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Contents 1 Unblocking User:166.121.37.8 2 Wikipedia policies / references (NLP Workshop) 3 Thanks for reprimanding me 4 Help 5 My RfA 6 For the Signpost 7 Wikipedia:List of templates by usage 8 Urgent request 9 little bird, little bird.... 10 NLP 11 Thanks 12 Stop! hammertime 13 I'm back 14 I know it's a little early... 15 Esperanza 16 Happy birthday, Ral315! 17 News from the developers 18 Signpost: recent editions? 19 Save the numbers 20 News and notes 21 Huh? 22 Arbitration Update 23 Open Proxy or not 24 User:SPUI 25 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1 26 My RfA 27 Deletion of "Normal deletion processes do not apply to policy violations" 28 Dem Crazy Republicans 29 My RfA 30 Thank you 31 Wikipedia_talk:Censorship 32 Signpost RSS 33 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2 34 Date links 35 Wikimania Signpost series? 36 Soft sockpuppetry part deux 37 Think again 38 Last-minute note

[edit] Unblocking User:166.121.37.8

You blocked this IP for 6 weeks. Upon request by User:Tdxiang, who was unable to edit because of the block, I unblocked it. I'll watch the talk page for warnings, and I encourage you to do the same. Darn that collateral damage :) Ral315 (talk) 05:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of this. Mandated registration and user whitelisting before editing from a known IP cache (used heavily for vandalism) is starting to become pretty high on my list of priorities for Wikipedia's success in the long term. Best regards, Hall Monitor 18:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia policies / references (NLP Workshop)

We have been unable to reach agreement on recent discussion on the topic concerning WP:Verfiability, Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_sources and NPOV#Undue_Weight. I've used Sinclair&Bray / Crabtree as examples of references that can be removed under these policies - could be please comment on this. Personally I'd like to review all references, and remove ANY sources that do not pass wikipedia policies, this in turn will help us lift the quality of the sources. I'd also like to group the various sources into different viewpoints including applicatons of NLP (management, education and learning, etc.) and research such as experimental psychology, and criticism (NLP as a movement, lack of research, experimental psychology, etc.). These need to get separate because each has a different criteria for argumentation and evidence. --Comaze 23:42, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for reprimanding me

This probably sounds weird, but thanks for reprimanding me. I apologize for attacking Monicasdude. By the way, how did you find out I edited that guy's profile? NIRVANA2764 02:34, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Hi, would there be any that you can tell us the if formatting is correct on the following link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Aucaman? I`d appreciate it.Zmmz 18:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

[edit] For the Signpost

How does submission work? When I write my blurbs, where do I send them? Do I just post them on that subpage? Thanks! --Avery W. Krouse 20:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, come to think of it, I just signed on to a pseudo-WikiProject that is going to take up more time than I thought. I doubt I'll be able to do the Signpost writing at this time. Sorry! --Avery W. Krouse 20:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:List of templates by usage

I have updated the lists not using dump from 20.02.2006 _→AzaToth 20:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent request

This is a bit unusual, but can I request that you note Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ta bu shi da yu 2 and Wikipedia:Fair use criteria/Amendment in a Signpost article? I'm trying to get maximum exposure for a policy proposal to delete fair use images deleted after 24 hours if no fair use criteria applies. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] little bird, little bird....

...on the cinammon tree -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 05:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC) ...would you bring me word of one I love? -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 05:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NLP

We need your help as the workshop discussion is getting out of control again. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 16:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop! hammertime

STOP! Hammertime!

Hahah in all seriousness though, your "Please Hammer Don't Vandalize 'Em" statement made me snort coffee through my nose. Thanks for giving me the morning chuckle. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 13:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm back

Hello, Ral! I think I'm ready to come back from my hiatus from the Signpost. Would News and Notes be available for me to do? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:06, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I'll start this week then. Yup, it was nice not to worry about deadlines and such, and focus more time and energy on other business (info-en, some meta business, etc.). I'll also try and chip in with the "non"-usual articles when needed. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I know it's a little early...

