Talk:Rated-RKO

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This article was nominated for deletion on November 16, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

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I recommend just changing the name of the page to Orton and Edge or Randy Orton and Edge. Though I do agree, the group doesn't have much real signifigance yet. KE

I'd rather have it be "Rated-R.K.O." myself...

I second the Rated RKO page. Dustinwayne

I don't really think they should have an article until:

• a)They adopt a tag team finisher
• b)They are offinially annouced as Rated RKO by the ring announcer

PS:I put the article for deletion as these guys arnt really notable yet.

You forget that WWE.com oficially recognized them as a stable.

Keep - The Survivor Series page on WWE.com officialy labels the team as Rated RKO, therefore, the team name is official. Also, they have won the WWE World Tag Team Championship so they HAVE done something notable. Other than Poetry in Motion, did the Hardy Boyz have a "Tag Team Finisher"? Keep this, because people have accepted this.John cena123 03:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes the Hardy's did. It was called the Event Omega.

They are the current World Tag Team Champions and as mentioned above it is official on the Survivor Series page that they are called Rated RKO. Also 'Edge & Randy Orton' redirects to the Rated-RKO page anyway.

• Hey do you guys think you can sign your posts? John cena123 20:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

1. I agree with you cena,rated rko are a proper stable,and the combonation of a spear and rko are a type of finisher

anyone notice that both Orton and Edges combined theme semmed to sound a bit different? maybe we should note it.

Contents 1 Lita 2 WWE Triple Crown 3 Better picture 4 Page Move 5 f***

[edit] Lita

Should Lita even be on here? Rated RKO is more a stable with an active woman wrestler as a valet than it is a stable. Edge & Orton do plenty without her.«»bd(^talk _stalk) 07:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Lita should be on here, because she is their valet. She is apart of the stable. BTW, should Lita's Moonsault and Edge's Edgecution be added to the finishers? When Lita retires, I'm guessing we will either briefly mention that she was pnce their valet or removed everything about her altogether.Levodevo 05:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

No. There is a big difference between a tag team with a manager (who just happens to wrestle), and a stable. ^---SilentRAGE! 04:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay I got a couple of problems on this article with Lita. At Cyber Sunday she won the Woman's Championship by her self with out any help from either Edge or Orton. So that belt shouldn't even be added. You have mentioned this in one of the paragraphs and entered the belt as part of Rated-RKO!. This is clearly wrong. I am removing all that stuff for this reason. Govvy 01:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

At SummerSlam 2004 Randy Orton became the youngest world champion in WWE history by defeating Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Title by himself without any help from Triple H, Ric Flair, or Batista. He even celebrated by himself the very next night! Yet you don't see anyone saying he wasn't in Evolution when he won the title, or that it shouldn't be noted as part of Evolution! And that tournament where she won the Women's Title in the first place. Sure, it was pre-Rated-RKO, but didn't Edge help her out in a match in that tournament? At least as far as Edge is concerned, the union was more significant than "she's his valet who happens to wrestle". 172.150.233.20 06:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Again there is difference, Rated-RKO is the tag team of Edge and Orton. Lita was the valet of only Edge, now retired. I haven't looked at Evolution but that's an alliance which is different to a tag-team. There is still the official problem here, Lita was never considered part of Rated-RKO by the WWE. Putting down the Woman's championship down are an Rated-RKO win is wrong, because that belt in in the wrong category. There for, I am still correct. Govvy 13:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WWE Triple Crown

Randy Orton is not a WWE triple crown champion edge is —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supermike (talk • contribs).

Yes, Randy is in fact a Triple Crown Champion because he won a world championship (the World Heavyweight Championship), a secondary championship (Intercontinental Championship) and the World Tag Team Championship.

So did you just completely forget about Orton's 8 month plus reign as IC champion? 131.230.184.181 23:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe that this conversation is over seeing as the thing in question has been established. -- THL^CCD 23:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Randy Orton is most definitely a triple crown champion. ohhh most definitely. Lonelyboy 00:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course Orton is, Triple Crown = World/WWE Title, IC/US Title and World/WWE Tag Titles. Both men fill the quallifications. (Edge holds all accept the World Title by the way)

[edit] Better picture

A better picture is required, with both of them sharing an equal amount of the frame.

