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Does someone have a source for the 21 Filipino deaths? The Leavenworth papers on page 69 specifically states that there were NO guerrillas killed

The Book I am read (Ghost Soldiers, By Hampton Sides) also tells of the filipino deaths, who they dont mention and is also the best book on the subject!

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"Many of the POWs resisted because the Rangers' weapons and uniforms looked nothing like those from 1940 and 1941."

This doesn't make any sense - nobody was even deployed into the Philipenes until early 1942, so no Americans could have been captured in 1940 or 1941. I'm deleting the entire line just for accuracy's sake.

--Bri 20:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually I'm replacing this line as this fact appears to hold up but am describing it as "looked nothing like those from several years prior."

--Bri 20:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Just for future reference, whether or not Americans were captured in 1940 or 1941 is beside the point even though it didn't happen. The Philippines was a US colony for nearly half a century before the Japanese invasion. That sentence does make sense. The US military were in the Philippines from 1898 onward with many army bases, airfields and navy port and thus deployment is a moot point when their presence was already there. If you are speaking of the liberation, then that's a different story. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 21:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, excuse me. There wasn't a significant military deployment until early 1942. This is why I said the original sentence doesn't make sense (which it doesn't.) What does 1940 or 1941 have to do with anything? Instead of pointlessly arguing with me over what you yourself described as a mute point, why don't you try contributing to the article? You've got 2000+ edits, why don't you maybe clean up some of the (horribly) amateurish sounding writing? Just a thought... --Bri 15:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

No, you are still very incorrect. You can't have a "significant military deployment" of US troops when they were already there. There were 30,000 US troops there by 1941. As for "What does 1940 or 1941 have to do with anything?" You pointed those years out yourself so they needed to be addressed. Also, I must've missed the part in history when the Pacific Fleet wasn't crippled at Pearl Harbor (with the exception of the carriers) and the US was able to send reinforcements to the Philippines. Bottom line: There was NO US military deployment to the Philippines until the beginning of the liberation by US forces in 1944. One of the main reasons why the country capitulated was because there was no military deployment whatsoever. The USAFFE (United States Army Forces - Far East) was cut off from troops and supplies because of Pearl Harbor and the inability of the navy to get to them. Here's a thought, why don't you read history and stop asserting erroneous information let alone attacking people because someone pointed out incorrect info. Also, why don't you actually a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for civility and Policy for no personal attacks when someone critcizes you because it is you who has deployed" amateurish" behavior. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 15:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

My grandfather was deployed to the Philippines in 1939 and was a prisoner at Cabanatuan II, he did say that the uniforms suprised him, but that all of the men spoke english and were european, so he trusted them. -JWGreen 00:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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