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Again, welcome! - UtherSRG 14:40, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Saint Peter

I see that you moved the above to Simon Peter using copy-and-paste. First of all, there's a "proper" way of moving an article (with the "move" tab, to the right of the "edit this page" one), which preserves the history of who has edited the page and so on. Secondly, policy is to locate articles at the most common name for the subject; in this case, that most definitely is Saint Peter, so I've moved the article back.
Hope this helps.
James F. (talk) 16:05, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Human

How about we trade favors? The Human discussion is getting strong, and I think it would help to lay our cards on the talbe so the "secularists" can see just how different is our point of view on just what is a human. But at the same time, I want to be able to get a "generic" (ha ha) religious view. In any case, would you take some time to drop by my user talk page and add your personally believed factual definition of what is a human. I appreciate it. Tom - Talk 14:58, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] What is a Christian?

Rantaro, I am guessing you are LDS. I can't take the time right now to get too involved in the article you asked me to drop in on, but I can occasionally come by if you need a backup. It looks to me like you are invested quite heavily in that article, and that is good. I hope you stick with it until it comes to a sataisfactory resolution. I am pretty sure the article should really not exist. For the good of all, it should be incorporated into the Jesus article. But here is what you can do that I am certain will help. Go to wp:npov and read and internalize the full document and the tutorial that is referenced at the top. Learn those two docs well and you will be the better off for it both at Wikipedia and in life. Then you will be able to speak authoritatively about the appropriate direction for that article. Since NPOV is absolute and non-negotiable at Wikipedia, there is no single thing you can do to increase your effectiveness better than to read and internalize those two documents, then apply them in long struggles. I hope to hear from you again. Thanks for shepherding that article, and have a great day today! Tom - Talk 15:23, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What is NPOV? Yes, what you mentioned is POV. But nearly everything we write about is POV. The trick is to make our articles NPOV. Be sure you read those docs in full. I promise it will give you great power in resolving the article and future WP endeavors. Tom - Talk 21:50, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] User Page

Hey dude, you need a personal info page! George_m

[edit] Re: Mediation request

Hi Rantaro -- I saw your request for mediation, but I think that you are looking for a form of arbitration, and the Mediation Committee doesn't operate in the way you've asked. I believe that I've seen a request for comment on this article, so mediation could be the next step, but we need to have a request that deals with a conflict between editors, rather than issuing an order about what the editors should do.

Please see Wikipedia:What is mediation?, Wikipedia:Mediation, and Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. I will remove the request for now, but please feel free to add a request that fits the guidelines we have to follow.

Thanks, BCorr, Chair of the Mediation Committee, 12:42, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hi, Rantaro. I believe you can proceed without mediation by long, hard work on the talk page, and I will try to participate. I appreciate your participation and persistence in this great effort, particularly in the English Wikipedia. I hope you can get K.M. and any other JWs you can find to participate. We will do best if you can find more. Why don't you take these two steps, then we can work together toward something great:

  1. Look around for some more JW editors who can help us explore a solution to this subject
  2. Study up on the WP:NPOV article

Tom - Talk 19:20, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of redirect

Why do you keep on reverting the redirect page on Jesus (Christ)? The issue has been discussed on the talk page. Please see here. Thanks. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 16:18, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

STOP MOVING PAGES NOW. If you do not stop moving the Jesus page, I will block you. This is a highly important page and you are screwing up the page histories. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 16:24, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Stop immediately

Please stop immediately. If you continue to create such a mess with Jesus, and all those other redirects, I will have no choice but to block you. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 16:24, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Seconded. Stop now. Andre (talk) 16:27, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

In case you didn't get it, that was your final warning. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 16:28, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus

Unfortunately, yours is a minority opinion. For example, I'm not a Christian, I'm an atheist. However, I believe that this Jesus is the primary Jesus. Regardless, we don't have articles on the other Jesu. If we ever get them, you can argue your point further, though I doubt you'll convince anyone. Andre (talk) 16:41, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation page

There is now a disambiguation page located at Jesus (disambiguation). Are you satisfied with the changes? If so, I'll unprotect it as soon as you respond. Thanks. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 17:53, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Welcome

It's no trouble; if you will look at the edit history of the template you will see that you're very far from the first person to make that mistake. —No-One Jones (m) 19:09, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. Rantaro 01:08, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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