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What's the point with the salary conversions? Obviously their salaries have gone up... being high profile players, and with the effect of inflation over the past decade... --Madchester 07:14, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

Can anyone elaborate on the seciton about the move from Quebec. I've always been told it was financial trouble, but I don't understand with the Canadian love of hockey...--68.167.34.42 17:59, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh, well, it wasn't Canada that owned the team, it was Marcel Aubut. (grins) RGTraynor 16:31, September 11, 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] List of Quebec Nordiques players

I have started a List of Quebec Nordiques players. It would be a great help is someone with a little extra time could fill in the missing gaps. I got all of the Quebec players who played in the WHA. I am just missing a few that played in the NHL. Thanks! Masterhatch 12 August 2005

[edit] Recent edits

1) Is the government of Quebec City mounting a credible, acknowledged bid to secure a NHL franchise, or does this remain wishful thinking on the part of fans? If the former, verifiable citations would be useful. If the latter, it's speculation better suited to Nordique-oriented web forums or blogs than an encyclopedia.

2) Please see the Team Pages Format for who merits inclusion in team Hall of Fame listings; Lafleur manifestly does not for the Nords.

3) The home provinces of honoured players are properly given in the entries for those players and are redundant here.

RGTraynor 05:24, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. 'Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Accent on Quebec

This is also an issue in the Expos, and to a lesser extent the Canadiens, articles. The proper English spelling is Quebec (not Québec) and that is the norm in the English-language wikipedia. Using the accent in written English is an affectation, and we don't use Québec for the same reason we don't refer to places like Warszawa, Italia, Praha, etc. in English-language articles, except perhaps to mention the non-English version(s) or official version of the place name. For the same reason, the French-language Wikipedia uses place names like Terre-Neuve and Angleterre, etc., not Newfoundland and England.

And, frankly, it is just plain silly to spell the totally English term "Quebec City" as "Québec City".

Although the City and Province might have English versions of their names, other places like Colisée de Québec probably do not, so I have not reverted those back to the English spelling. Similarly, I am not aware if the official name of the franchise used an accent in both English and French, so I have left it as Québec Nordiques, and others more familiar with the team can deal with that particular issue. Skeezix1000 19:45, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Simple. In French, the name of the team was not "Québec Nordiques" at all, but the "Nordique". I'm quite comfy with the diacritical being left out here, however much I agree with its use in le Colisée, which I've never heard translated into English. RGTraynor 20:48, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually it was the "Nordiques" and never the "Nordique".^--Vince 13:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

  • Support move because the team's English name is Quebec Nordiques and the city's name in English and here on wikipedia is Quebec City (without diacritics). Adding a diacritic to Quebec here, but not at Quebec City doesn't make sense. It's simple, in English, there is no diacritic on the Quebec Nordiques, and wikipedia should reflect that. Masterhatch 05:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support, per Masterhatch.--Skeezix1000 13:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per Masterhatch. RGTraynor 16:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Result: page moved. Eugène van der Pijll 19:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

I went on google and typed in "Quebec Nordiques" -wikipedia to see what articles would show up and if they had diacritics in them or not. "Québec Nordiques" is no different than "Quebec Nordiques" when i tried both in google: they both came up with the same number of hits (309,000) and the same pages showed up. google search

google page one

google page two

The next four on page two do not have accents, but they are online shopping sites.

Discounting the french site that popped up in the google search, only two sites on the first two pages of google had accents. I also looked at some other, more reputable, sources online:

Wikipedia:Naming conventions is clear "Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." The majority of English speakers don't use a diacritic on Quebec and the English spelling of the city does not use an accent either. This proposed convention Wikipedia:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics) also supports not using diacritics in article titles unless it is most commonly written that way in English. Quebec Nordiques, not Québec Nordiques, is the most common way to write that name in English. Masterhatch 17:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Lindros edit

It was asserted today that Lindros said explicitly he didn't want to play in a "francophone environment." Now he certainly said he didn't want to play in Quebec, but I don't recall him ever saying the latter, and it isn't as if Lindros hadn't before pulled the "I don't want to play here" card ... unless someone is seriously suggesting that the Soo is a francophone environment. In any event, I slapped a citation tag on it; if someone doesn't come up with a source in a week, I'll revert the edit. RGTraynor 06:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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