Talk:Radbod, King of the Frisians

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This page needs to be cleared up as to whether Radbod was King, or Duke, and renamed appropriately. I also think the Radbod page should become a disambuguation page between this Radbod, and Saint Radboud. Thoughts? Hiberniantears 21:30, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I found something almost identical to this article here: http://www.masterliness.com/a/Radbod.htm

Anyone have a comment on it?---Mr. Nexx 05:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Source for Radbod quote?

I've seen the quote for Radbod about rather going to Hell than spending eternity in Heaven several places, but without a clear attribution. Does anyone know where this might come from?---Mr. Nexx 05:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I've heard it stated different ways as well, that he; doesn't want to spend eternity in Heaven with a bunch of "meek Christians", "pious Christians" and some other pejorative terms. I'd be interested in knowing the original as well. Of course, not everything from the era of spiritually motivated hear-say can be believed. There are several Christian sources attesting that on his deathbed he called for a bishop to come baptise him but that he died before the bishop could arrive. To me this just sounds like a way that the old Christian scholars could claim that even Radbod believed they were right (so he wouldn't become a Pagan martyr) but at the same time put him in a position of not achieving the same salvation as the rest of them. If he had actually recanted at any point, I'm sure they would have made him more saintly, like their writing of history has done with Widukind the Saxon, or at least not assigned the overtone of eternal damnation to his person. Nagelfar 13:36, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

One source for the quote is the Life of Wulfram, which was written around 800 AD. --Folcwald 19:34, 6 November 2005 (UTC)