top 2 on dance/lockup, headliners on carling? Secret london 19:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Yep, sounds reasonable - will do some research and create the page myself later today if there are no volunteers Robdurbar 08:59, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, have created Reading and Leeds Festivals line-ups. It is currently far from completion, with only the data from the current year's main stage there. I will finish it by the end of the week, but if any one wants to contribute before that, feel free. Robdurbar 09:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

That was me who added the mainstage bill. Personally I wouldn't see a problem adding the entire bill but not going to argue about it. One thing I discovered whilst at the festival is that they plagiarised our list of headliners from 1999-2004, down to the somewhat odd ordering and selection. Morwen - Talk 09:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes we were clearly used as a source for the official programme. Secret london 23:03, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Ah you weren't logged in. I wouldn't see a problem with adding the entire bill either but I imagined that VfD would see it as festivalcruft or something.. I wonder if we need a wikiproject festivals. Most festival articles are pretty poor and it would be good if we could draw out what the differences between them are - as well as having a standard format. Secret london 14:45, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Maybe the entire bill for the most recent addition could appear here. In Feb/March, when new line up begins to be revealed, this would replace the previous version. Robdurbar 11:19, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I think having the entire bill when announced (*no rumours*!) would be great. I've been thinking what a great Wikibook this would make - far better than the official programme - with combined attendence of 120,000+ we could sell a few hundred at least ;) Secret london 22:59, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Lol, although the no rumors might prove contentious: official annoucements only, or maybe agreed sources such as NME.com? Robdurbar 23:02, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

They stole our prose too! Morwen - Talk 12:55, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Our sentence:

"Though the 1999 Leeds Festival ran a day behind the Reading leg, a system where the line up of Reading play Leeds the following day, with the bands from Leeds' opening day playing the final day in Reading, soon developed."

Their sentence:

"At the beginning, the Leeds Festival ran a day behind Reading, but a system established itself where the Reading bands play Leeds the following day, and the Leeds' opening bands playing the final day in Reading, soon developed."

Morwen - Talk 18:37, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I have programmes and listing of past festivals going back years, so i'll stick those up on the line up section in due course.

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Great. We've got as far back as 1999 and ground to a halt! Secret london 12:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

WHY DOES IT SAY THAT rEADING STARTED IN 1971 AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE BUT THE HEADLINING LIST GOES BACK AS FAR 1961? iF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER PLEASE CHANGE ITManiacgeorge 18:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

1 Nirvana
2 Naming
3 Rage
4 Lack of Citation
5 Muse
6 2007 Rumors
7 Plagiarism

[edit] Nirvana

Reverted the addition of them to the 1991 headliners. They played, yes, but they certainly didn't headline - Nevermind had yet to be released and they weren't the famous band they would be a year later. Morwen - Talk 15:47, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

Apart from historical reasons why is the festival still called Reading and Leeds festical? shouldn;t it be Leeds/Reading as this is alphabetically correct?

I think you just answered it - historically.Old habits die hard - Bit of a geeky point don't you think?

[edit] Rage

Rage Against The Machine played mainstage in 2000 (photos avialable of them doing so are on their site) but i'm not sure whether or not they 2nd slotted / headlined. Any ideas? (Yeah Rage Against the Machine Headlined 1996 and were 4th from last in 2000 (Rage Against The Machine, Slipknot, Placebo, Stereophonics).(Chazz). Cheers. Does someone who knows about such things want to chnage the 96 headliners to include rage?

[edit] Lack of Citation

I've added a lack of citation header as a lot of the article is unqualified - I realise that a large part of this is due to recent edits refering to the 2006 weekend, but a lot of the statements such as "The same year in 2006, Muse headlined the second day of Reading. Frontman Matt Bellamy later said it was the best gig they had ever played." "Most of the throwing was commited by Slayer fans who felt an "emo" band shouldnt be playing after the heavy metal band. Though it should be noted that the majority of the crowd were supporters of the My Chemical Romance." If you know of sources for the info, please do cite them! Firetrap (talk • contribs) 10:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muse

On BBC THREE after their show was shown on the highlighs package, Matt Bellamy said in an interview it was the best show they ever played :). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.109.221.169 (talk • contribs) .