... but Happy Birthday!!! I just wanted to be the first to congratulate you on the anniversary of the outcome of your parents "getting it on" roughly 9 months prior to this day. Beware the Ides. Cheers!!! --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 19:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza

Have a very Happy Birthday from me and Esperanza.--Dakota ~ ° 02:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy birthday, Ral315!

Now I know why you're Ral315!315 means 15/3 or March 15! Anyway a very Esperanzially Happy Birthday!--Tdxiang 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk)ContributionsContributions Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 03:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday! Click the cake for a Birthday Suprise!

Happy birthday, Ral! NSLE _(T+C) at 05:51 UTC (2006-03-15)

Hi! Just a note to say Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee. --Ali K 09:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday! haz _(user talk)^e 13:13, 15 March 2006

Happy birthday! - nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 17:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] News from the developers

I've been following the debate at Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost#More_news_regarding_economy_and_hardware and I have a modest proposal (if I may be so bold). How about we wiki-interview Brion in much the same way that we wiki-interviewed Jimbo a few weeks back? I think that a lot of people are interested in what's going on in this area, and the Wikipedia Signpost would be a great forum for presenting the information. GeorgeStepanek\^talk 06:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost: recent editions?

Hi Ral, where do we find the previous editions of the Signpost? - Ta bu shi da yu 14:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Save the numbers

Hi, I'm not sure if you realized this, and I didn't want you to go away with the wrong impression, but the "campaign" to save 3055 was a joke. I thought it was obvious. But then, maybe you were joking too. ;-) Of course it is better to let you know just to be on the safe side. --BostonMA 21:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, sometimes humor doesn't go quite right, especially in text. I guess you can never say something absurd enough that there isn't someone else who might say it in all seriousness. --BostonMA 18:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] News and notes

Just to let you know that on Saturday 18th March Ta bu shi da yu asked his girlfriend to marry him, and she said yes! Don't know if it's worth adding to the Signpost, but it's a pretty significant event in my life :-) Ta bu shi da yu 13:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

I'm confused. :) Ambi 02:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Aha! There's not much to say really. The backlog of CheckUser requests has been growing beyond the ability of any of the current arbitrators, so they turned to the former arbitrators to help out. I was the only one still around who didn't already have it (having quit before CheckUser was developed), so now I do. I'll have to teach myself how to use the thing, but hopefully I'll be able to do a bit of chipping away at the backlog. Ambi 02:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

(cc to Essjay, Ambi) Oops, I'd already mentioned the CheckUsers in News and Notes. Feel free to remove it and write a longer piece, or incorporate anything you have into it. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 03:15, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration Update

The ArbCom closed two cases this week (Boothy443 and Instantnood). Please update the arbitration report to reflect this. In addition, Karmafist is now in MtC - and I'm not sure what the proper wording for this would be, so please check my wording and fix it if necessary. --TML1988 23:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open Proxy or not

Hi, Ral315. I was at WP:AIV and someone was complaining about a vandal whose page said he or she had been blocked as an open proxy, but the vandal had resumed vandalism. I took a look, and saw that an admin had blocked indefinitely as open proxy, but that the block had clashed with a shorter block given by another admin. So I reblocked indefinitely. However, I'm not at all an expert on open proxies, so I'd appreciate if you'd take a look and check that the block really should have been indefinite, and shorten it if necessary. It's 85.195.119.14 (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log). Thanks. AnnH ♫ 08:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:SPUI

Hi, you mentioned at WP:AN/I that if anyone reverted infoboxes on the CA state route articles during the consensus building period that you would block them. User:SPUI has done exactly that at California State Route 19 and California State Route 90. He attempted to disguise it as part of a larger addition to the article and left a notice to that effect at WP:AN/I. However he's still editing the infobox with full knowledge of your warning.Gateman1997 19:54, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

He's started mass page moves again- see his page move or contrib log. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

	My RfA
	Thank you for supporting/opposing/commenting on my request of adminship, sadly the result was 54/20/7 an thus only 73% support votes, resulting in that the nomination failed. As many of you commenting that I have to few main-space edits, I'll try to better my self on that part. If you have any ideas on what kind of articles I could edit, pleas send me a line. :)	→AzaToth 09:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of "Normal deletion processes do not apply to policy violations"