Either that or one with Edge in front.--74.114.105.193 02:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page Move

I moved this page from Rated RKO to Rated-RKO because the team is listed as such all over wwe.com. Cheers, -- THLR^CCD 04:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

That's what I thought, but the screen graphics don't use a hyphen. Tim Long 23:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

That bothers me; however, since I've already moved the page and fixed all of the redirects, let’s leave it here for the time being. If the website changes, I'll put everything back. Cheers, -- THLR^CCD 00:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Lawler also mistakenly refers to them as Team Rated RKO. I would tend to go with the screen graphics over the website. We can wait, though. Tim Long 01:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Obviously the different parts of the WWE don't talk to each other much. Seeing as wwe.com is what we cite more than anything else, I would rather go with them website. Like I said, if the website changes I'll put everything back. Cheers, -- THLR^CCD 02:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Umm, in all the page moving, did anybody happen to catch where the AfD discussion ended up? I need to reference it, and it seems to have been lost in the shuffle. --RoninBK_ETC 20:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

It's here.«»bd(^talk _stalk) 20:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] f***

Why is this up for deletion?--989 RVD 00:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) -- THLR 01:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I was out of line. If the person who nominated this page comes along, I apologize. I disagree with your nomination, but I shouldn't have said that. I removed it myself. -- THLR 04:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Some idiot did it to justify deleting Christian and Tyson Tomko when Rated-RKO was brought up as a counter-point to that. 172.150.233.20 06:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I see. I've made a point of mentioning that Rated-RKO will be kept in that discussion in order to make that attempt pointless. Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Cheers, -- THLR 07:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it's thought Rated-RKO hasn't been around long enough to have its own page? Just a guess here. Anakinjmt 19:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps, but articles are usually not put up on AFD less then a month after a clear keep conseusus unless there is evidence of some type of sock or meat puppetry and in those cases there is usually a DRV to challenge the original result. There is no evidence of anything like thaty anything like that has happened here. --70.48.174.80 20:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

That was the idea; however, countless wrestling afds in the past have shown that the overall consensus is that holding a title is equal to notability, with the exception of some, I forget the word for it, but it was what Edge kept saying he wouldn't be in his first WWE Title reign. -- THLR 20:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, he said he wouldn't be a transitional champion, but I doubt that's what you mean. Looking at the size of the article so far, it's a fairly decent length. Sure, you could put this info in Orton's and Edge's pages, but you'd be putting basically the same stuff in both pages. I think it's better this way, but it's not like the Hardys page, so we'll see how this plays out. Anakinjmt 00:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Transitional champion is what I meant. Holding a title is equal to notability with the exception of some transitional champions. Roddy Piper and Ric Flair's tag title reign was no doubt transitional, so the team lacks the notability of those who have had full title reigns. -- THLR 00:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but realize that you'd have to do this for several other teams that have won the World Tag Team Championship or the WWE Tag Team Championship. Examples that come to mind are Edge and Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero and Tajiri, Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle, Paul London and Brian Kendrick, etc. I realize those are all teams that won the WWE Tag Team Championships, and not the World Tag Team, but I think you get the idea. You could argue some of those were tranisitional, but you can't say that about London and Kendrick, and last time I checked there isn't a seperate page for the team of London and Kendrick. I'm not arguing for or against deletion at the moment, just pointing out some facts. Anakinjmt 02:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Paul London and Brian Kendrick, -- THLR 02:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, good call. Still leaves some of the other teams in the list I mentioned. And, there isn't one for Charlie Haas and Rico, Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero, or if you prefer an example for the World Tag Team title, Rob Van Dam and Booker T. I doubt you could call them transitional champions. Anakinjmt 03:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I haven't been a wrestling fan long enough to write an article about them; I've only heard of them. I'm more of an anti-vandal guy then an article writer. I think that you should bring this up at the WP:PW talk page. Cheers, -- THLR 04:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I've already put in my two cents at the discussion page for deletion for this article, but maybe I will too. BTW, just curious, I've noticed you end your posts with "Cheers", and I'm just curious as to why. Anakinjmt 04:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It's just a habit I've gotten into. When I first joined I talked to a lot of editors that do this, so I copied them. Now it is just a habit. Cheers, -- THLR 04:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)