Hello, Ral315. I'm considering to submit your policy proposal, Wikipedia:Normal deletion processes do not apply to policy violations, for deletion at WP:MfD, for the reasons stated on the talk page. I'd appreciate receiving any comments you might have on this during the next 48 hours. Best regards, Sandstein 17:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

For your information, I have nominated the proposal for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Normal deletion processes do not apply to policy violations. Sandstein 05:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dem Crazy Republicans

Thank you my friend, i'll try to make it closer to eleventy billion years. Oh, and speaking of a cabalist representative, maybe you could start the "Cabalist Democrats"! Worked for the Young Democrats of America... Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 14:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

I've recently been renominated for an RfA, and I think my attitude and use of edit summaries has improved a great deal. Be sure to visit and support/object/comment. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia_talk:Censorship

A watered-down version of the proposed policy against censorship is now open for voting. Will you knidly review the policy and make your opinions known? Thank you very much. Loom91 10:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost RSS

What's happened to it? It hasn't updated for a month! Dan100 (Talk) 11:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I second that. It's a pity the feed doesn't work. The WP Signpost deserves to have a proper RSS feed. Kpjas 06:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Date links

Just wondering, have you read WP:DATE carefully? I've seen you adding back in unnecessary links here and there. I'm letting it slide on Wikipedia Signpost because that's not encyclopedic content, but in mainspace articles it really is a good guideline to follow. Send me a shout if you have questions, Cyde Weys 00:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania Signpost series?

Hi there - I don't know if sj's already talked to you about this, but he and I were talking about starting a series about Wikimania (and other potentially other large meetups, such as the upcoming Hong Kong meetup) in the Signpost -- a la the ArbCom series.

We were thinking one short (2-3 paragraph) article every week or every two weeks until the conference happens in early August. The articles would detail planning (and what we still need volunteers for), feature conference events, themes and key speakers ahead of time, mark reminders of deadlines, and generally raise community awareness of the event and of other meetups. Maybe it could have an acronym that spells out MANIA? ;) Let me know what you think; we could have the first one ready by this Sunday night for the next issue. cheers - Brassratgirl 05:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Also left a note on the tipline.

Hey -- we were thinking right now for starting the series, so as to have time to have a couple introductory articles, make sure people know about the cfp (which is closing April 30) and try and use the series to get more volunteer interest (since we need the volunteers now, rather than later :)). When's the weekly deadline again? Brassratgirl 03:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

sj's working on it; should be ready by this afternoon. Thanks! Brassratgirl 19:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Should be done in 15 min. +sj + 00:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soft sockpuppetry part deux

We spoke back in Nov about the criteria for inclusion as a Soft Sockpuppet in AfD. Since I've done some more editing, I was wondering if I could get your opinion on the edits I've done. I'm interested in producing high-quality edits as much as I can, so I hope you'll give me your thoughts.SteveB 15:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Think again

Ral, by the looks of your user & talk page you're quite involved with W, a respected admin and all that. But I found the message you left on my user talk to be unhelpful, to say the least. You really should stop and give it a good thought before applying the word "troll" to anyone. Jtkiefer's actions were very damaging to me and 100% unjustified. How exactly am I supposed to communicate with him? With kid gloves or as some kind of mini-Jesus? My words to him have been very measured, yet convey the displeasure anyone on the recieving end of his actions would have felt. I'm particularly glad that I didn't get down on the floor with him and trade personal insults/profanities. And along comes some guy I've never been involved with to tell me "Please don't troll other users. ". Your understanding of the situation must be very slight to come out with something like that. The point is: an editor who has been unjustly attacked and banned by a vindictive admin certainly has the right, probably even the responsibility, to stand up for himself. That's what I did, and I did it with pretty much the lowest level of verbal hostility possible. An apology from you will let me know you have the capacity, after some reflection, to judge this sort of dispute correctly. Without an apology, I'll file your name away for voting on any issues that might involve you in the future. JDG 17:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Last-minute note

Hope it's not messing things up to do this so late, but I split the power outage into a separate story at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2006-04-10/Power outage. --Michael Snow 00:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)